In the Shadows of Utopia: The Khmer Rouge and the Cambodian Nightmare

Matthew Campbell, award-winning journalist for Bloomberg Businessweek and author of The Man Who Stole the Gods, joins Lachlan Peters to discuss Douglas Latchford, the extraordinary plunder of Cambodia’s ancient Khmer antiquities, and the international art market that helped move stolen treasures from Cambodian temples into private collections and some of the world’s leading museums.
The Man Who Stole the Gods: A True Story of War, Obsession, and the World’s Biggest Art Heist traces more than half a century of looting, smuggling and collecting. At the centre of the story is Douglas Latchford, a British-born antiquities dealer based in Bangkok who became one of the world’s best-known authorities on Khmer art while building an enormous collection of his own. In 2019, US prosecutors charged Latchford with trafficking looted Cambodian antiquities and using false provenance documents to disguise their origins. He died in 2020 before the case could go to trial.
Campbell’s investigation, based on years of reporting and more than 100 interviews, follows the story from Cambodia’s civil war and the Khmer Rouge era to Bangkok dealers, London auction houses, wealthy American collectors and institutions such as New York’s Metropolitan Museum of Art. It explores how masterpieces of the Khmer Empire were removed from archaeological sites, how questionable histories were created for them, and how Cambodia has spent decades trying to identify and recover its cultural heritage.
The consequences of that trade are still unfolding. In recent years, major collections of Khmer antiquities connected to Latchford have been returned to Cambodia, while the Metropolitan Museum of Art agreed to repatriate fourteen sculptures to Cambodia and two to Thailand associated with him. In 2023, US authorities also reached a $12 million forfeiture settlement involving proceeds from Latchford’s antiquities sales.
In this interview, Lachlan and Matthew discuss Douglas Latchford’s remarkable life, the destruction and dispersal of Cambodia’s archaeological heritage during decades of war, the mechanics of the international antiquities trade, the collectors and museums that bought Khmer masterpieces, and the ongoing effort to bring Cambodia’s stolen gods home.

In early 1973, Norodom Sihanouk travelled down the Ho Chi Minh trail and back onto Cambodian soil for the first time since the coup. China Pictorial published a special issue of photographs to prove it. In the background of several of them stand men the prince had been told not to name.
Time Period Covered: January to August 1973

How much did Sihanouk know about the Khmer Rouge he was selling to the world? Why did the Paris Peace Accords bring peace to Vietnam but not Cambodia? What happened when the prince returned to Cambodian soil for the first time since the coup?
In this episode, Lachlan begins a three-part exploration of one of the most important and brutal years of the Cambodian Civil War -- through the eyes of its top billing star, Prince Norodom Sihanouk. Deposed, exiled, and installed in Beijing, the prince has become the face of a resistance movement that privately despises him -- and 1973 sees him wheeled out like never before.
Three primary sources track the prince across these six months. His propaganda memoir, My War with the CIA, written with the infamous Wilfred Burchett, sells a rosy vision of the National Front's future Cambodia to a western audience -- one with no mention of the communists actually running the show. A special issue of China Pictorial documents his secret journey down the Ho Chi Minh trail and back into the liberated zones -- where the real power stands quietly in the background of the photographs. And a remarkable interview with the legendary Oriana Fallaci, in which the script falls away, and the prince says things you would not expect a man in his position to ever admit.
Meanwhile, the ceasefire that was supposed to follow the Paris Peace Accords is dead on arrival in Cambodia, the Khmer Rouge refuse to stop a war they are winning, and the American bombing builds toward its final crescendo.
Sources:
Norodom Sihanouk & Wilfred Burchett -My War with the CIA
China Pictorial 1973 -Samdech Sihanouk's Inspection Tour of the Cambodian Liberated Zone
Oriana Fallaci -Interview with Sihanouk, New York Times 1973
Norodom Sihanouk -Prisoner of the Khmer Rouge
Philip Short -Pol Pot: Anatomy of a Nightmare
Milton Osbourne - Sihanouk
David Chandler -Tragedy of Cambodian History
Ben Kiernan -How Pol Pot Came to Power
New York Times Book Review -James C. Thomson Jr., "Prince of Peace" 1973

At the beginning of 1972, Khmer Rouge and Vietnamese forces fought each other in the temple complex at Angkor. In Phnom Penh, a city swollen with refugees and rocked by bombings, the radios played Sinn Sisamouth and Ros Serey Sothea. It was the peak of Cambodia's golden age of music, and it had three years left.
Time Period Covered: 1972

How did a golden age of music emerge during the Cambodian Civil War? How did Lon Nol survive the fallout of Chenla II? What did the clashes between communists and government produce around Angkor?
In this episode, Lachlan returns to the view from Phnom Penh as the Cambodian Civil War truly begins to live up to its name. The Khmer Rouge had amassed tens of thousands of troops and were challenging not only Lon Nol's struggling regime, but also their Vietnamese comrades in arms. Most notably, at Angkor -- where fighting will erupt around the temple complex at the beginning of the year.
Meanwhile while the government lost more control of the countryside, Lon Nol continued to consolidate his own power. Sidelining much more capable politicians, while the United States stood idly by as his dastardly little brother, Lon Non, used violent and grubby means of propping up the new president - and his own position.
The refugee crisis in Phnom Penh continues, and Lachlan looks into the different stories of individuals effected by the war who fled to the capital.
And, the backdrop to all of this chaos? Cambodia's golden age of rock & roll.
Dont forget to check out the complete history of Angkor on YouTube.
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Sources:
Wilfred Deac -The Road to the Killing Fields
Sutsakhan -The Khmer Republic at War
David Chandler -Tragedy of Cambodian History
Shawcross -Sideshow
New York Times -Various Reporting 1972
Craig Etcheson -The Rise and Demise of Democratic Kampuchea
Oral History Project -Brigham Young College
Haing Ngor -A Cambodian Odyssey
Jim Laurie -Last Helicopter
Dee Peyok -Away from Beloved Lover
New Cambodia Magazine 1972 -various issues

Finished up a complete re-do of the Angkor episodes into a new three part series. Here to clear up whats going on with that - easiest thing is to watch the full thing on YouTube, or go back to season one and listen to parts 1-3.
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In February 1972 Richard Nixon flew to Beijing to shake Mao's hand. In May he went to Moscow. In between, North Vietnam launched the largest conventional offensive of the war and American bombers returned in force. All of it, in one way or another, was about how to leave Vietnam without appearing to lose it.
Time Period Covered: 1971 to 1973

How do you get out of a war without losing it? What did Nixon's opening to China have to do with Vietnam? And how much of 'peace' in 1972 was about diplomacy, and how much was about the election?
In this episode, Lachlan examines the pivotal year of 1972. North Vietnam launches the Spring Offensive, the largest conventional campaign of the war, while American air power returns on a massive scale. At the same time, Nixon travels to Beijing and Moscow, reshaping the Cold War balance and strengthening his position at home.
Behind the scenes, Henry Kissinger conducts secret negotiations in Paris. The Oval Office tapes reveal a colder logic: South Vietnam may not survive indefinitely, but if it lasts long enough, the United States can leave on its own terms. Cambodia, meanwhile, remains entangled in bombing, secrecy, and executive overreach, part of the same governing culture that produces Watergate.
By January 1973, the Paris Peace Accords are signed. American prisoners are coming home. Nixon has won a landslide re-election on promises of peace.
But the settlement leaves North Vietnamese troops in the South, freezes the battlefield in place, and offers no real solution for Cambodia.
The war, in other words, is ending. Just not for everyone.
Sources:
Short Mao: The Man Who Built China
Hastings Vietnam: An Epic Tragedy
Miller The Vietnam War: A Documentary Reader
Various Recordings: Nixon Whitehouse 1971-2
Shawcross Sideshow