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Andrea Samadi
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  • John Medina's Brain Rules Revisited: How Neuroscience Can Transform Classrooms and Workplaces of the Future
    Episode 370 reviews Dr. John Medina's insights from Brain Rules and explores how neuroscience and social-emotional learning combine to improve teaching, learning, and well-being. Key takeaways: teachers need basic neuroscience to support learning; the emotional stability of the home strongly shapes a child’s resilience and confidence; and children build resilience when adults co-regulate and model healthy emotion management during high-emotion moments. This short review highlights practical steps for educators, parents, and leaders to apply brain-based strategies and SEL to boost student outcomes and lifelong skills. EP 370 covers a review of Dr. John Medina's Brain Rules, from EP 42 (February 2020)  We learned: ✔ If education is about the brain, then teachers need to understand how the brain learns best. ✔ A child’s resilience and confidence are deeply tied to the emotional climate of the home. ✔  Children build resilience not in calm moments, but in how parents (or caregivers) respond when emotions run high. Welcome back to SEASON 14 of The Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast, where we connect the science-based evidence behind social and emotional learning and emotional intelligence training for improved well-being, achievement, productivity and results—using what I saw as the missing link (since we weren’t taught this when we were growing up in school), the application of practical neuroscience. I’m Andrea Samadi, and seven years ago, launched this podcast with a question I had never truly asked myself before: (and that is) If productivity and results matter to us—and they do now more than ever—how exactly are we using our brain to make them happen? Most of us were never taught how to apply neuroscience to improve productivity, results, or well-being. About a decade ago, I became fascinated by the mind-brain-results connection—and how science can be applied to our everyday lives. That’s why I’ve made it my mission to bring you the world’s top experts—so together, we can explore the intersection of science and social-emotional learning. We’ll break down complex ideas and turn them into practical strategies we can use every day for predictable, science-backed results. Episode 370: Brain Rules and the Future of Learning For today’s Episode 370[i], we continue our journey into the mind with our next interview review—Dr. John Medina, author of the well-known book Brain Rules. We first featured Dr. Medina in EP 42, when we explored “Implementing Brain Rules in Schools and Workplaces of the Future.” To remind you where we began with our interview review series: We opened with EP 366[ii], diving into speaker Bob Proctor’s timeless principles. Bob was the very first person—over 25 years ago—who challenged me with the question, “What do you really want to do with your life?” At the time, I didn’t have a clear answer. It’s taken well over 25 years now for this clarity to evolve. Eventually, I realized what mattered most to me: and that was bringing social and emotional learning (SEL) skills into schools. I had already seen how these skills—once called “soft skills”—transformed the lives of 12 teenagers I worked with in the motivational speaking industry in the late 1990s. Later, I watched as SEL spread into schools across states and countries, until the research became undeniable. A 2011 meta-analysis of 213 studies confirmed what I had seen firsthand a decade before this study was released: students who participated in SEL programs showed an 11-percentile-point increase in academic performance[iii] compared to control groups. That’s a significant improvement, demonstrating just how powerful SEL can be. Long before this research, I simply knew these skills could shape the future of the next generation. This podcast itself was built around the six core SEL competencies—each explored in its own dedicated episode that you can find in our resource section in the show notes. Then came the next step: adding the lens of neuroscience. I realized that everything we were studying in SEL connected back to how the brain works. My deep dive into what I called “Neuroscience 101” began when an educator handed me a stack of books that opened my eyes to the importance of brain science in education. From those early hand-drawn sketches grew the framework that still guides this podcast today—bridging SEL and neuroscience to make learning both practical and powerful.   Which brings us to today’s review: Episode 370, where we revisit Dr. John Medina. At the heart of this conversation is the very question that launched my journey years ago: What happens when we connect social and emotional learning with neuroscience? How can understanding the brain not only improve results and productivity, but also better equip our next generation of students in the classroom? It was John Medina’s Brain Rules that first landed on my bookshelf back in 2009. And to be honest—it just sat there for a while. I wasn’t ready yet. As Dr. Medina himself has said, this kind of learning can’t be forced. You need a strong why to really dive into the mind–brain connection. For me, that why came later, when I realized how deeply understanding the brain could impact learning, teaching, and even life itself. If you’re following along with this podcast, I imagine you’ve had a similar moment—when the connection between the brain and practical neuroscience suddenly made sense and became something worth pursuing. I’m always curious about what that moment looks like for others—what it is that makes this topic click. For me, it became clear during my very first presentation on this subject in November 2017, at a conference for the York Region School District in Toronto. The topic I was in charge of presenting was Stress, Learning, and the Brain, and the room was so full it was standing room only. This was after just three years of studying the topic myself, and when I first opened up David Souza’s How the Brain Learns Series, I honestly thought this topic was over my head, and too difficult for me to understand, let alone having me teach it to others. But once there is a strong why, the way will be shown. And that day, when I saw how many people showed up to learn the topic, I knew this was the field I wanted to dedicate the rest of my life to—continuing to learn, and helping others understand and apply to their lives. VIDEO 1 Click Here to Watch Now that you know where this mind-brain connection began for me, I hope you can gain clarity with why it’s so important to you. Important enough that you are tuning into this podcast to learn more. Wouldn’t you know it—understanding this WHY with the brain-mind connection to thrive at home, work and school and with sport is exactly what Dr. John Medina said to me during our interview back in February 2020. If you click the link in the show notes, you can watch VIDEO 1, where he explains: “I believe that the cognitive neurosciences should be at the table of education training. Before you get a Bachelor Degree in Education, you have to have a fair degree of neuroscience. And it’s a very specific slice—it’s the kind of neuroscience that says: this is what we know about how the brain learns. Because teachers are in charge of that. It blows me away sometimes—I look at the Colleges of Education: if you’re in the Geology Department, you study rocks. If you go to Medical School, you study humans. You could argue that the world of education is all about studying the brain. Where are the courses that say—‘This is how memory works. This is how we get someone to pay attention. This is what visual processing looks like.’” Dr. Medina is 100% right. When I went through teacher training at The University of Toronto, courses like this weren’t offered. Fast forward to today, and my daily work now focuses on supporting educators with the Science of Reading—a body of research that, much like SEL, took decades to gain traction but is finally reshaping classrooms and teacher training, impacting how we teach our next generation of students to read. Of course, this knowledge can’t just be forced on us. It’s not easy material—it requires effort to learn. But if you’re listening to this podcast each week, it’s because you’re curious. You’re willing to dig into concepts that, until recently, were reserved for medical students. That’s how Dr. Douglas Fisher gained his insights into how the brain learns best. As he told me in EP 161[iv], How Learning Works: Translating the Science of Learning into Strategies for Maximum Learning in Your Classroom, he actually sat in classes with medical students to develop a deeper understanding of brain-based learning—knowledge we were never given in traditional teacher training. Key Point from Video Clip 1 from John Medina 💡 If education is about the brain, then teachers need to understand how the brain learns best. Tip #1 – Practical Application: Look for opportunities—whether through professional learning, books, or resources like this podcast—to bridge the gap between neuroscience and classroom practice. Even small shifts, like applying what we know about memory or attention, can transform how students learn. Don’t let the complexity of the human brain intimidate you, like it did me when I first saw Dr. David Souza’s books. Once you can make this mind-brain-learning connection, you’ll see that it was all worth the effort to learn and understand. VIDEO 2 Click Here to Watch Moving on to our second interview clip (linked in the show notes), I asked Dr. Medina a powerful question: “How can we raise our children to be confident and resilient?” His response was both profound and eye-opening: He said: “I believe that the single greatest predictor of a child’s psychopathology or psychiatric condition is the emotional stability of the home in which they are raised. It automatically becomes an education issue, even if you don’t want it to be. Because I realize that the interpersonal dynamics inside some of these homes is usually nobody’s business—except when the kid gets nicked. And then it might be important to understand, and perhaps teach adults, how to be adults in front of their children. We know a fair amount about what it takes to create stable, emotional homes. Let’s say there’s a partner involved. The great work of John Gottman is so strong, he can actually predict divorce rates.” Key Point from Video Clip 2 from John Medina: 💡A child’s resilience and confidence are deeply tied to the emotional climate of the home. Stability in relationships, especially between parents or caregivers, creates the foundation for healthy development. Practical Application: For parents and caregivers: Focus on modeling emotional regulation and respectful communication at home. Children learn resilience not from being shielded from challenges, but by watching adults navigate them with stability. For educators: Understand that a student’s academic and social behavior often reflects what’s happening at home. Approaching challenges with empathy—and building strong, safe classroom relationships—can help buffer instability. For leaders and mentors: Whether in schools, workplaces, or communities, promoting emotional intelligence and modeling healthy relationships can positively influence not only children, but the adults raising them. VIDEO 3 Click Here to Watch To go deeper into my question about raising emotionally resilient children, Dr. Medina pointed to the work of Diana Baumrind, whose research he described as “probably the most important work about how to raise a child that exists.” She showed that creating an emotionally stable environment can directly influence anxiety and depression rates in children. Dr. Medina added that John Gottman—known for his research on marriage—also studied parenting. Both Baumrind and Gottman came to the same conclusion: “All parenting rises and falls on the same battlefield, and that’s what you do when your child’s emotions run hot. What you do here puts you in a behavioral category—some kind of parenting style.” Key Point from Video Clip 3 from John Medina: 💡 Children build resilience not in calm moments, but in how parents (or caregivers) respond when emotions run high. These moments define parenting style and shape a child’s long-term emotional health. Practical Application: When your child is upset, instead of reacting with anger or dismissal, focus on co-regulation—help them name and navigate their feelings. Practice emotion coaching (a Gottman strategy): acknowledge the emotion, set boundaries if needed, and guide the child toward healthy expression. Remember: resilience grows when children see that emotions—even big ones—can be understood, managed, and resolved with stability.   These strategies tie back into our 6 social and emotional learning solo episodes that I’ve linked in the show notes, as well as with Greg Wolcott from EP 7[v] on “Building Relationships in Today’s Classrooms” or Yale Center for Emotional Intelligence’s Founder Marc Brackett’s work from EP 19[vi] on his book Permission to Feel. As we continue with this review, I’m hoping that we strengthen the WHY behind our own work whether we are teachers in the classroom, coaches, or regular people like me who want take this mind-brain connection to improve our results to greater heights. REVIEW and CONCLUSION As we wrap up Episode 370, it’s clear that Dr. John Medina’s call to bring neuroscience to the table of education is more important now than ever. We began this journey with Bob Proctor’s timeless question, “What do you really want?”—and for me, that answer was always rooted in seeing social and emotional learning become a foundation in our schools. Over the years, research confirmed what I witnessed firsthand: SEL transforms lives. But when we add the powerful lens of neuroscience, we gain the practical tools to understand how the brain learns best—knowledge that can improve results, productivity, and most importantly, support our next generation of students. In today’s EP we reviewed 3 VIDEO CLIPS Key Point 1: 💡 If education is about the brain, then teachers need to understand how the brain learns best. Tip #1 – Practical Application: Look for opportunities—whether through professional learning, books, or resources like this podcast—to bridge the gap between neuroscience and classroom practice. Even small shifts, like applying what we know about memory or attention, can transform how students learn. Key Point 2: A child’s resilience and confidence are deeply tied to the emotional climate of the home. Stability in relationships, especially between parents or caregivers, creates the foundation for healthy development. Practical Application: For parents and caregivers: Focus on modeling emotional regulation and respectful communication at home. Children learn resilience not from being shielded from challenges, but by watching adults navigate them with stability. Key Point 3: Children build resilience not in calm moments, but in how parents (or caregivers, or even teachers) respond when emotions run high. These moments define our parenting (and teaching) style and shape a child’s long-term emotional health. Practical Application: When your child is upset, instead of reacting with anger or dismissal, focus on co-regulation—help them name and navigate their feelings. This is especially important whether we are a parent, or working with students in the classroom. Dr. Medina’s Brain Rules was a pivotal book for me—it helped me understand how the brain learns best, while also reinforcing the importance of self-regulation. And as we explored last week with Dr. Dawson Church and his Bliss Brain meditations, self-regulation becomes much more accessible when we actively train our brain through practices like meditation. Each of these interviews connects and builds on the other, guiding us step by step on this Journey of the Mind. We’ll continue exploring this powerful intersection of social and emotional learning and neuroscience, bringing forward leading experts so that together we can learn and apply insights that were once reserved only for medical students. This is how we equip ourselves—and the next generation—to thrive not only in learning, but also in life. With that thought, thank you for joining me for Episode 370. I’ll see you next week as we move on to our next expert interview review. Have a wonderful week ahead.   RESOURCES:   Watch FULL Interview with John Medina https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFzg5nQnEMs   YouTube Short 1 https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dZg4PEAVcdE   YouTube Short 2 https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YHdLlHtjBfo   YouTube Short 3 https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vdiOCZWWvuc   Solo Episodes on the 6 SEL Competencies   Self-Awareness: Know Thyself https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/self-awareness-know-thyself/   Social-Awareness: How to Change Your Social Brain https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/social-awareness-looking-beyond-yourself-to-connect-with-others/   Developing Effective Relationships https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/how-to-build-and-sustain-effective-relationships/   Responsible Decision-Making https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/responsible-decision-making-begins-with-brain-health/   Self-Regulation: The Foundational Learning Skill for Future Success https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/self-regulation-the-foundational-learning-skill-for-future-success/   Coaching a Growth Mindset https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/coaching-a-growth-mindset-strategies-for-overcoming-obstacles-and-cognitive-biases/   REFERENCES:   [i] Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE 42 with Dr. John Medina on “Implementing Brain Rules in Schools and Workplaces of the Future” https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/dr-john-medina-on-implementing-brain-rules-in-the-schools-and-workplaces-of-the-future/   [ii]Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE 366 REVIEW PART 1: Unlocking Your Potential: Refining Goals with Bob Proctor’s Wisdom  https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/unlocking-your-potential-redefining-goals-with-bob-proctors-wisdom/   [iii] www.casel.org   [iv] Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE161 “How Learning Works: Translating the Science of Learning into Strategies for Maximum Learning in Your Classroom”  https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/johnalmarodedouglas-fisherand-nancyfreyon-how-learning-works-translatingthescience-oflearningintostrategiesformaximum-learning-inyourclassroom/   [v] Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE 7 with Greg Wolcott on “Building Relationships in Today’s Classrooms” https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/greg-wolcott-on-building-relationships-in-todays-classrooms/   [vi]Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE 19 with Marc Brackett on “Permission to Feel” https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/founding-director-of-the-yale-center-of-emotional-intelligence-on-his-new-book-permission-to-feel/  
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  • Revisiting Bliss Brain with Dr. Dawson Church: How to Rewire Your Brain in Minutes a Day
    In this episode Andrea Samadi revisits a popular interview with Dr. Dawson Church about his book Bliss Brain and the neuroscience of meditation. They explore how simple, evidence-based practices can quiet the brain's default mode, trigger blissful neurochemicals, and reshape stress and happiness networks. Listeners learn why happiness must be trained, how meditation helps people live more in the present, and practical tips to start a daily meditation practice using guided tools like the free Bliss Brain meditations. Welcome back to SEASON 14 of The Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast, where we connect the science-based evidence behind social and emotional learning and emotional intelligence training for improved well-being, achievement, productivity and results—using what I saw as the missing link (since we weren’t taught this when we were growing up in school), the application of practical neuroscience. I’m Andrea Samadi, and seven years ago, launched this podcast with a question I had never truly asked myself before: (and that is) If productivity and results matter to us—and they do now more than ever—how exactly are we using our brain to make them happen? Most of us were never taught how to apply neuroscience to improve productivity, results, or well-being. About a decade ago, I became fascinated by the mind-brain-results connection—and how science can be applied to our everyday lives. That’s why I’ve made it my mission to bring you the world’s top experts—so together, we can explore the intersection of science and social-emotional learning. We’ll break down complex ideas and turn them into practical strategies we can use every day for predictable, science-backed results. For today’s Episode 369, we are moving forward on our journey of the mind, to our next interview review, with our goal of building off of our past reviews, and sharpening our saw for improved well-being, productivity and success in 2025 and beyond. To review our last 3 episodes, with our interview with speaker Bob Proctor, we learned that “If we want to improve our RESULTS, we must focus on the six faculties of our mind—reason, intuition, perception, will, memory, and imagination.” “Devoting a year to developing each one would be time well invested, elevating us to greater heights and setting us apart from others.” Next, we looked at how we need to become extremely clear with our vision of “what we really want” and keep in mind that…. Our External Environment Reflects Our Internal World What exactly does this mean? It means that if we don’t like what’s happening in our external world—whether it’s in our job, relationships, results, or any area of our life—we must first look inward. Our circumstances mirror the beliefs and thoughts we hold within. As James Allen reminds us in As a Man Thinketh: our outer world is always a reflection of our inner state. For today’s Episode 369, we’ll turn inward—sharpening our inner world so that we can transform the outer one. Today we go back EP 98[i] our interview with Dr. Dawson Church, that was recorded back in December of 2020, where we looked at the science behind implementing meditation into your daily routine. This interview is currently our most watched YouTube interview with over 11K views. This week, in our review of EP 98 with Dr. Dawson Church and his book Bliss Brain, we will explore how meditation can rewire the brain for happiness and presence. We will learn: ✔ Since happiness didn’t evolve naturally, we must train our brain to achieve it. ✔ Our brains default to the past or future, constantly scanning for threats, instead of resting in the present moment. ✔ Extreme states of happiness are possible for all of us when we implement meditation consistently. ✔ How to commit to a daily meditation practice using the free meditations that come with Bliss Brain, or explore other guided programs until you find one that resonates with you Just a reminder-Dr. Church is the author of the book called Bliss Brain: The Neuroscience of Remodeling Your Brain for Resilience, Creativity and Joy.[ii] He’s an award-winning science writer who blends cutting-edge neuroscience with the stories of people who’ve had firsthand experience of brain change. Neural plasticity—the discovery that the brain is capable of rewiring itself—is now widely understood. But what few people have grasped yet is how quickly this is happening, how extensive brain changes can be, and how much control each of us exerts over the process of our thinking. It’s been almost 5 years since this interview, and it feels like yesterday to me. I remember at the time, one of my dogs was barking in the yard when the landscapers came, and I was worried it would distract our interview. It didn’t. I don’t even think Dr. Church could hear them. There were also two other things that stuck out in my head from this interview (other than the fact I was wearing glasses trying to prepare for Lasik surgery and couldn’t really see the questions) but I’ll also never forget that American entrepreneur and biohacker Dave Asprey, who’s well known for his interest in helping others achieve these elevated brain states, wrote the Foreword to his book. I also won’t ever forget Chapter 1, of Bliss Brain, where Dr. Church shares how he and his wife lost their home and pets in the 2017 Santa Rose Fire, yet they chose to focus on gratitude and rebuilding their lives with joy. This story highlights his teaching that even trained minds struggle under pressure, but with meditation and practice, we can shift into a bliss or flow state. Church’s EcoMeditation method, (that he covers in his book) supported by science and praised by Dave Asprey in the Foreword, helps quiet the brain’s Default Mode Network[iii] and quickly releases calming, pleasurable chemicals—in as little as four minutes. Dr. Church has a strong following, and there are many powerful testimonials at the start of his book. One we spoke about in our interview was from Toni Tombleson who wrote: After a week of putting out a handful of mini-fires that often accompany the start of a new school year in my world, I can see why these lessons to handling both major life crises and everyday challenges, by learning to cultivate a “Bliss Brain” should remain a top priority for resilience, productivity, and well-being, for all of us. VIDEO 1 Click Here to Watch Which brings me to Video Clip 1 of our review. Watch video clip 1 with the link in the show notes. Historical Context: Dr. Church begins by reflecting on The Buddha, who over 2,000 years ago sought to relieve human suffering. He also reviews other spiritual teachers, including Plato, who grappled with the same question. Biological Explanation: Dr. Church emphasizes that suffering is a biological problem, a feature of how the human brain evolved. How our lives have become easier than they were 2,000 years ago. He explained to me how people are 3x as wealthy now, than they were 40 years ago. In terms of longevity, our lifespans have doubled in the last century. There are many markers like this that show us that we live in a much more secure and safe world than we used to. Key Point: While we live in a safer environment today, than 2,000 years ago, our brains were not designed for where we are today. We are not suffering he reminded me because we are bad people, we lack will, or haven’t read enough personal growth books… “We simply didn’t evolve to be happy because there was no survival benefit in being happy.”  Tip #1: Since happiness didn’t evolve naturally, it’s something we must train our brain to achieve. Practical Application: This is the basis of his book Bliss Brain, where he explains how meditation helps us train the brain to reach a bliss or flow state. It’s in his book that we learn how to achieve this state that will change not only our brain, (our internal state) but our outer results in our everyday lives. In Chapter 2, he shows us why most people find it so hard to meditate. The difficulty has nothing to do with willpower or intention. It’s simply due to the design of the human brain. When you understand this clearly, you’ll be equipped to work around it. Chapter 3 describes the ecstatic states that you can achieve in meditation. He examines the regions of the brain that you activate, and what each one does. He also lists the extensive health and cognitive benefits that you get from activating each of those regions. In Chapter 4 you’ll hear the story of his own personal failed meditation experiences. He learned many different styles of meditation, but could never establish a consistent practice. His breakthrough came from science. When he combined seven simple evidence-based practices together, found a formula that puts people into deep states automatically and involuntarily. No effort required. When he and his colleagues hook people up to EEGs and MRIs, they find that using these seven steps, even non-meditators get into profound states in less than 4 minutes. Sometimes in less than 50 seconds. Historically, the secrets of these states have been available to only about 1% of the population. Thanks to science, they’re now available to everyone. Chapter 5 he goes into the seven neurochemicals of ecstasy. We learn how each one is like a drug that makes you feel good. But combine all seven together, and you have a potent formula that takes your brain into bliss. Meditation is the only way you get all seven at one time. The star of the show is a neurotransmitter called anandamide, aka “the bliss molecule.” When you trigger these ecstatic states daily, they change your brain. Chapter 6 is about the extensive brain remodeling that occurs in seasoned meditators. Stress circuits shrink, while happiness networks grow. But you don’t need to be an adept to trigger this rewiring. It begins the very first week you meditate effectively. Chapter 7 is about post-traumatic growth, and how the brains of meditators make them resilient to the inevitable upsets of life. Medical crises and financial disasters included. It provides practical examples of how meditation can make you resilient even during global upheavals like the coronavirus panic that was happening at the time of this interview. Whatever challenges confront us, we will be well equipped to handle large and small life challenges. If we truly want to find happiness, then we will need to rewire our brain to accomplish these states. VIDEO 2 Click Here to Watch Watch video clip 2 with the link in the show notes. Question asked: “How can we learn to be more in the present moment, instead of somewhere else?” Dr. Church’s explanation: The brain is hardwired to identify threats for survival. Today, most of us don’t face immediate threats, but the brain’s Default Mode Network (DMN) keeps scanning for danger. Without real threats, it replays past negative experiences (even from years ago or childhood) and projects fear into the future (“what if it happens again?”). This keeps us stuck in the past and future, not the present moment. Monks & meditation: Monks, after years of deep meditation, trained their brains differently. Brain scans showed structural changes—the brain literally began to shrink in areas related to stress and overthinking. Key Point: Our brains are not naturally wired to live in the present moment—they default to the past or future, scanning for threats. Tip #2: Get serious about meditation. Example: Australian astrophysicist & TV journalist Graham Phillips remodeled his brain in just 8 weeks of meditation practice. VIDEO 3 Click Here to Watch Watch video clip 3 with the link in the show notes. In this clip, Dr. Church explains how “meditation changes everything” and why “20 years ago, he decided to make this commitment to daily meditation” sharing how his whole world changed after this. These are noticeable changes that were behind his motivation to write this book, Bliss Brain, to show the world how they too can reach these states of extreme happiness. He told us to go back and study historical figures who were clearly in altered states of being, like the Italian Catholic Preacher, Saint Francis of Assisi, who appears in a blissed-out state as we see in a drawing, where it looks like he is communicating with God or something divine. This beautiful blissful state, that goes beyond happiness, is available to all of us. We will cover more about the changes our brains undergo with meditation as we go back to review our interview #28 with clinical professor of psychiatry from the UCLA school of medicine, Dr. Dan Siegel[iv], on a later episode, but for now, we can conclude that we can in fact change our outside world, in a significant and powerful way, by dedicating ourselves to a daily meditation practice. Key Point: We can ALL reach this state of extreme happiness by implementing a daily meditation practice. Tip 3: We can get started with our own meditation practice (if we are not currently implementing one) by using the FREE mediations that come along with the Bliss Brain Book Or use whatever meditation program resonates with you. REVIEW AND CONCLUSION Episode 369 Wrap-Up: Bliss Brain Review with Dr. Dawson Church This week, in our review of EP 98 with Dr. Dawson Church and his book Bliss Brain, we explored how meditation can rewire the brain for happiness and presence. Key Point from Clip 1: Although we live in a safer world than 2,000 years ago, our brains weren’t designed for today’s environment. “We simply didn’t evolve to be happy because there was no survival benefit in being happy.” Tip #1: Since happiness didn’t evolve naturally, we must train our brain to achieve it. Key Point from Clip 2: Our brains default to the past or future, constantly scanning for threats, instead of resting in the present moment. Tip #2: Commit to meditation—like astrophysicist and TV journalist Graham Phillips, who saw powerful changes after just 8 weeks of his daily practice that helped him to focus in the present moment. Key Point from Clip 3: Extreme states of happiness are possible for all of us when we implement meditation consistently. Tip #3: Start small. Use the free meditations that come with Bliss Brain, or explore other guided programs until you find one that resonates with you I highly recommend watching the full interview with Dr. Church[v]—especially if you’ve struggled to stay consistent with your own practice. Even Dr. Church himself shares moments where he lost momentum, which is a reminder that this is a journey for all of us. Personally, I’ve cycled through different meditation programs—starting with John Assaraf’s work, then moving on to Dr. Dan Siegel’s Wheel of Awareness, using Dr. Church’s Bliss Brain meditations, and now practicing Dr. Joe Dispenza’s chakra-focused work. The program you choose matters less than your ability to make it a consistent daily practice—that’s when the real brain changes occur. We’ll see you next week as we continue exploring the Journey of the Mind, working on connecting practical science to improve our inner and outer world. See you next week!   RESOURCES: VIDEO CLIP 1 https://www.youtube.com/shorts/DkeDGwbShwU VIDEO CLIP 2 https://www.youtube.com/shorts/a5O3eI7qKro VIDEO CLIP 3 https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Zatnfj4MPok FREE ACCESS TO BLISS BRAIN RESOURCES, MEDITATIONS https://blissbrainbook.com/ REFERENCES: [i]Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE 98 “Dr. Dawson Church: The Science Behind Using a Meditation: Rewiring Your Brain for Happiness, Resilience, and Joy”  https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/dr-dawson-church-on-the-science-behind-using-meditation-rewiring-your-brain-for-happiness-resilience-and-joy/     [ii] FREE ACCESS TO BLISS BRAIN RESOURCES, MEDITATIONS https://blissbrainbook.com/     [iii] Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE 204 “The Neuroscience of Happiness”  https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/brain-fact-friday-on-the-neuroscience-of-happiness/   [iv]Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE 28 with Dr. Daniel Siegel on “Mindsight: The Basis for Social and Emotional Intelligenvce”  https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/clinical-professor-of-psychiatry-at-the-ucla-school-of-medicine-dr-daniel-siegel-on-mindsight-the-basis-for-social-and-emotional-intelligence/   [v] YouTube Interview with Andrea Samadi and Dr. Dawson Church https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH8yVKHjFN4  
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  • Elevating Your Frequency: How Bob Proctor Taught The Science of Goal Attainment - PART 3
    In this Season 14 review (Episode 368), Andrea Samadi revisits key clips from her original interview with Bob Proctor (Episode 66), exploring how frequencies, imagination, and intuition shape our goals and results. We will cover:  Tip #1: How to Understand Frequencies and Levels of Vibration Tip #2: You’ve Got to Follow Your Heart Tip #3: Your External Environment Reflects Your Internal Thoughts and Mental State   Three takeaways: use your imagination to move to the vibration of your goal; follow your heart as an inner compass; and remember your external environment reflects your internal thoughts and beliefs. Welcome back to SEASON 14 of The Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast, where we connect the science-based evidence behind social and emotional learning and emotional intelligence training for improved well-being, achievement, productivity and results—using what I saw as the missing link (since we weren’t taught this when we were growing up in school), the application of practical neuroscience. I’m Andrea Samadi, and seven years ago, launched this podcast with a question I had never truly asked myself before: (and that is) If productivity and results matter to us—and they do now more than ever—how exactly are we using our brain to make them happen? Most of us were never taught how to apply neuroscience to improve productivity, results, or well-being. About a decade ago, I became fascinated by the mind-brain-results connection—and how science can be applied to our everyday lives. That’s why I’ve made it my mission to bring you the world’s top experts—so together, we can explore the intersection of science and social-emotional learning. We’ll break down complex ideas and turn them into practical strategies we can use every day for predictable, science-backed results.   For today’s Episode 368, we’re going back to Episode 66[i]  for PART 3 of our review with the late Bob Proctor—the first person who challenged me to think. We covered in PART 1 EP 366[ii]: ✔ Top Lesson from Episode 66 – Where we refined the question: “What do you really want to do with your life?” hoping that midway through 2025, we can refine our goals, and see if we are on track. ✔ Sage Advice Tip #1: “We have been given the mental faculties to create our own environment. “We explored how to go beyond our five senses and tap into the six higher faculties of our mind (further developing our reason, intuition, perception, will, memory and imagination.” ✔ Sage Advice Tip #2: “There’s only one mind.” We looked at how our actions matter because we are all deeply connected. ✔ Sage Advice Tip#3: “We are a soul—we don’t have one.” We reflected on the perfection within each of us, and how this perfection continually drives us toward bigger and better possibilities. We covered in PART 2 EP 367[iii]: Sage Tip #4: “If we want to improve our RESULTS, we must focus on the six faculties of our mind—reason, intuition, perception, will, memory, and imagination.”The key is to choose one of these faculties and dedicate time to studying and applying each one until you see real results from your deeper understanding. Sage Tip #5: “Goals are not set to get; they are set to grow.” Reminding us that sometimes goals don’t unfold the way we expect, and that’s okay—as long as we keep moving forward and growing. To do this, we must keep studying, learning about ourselves, clarifying what we truly want, and seeking specialized knowledge in our field from those who have gone before us. Today, EP 368, PART 3 VIDEO 1 Click Here to Watch Watch video clip 1 with the link in the show notes. Bob begins this clip by talking about The Law of Vibration and why it’s so important to understand how frequencies work. Many of us have heard of this law by now, especially since the movie, The Secret by Rhonda Byrne brought it into the mainstream. But my first introduction to understanding frequencies was back in the late 1990s, when I was teaching in the classroom and picked up Bob Proctor’s book You Were Born Rich.[iv] I still remember hiding the book behind my binder during a staff meeting at the Toronto District School Board—I couldn’t put it down until I’d finished it. That book changed the way I looked at everything. Suddenly, I began to see new possibilities in areas where I might have once been closed off. What captivated me wasn’t Chapter 1, Me and Money, or even Chapter 2, How Much is Enough. It wasn’t about money for me. What drew me in was Chapter 6—The Law of Vibration and Attraction. In that chapter, Bob shared what he had learned from the late Dr. Wernher von Braun, covering everything from science and religion, to the cosmos, to rates of vibration and frequency. That chapter expanded my mind—it even touched on the connection between the brain and body, a topic that would fascinate me even more 25 years later. It also revealed how powerful positive thinking can be for our health and wellness, while introducing the foundational Laws of Success. I wanted to learn more, so every time Bob held a seminar, I made sure to attend. From spending time in his offices, and sitting in these classes, I began to pick up how to promote these seminars to others, that started with bringing something new home to study each night. Eventually, I started talking to seminar attendees on the phone, explaining Bob’s upcoming seminars. On these calls, I discovered what other people were studying. They would ask me, “Who else are you learning from?” and at first, I honestly didn’t know anyone else teaching this material. But I listened carefully, wrote down the names they mentioned, and searched for their books at the library—this was long before we could just go online and find everything instantly. Sometimes people would drop off other programs for Bob to review. I remember one day, someone left a cassette tape set at the office and asked me to pass it along to him. Curious, I opened the package and saw the title: “Special Subjects Vol. 1”[v] by Abraham-Hicks, covering The Law of Attraction. I realized that, while not many people knew about this material, those who did were using it to achieve incredible things. On the way to Bob’s house that evening, I couldn’t resist. I slipped one of the tapes into my car stereo and listened as I drove. When Bob opened the door, the first thing he asked me was, “Did you listen to one of them?” I was stunned—how could he possibly know? I admitted I had and said, “Yes, and the program is really good.” I wasn’t sure if I’d get in trouble for listening first, but instead, he later handed the tapes over to me to keep. I must have listened to them more than 100 times. That program led me to Abraham-Hicks’ books, audio programs, and seminars—where I met people from all walks of life: pro athletes fine-tuning their mindset, business leaders sharpening their edge, and everyday people like me, hungry to learn and grow. Those cassette tapes opened a door. Each word studied brought me back to that time when I was just beginning to understand this material—discovering a whole world of wisdom waiting to be explored. I will be sure to link other places you can go to learn this topic, if you would like to dive deeper. What helped me the most, was when I saw an image describing these frequencies, or levels of vibration. We’ve looked at and explored this visual often on this podcast, that matches how Bob explains goals and frequency on the clip we selected. The image shows the Goal (target) at a higher level (the star), with lines representing different frequencies or levels of vibration. The word “DECISION” marks the point where you shift to a higher level to match the frequency of your goal. We learned in this clip that “when we image a goal, what we’ve done is take our mind off on a trip. And we’ve gone to a new frequency, beyond where we are living.” We learned that it is our imagination that moves us out of our current state of awareness (or vibration) using the “screen of our mind”—the place where we see and create new possibilities before they exist physically. This “place” isn’t physical. It’s the inner screen of our mind, the same concept explained in The Silva Method[vi], where you consciously project images, ideas, and goals in mental pictures. That’s where creation begins—before it’s expressed in the outside world. I’ve often wondered, “How exactly do we shift to a new level of vibration?” It’s not something that’s easy to explain until we’ve experienced it ourselves. Looking back, the path seems clear—just as Steve Jobs once said, “we can only connect the dots backwards.” But moving forward, the process feels less obvious. We move to a new vibration when we’re in harmony with what we truly want. A powerful example of this is being in love—when we resonate deeply with someone, we’re on the same frequency. At times, this connection runs so deep that we can almost sense each other’s thoughts (a kind of telepathic communication). When we share the same frequency, it feels like magic unfolds. The same principle applies to our goals. Once you’ve decided what you want—whether it’s a career change, a relationship, or a new opportunity—you must connect your heart to it. Feel the resonance, and then use your imagination to paint the picture on the screen of your mind. With practice, patience, and belief, you’ll one day look back and see there were no limits to what you could achieve. Until that moment comes, keep moving forward, keep growing, and keep reaching for the stars, moving up those levels of vibration or frequency. Sage Tip #1: How to Understand Frequencies and Levels of Vibration “When we image a goal (on the screen of our mind, something that we resonate with) we take our mind on a trip and what we’ve actually done is gone to a new frequency. We’ve used our imagination to get there.” If we can see it in our mind, with our imagination, we can hold it in our hand. VIDEO 2 Click Here to Watch Watch video clip 2 with the link in the show notes. There were two important lessons from this clip. Sage Tip #2: You’ve Got to Follow Your Heart. According to Bob, listening to your "heart" means trusting your intuition and emotional mind to connect with the divine side of yourself. He explained that this "heart" is not the physical organ but the subjective, feeling side of your mind that holds your deepest desires.  I remember after the interview, (back in June 2020) I wrote this on my wall, (you’ve got to follow your heart) and have used this as a sense of guidance ever since. We learned in this clip that “if you follow your heart you’ll never make a mistake, for as long as you live.” Do you listen to your heart? It’s this tip that brings us back to understanding frequencies, because when we are listening to our heart, we are paying attention to what we are in resonance with. Our deepest desires that will take us to whatever it is that we REALLY want to do with our life. All of these tips blend, and tie in together, like the colors of the rainbow. Sage Tip #3: Your External Environment Reflects Your Internal Thoughts and Mental State If we don’t like what’s happening in our external world—our job, our results, our relationships, or any part of our life we’ve created—we must first look within. Our outer circumstances mirror the thoughts and beliefs we hold inside. In As a Man Thinketh, James Allen reminds us of the power of our mindset: "Mind is the Master power that molds and makes, And Man is Mind, and evermore he takes The tool of Thought, and, shaping what he wills, Brings forth a thousand joys, a thousand ills— (depending on what we are thinking). He thinks in secret, and it comes to pass: Environment is but his looking-glass." The phrase “environment is but his looking-glass” means that your external environment is simply a reflection of your internal thoughts and mental state. The world you experience is showing you what’s happening in your mind. REVIEW AND CONCLUSION To wrap up this week’s Episode 368, PART 3—where we revisited two powerful clips from Episode 66, our interview with Bob Proctor—where we explored three key takeaways: Sage Tip #1: Understanding Frequencies and Levels of Vibration We discovered that there are infinite levels of vibration, and when we align ourselves with the frequency of what we truly want, magic happens. This is how we become one with our goal. There are no limits—only the challenge of using our imagination to bridge the gap between where we are now and where we want to be. Sage Tip #2: Follow Your Heart Listening to your heart means trusting your intuition and emotional guidance to connect with the divine side of yourself. Your heart can serve as a powerful compass to guide you toward the right decisions and opportunities in life. Sage Tip #3: Your External Environment Reflects Your Internal World If we don’t like what’s happening in our external world—whether it’s in our job, relationships, results, or any area of life—we must first look inward. Our circumstances mirror the beliefs and thoughts we hold within. As James Allen reminds us in As a Man Thinketh: our outer world is always a reflection of our inner state. With that thought, I will close out our 3 PART review of EP 66, and hope that calling out these tips that I thought were important will help us all to sharpen our saw, and find ways that we can all move confidently in the direction of whatever it is that we are working on this year, taking us to greater heights. I’ll see you next week as we revisit EP 98[vii] with Dr. Dawson Church, an award-winning science writer who blends cutting-edge neuroscience with inspiring stories of people who have experienced brain change firsthand. Neural plasticity—the discovery that the brain is capable of rewiring itself—is now widely accepted. What’s less understood is just how rapidly these changes can occur, how profound they can be, and the degree of control each of us has over reshaping our thinking. My goal is that we build on what we uncovered in our review of EP 66—refining the question of what it is we truly want—and then explore how to direct our thoughts inward to create lasting change with our goals and results. RESOURCES: How to Understand Frequencies, Vibration and The Law of Attraction with Bob Proctor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVJpEkbf8zc   YouTube Short 1 Andrea Samadi and Bob Proctor https://www.youtube.com/shorts/oUZOe7SH0ng   YouTube Short 2 Andrea Samadi and Bob Proctor https://www.youtube.com/shorts/oUZOe7SH0ng  REFERENCES:   [i] Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE #66 with The Legendary Bob Proctor  https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/the-legendary-bob-proctor-on/   [ii] Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE 366 Redefining Goals with Bob Proctor-PART 1https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/unlocking-your-potential-redefining-goals-with-bob-proctors-wisdom/   [iii]Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE 367 Perfecting The 6 Faculties of the Mind-PART 2  https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/reaching-your-full-potential-perfecting-the-6-faculties-of-your-mind-reasoning-intuition-perception-the-will-memory-and-imagination-part-2-review/   [iv] You Were Born Rich by Bob Proctor https://www.proctorgallagherinstitute.com/programs   [v] Special Subjects VOL 1 by Abraham Hicks https://www.abraham-hickslawofattraction.com/special-subjects-volume-one.html   [vi] Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast PART 1 of The Silva Mind Control Method https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/a-deep-dive-with-andrea-samadi-into-applying-the-silva-method-for-improved-intuition-creativity-and-focus-part-1/   [vii]Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast #98 with Dr. Dawson Church on the Science Behind Meditation https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/dr-dawson-church-on-the-science-behind-using-meditation-rewiring-your-brain-for-happiness-resilience-and-joy/  
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  • Understanding Your Six Higher Faculties — Lessons from Bob Proctor- PART 2
    Season 14, Episode 367 revisits Episode 66 with the late Bob Proctor, distilling two powerful clips about why people get stuck and how to move forward. Andrea Samadi connects Proctor’s timeless success principles — the six higher faculties of the mind (reason, intuition, perception, will, memory, imagination) and the idea that goals are set to grow — with modern neuroscience and practical steps for personal and professional growth. Brief, actionable takeaways: choose one mental faculty to develop at a time, embrace growth-focused goals even when outcomes change, and seek specialized knowledge to organize and direct learning into deliberate plans of action. Welcome back to SEASON 14 of The Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast, where we connect the science-based evidence behind social and emotional learning and emotional intelligence training for improved well-being, achievement, productivity and results—using what I saw as the missing link (since we weren’t taught this when we were growing up in school), the application of practical neuroscience. I’m Andrea Samadi, and seven years ago, launched this podcast with a question I had never truly asked myself before: (and that is) If productivity and results matter to us—and they do now more than ever—how exactly are we using our brain to make them happen? Most of us were never taught how to apply neuroscience to improve productivity, results, or well-being. About a decade ago, I became fascinated by the mind-brain-results connection—and how science can be applied to our everyday lives. That’s why I’ve made it my mission to bring you the world’s top experts—so together, we can explore the intersection of science and social-emotional learning. We’ll break down complex ideas and turn them into practical strategies we can use every day for predictable, science-backed results. As we kick off Season 14, I’ve been revisiting past episodes and reflecting on the incredible insights our guests have shared since we first launched in 2019. I mentioned last week that this reflection started when a young filmmaker, Vishal Sharma[i], reached out to me and offered to create YouTube Shorts[ii] from past interviews. When I saw his first example, something clicked. As I reviewed older episodes, I realized I had only scratched the surface of the lessons within each interview. So as we dive into this review of past conversations, know that this review isn’t just for you—it’s for me as well. I’ve learned that slowing down helps us to uncover even more wisdom, and I’m excited for us to walk this path together. For today’s Episode 367, we’re going back to Episode 66[iii] with the late Bob Proctor—the first person who challenged me to think. Last week we covered our first YouTube Short[iv] where we picked out three important nuggets of wisdom that I had missed until re-listening to this episode. We covered in PART 1: ✔ Top Lesson from Episode 66 – Where we refined the question: “What do you really want to do with your life?” hoping that midway through 2025, we can refine our goals, and see if we are on track. ✔ Sage Advice Tip #1: “We have been given the mental faculties to create our own environment. “We explored how to go beyond our five senses and tap into the six higher faculties of our mind (further developing our reason, intuition, perception, will, memory and imagination.” ✔ Sage Advice Tip #2: “There’s only one mind.” We looked at how our actions matter because we are all deeply connected. ✔ Sage Advice Tip#3: “We are a soul—we don’t have one.” We reflected on the perfection within each of us, and how this perfection continually drives us toward bigger and better possibilities. Today, we are going to cover 2 short video clips and dive into the wisdom contained within each, making the connections with each nugget of wisdom learned. And since I’m always looking to connect the science to our learning, there are some age-old success principles we will cover today, that are proven to work time and time again. While science doesn’t call out the success principles exactly as we will cover them today, Stanford University neuroscientist and tenured professor of neurobiology, Dr. Andrew Huberman does discuss “the science of imagination and its impact on creativity and learning” on his recent podcast episode “The Science of Creativity: How to Enhance Creative Innovation.”[v] Keep an open mind, as we discover how we can rise to new levels of success by applying the timeless principles we explored in Episode 66. For today’s EP 367-PART 2 of our review of EP 66, we will cover: Sage Tip #1: In the first clip we learned that “If we want to improve our RESULTS, we must focus on the six faculties of our mind—reason, intuition, perception, will, memory, and imagination.” The key is to choose one of these faculties and dedicate time to studying and applying it until you see real results from your deeper understanding. You could even spend an entire year on just one faculty, and it would be time well invested. Sage Tip #2: In the second clip we learned that “Goals are not set to get; they are set to grow.” Sometimes goals don’t unfold the way we expect, and that’s okay—as long as we keep moving forward and growing. To do this, we must keep studying, learning about ourselves, clarifying what we truly want, and seeking specialized knowledge in our field from those who have gone before us. VIDEO 1 Watch by Clicking Here Click on the link in the show notes to watch video clip 1 where I asked the question “what are some of the common reasons why people don’t reach their full potential” as I’ve always wondered why many of us get stuck. It really has boggled my mind over the years why there is such a puzzle around reaching high levels of success and achievement. Myself included. Bob replied with “well, the answer to that is pretty obvious. We were not taught anything about ourselves” and he went right back to how we were never taught how to live beyond our five senses, and most of us haven’t fully developed the six faculties of our mind that we went into on EP 294[vi]  and he said that we let the outside world control us. That rang true to me. It’s a rare individual who moves forward, towards their goals, past the many obstacles they face. Something always seems to get in the way, and delay progress, but those who achieve these high levels of success, have become masters at moving forward, despite what they face. Sage Tip #1: If we want to improve our RESULTS, we are going to have to narrow in on the six faculties of our mind (our reason, intuition, perception, will, memory and imagination). You can review the 6 faculties on EP 294[vii] where we covered each faculty, with examples on how to develop them. We could spend years working on each faculty, to really sharpen the saw. I remember when I first found a book on how to develop my intuition (one of the 6 faculties of the mind). It was my early days of living in the US (after moving from Toronto to Arizona in 2001, sometime after September 11th had happened) and I was cleaning someone’s house (after the work I was doing in the seminar industry came to a fast halt without the ability for people to travel by air) I found work that brought me more money than I imagined possible. It was a humbling time, that’s for sure.  I noticed this book on a book shelf and asked the owner if I could read her book, and bring it back when I returned. I remember she looked at me and said “keep it!” and took it off her book shelf. I must have given that book to someone else to read, (following her example) but I still have the next one I bought after that, called Developing Intuition by Shakti Gawain.[viii] Take your time learning these six intellectual factors. Each one, will serve you well once you learn how to use them, and developing these faculties would be one of the main differentiators that Bob mentioned separated those who achieved their goals, from those who did not. The biggest lesson I learned from diving into my intuitive factor (from reading these books) was learning to trust myself with the insights that would flash on the screen of my mind, (as learned from The Silva Method EP 261),[ix] or listening to my body with what neuroscience calls interoception and finally, applying this intuition to my work life, something that 20 years ago, was not a concept ever spoken about in our corporate workplaces. I’ll never forget when Greg Link, who took the 7 Habits Book to great heights with the Covey Organization, mentioned this book on Intuition, on EP 207[x] on “Unleashing Greatness with Neuroscience, Trust and the 7 Habits.” If Gawain’s book on Intuition was on Greg Link’s book shelf, I think that’s enough to say it comes highly recommended. To sharpen your saw on these higher faculties, go back and review EP 274, and make it a mission to work on one faculty at a time, until you are using each one, effectively, in your daily life. This will be time well spent. VIDEO 2 Watch by Clicking Here Click on the link in the show notes to watch video clip 2. ✔ Sage Advice Tip #2: In this clip we learned that “Goals are set not to get, they are set to grow. And sometimes if the goals don’t work, that’s ok. As long as you keep going, and growing. The main thing is that you keep growing, and become more of what you are designed to become. We have to keep doing greater good, and expand on what we are doing.” Then he went back to Thomas Troward’s quote that we covered last week, saying that “spirit is always for expansion and fuller expression” which explains that we will want to do bigger and better things all the time. To do this, he says, “we will need help, because specialized knowledge is so important.” Keep Growing There is a lot to think about with this tip. How do you keep growing? I think the answer to this is to keep studying and learning about yourself. I sometimes hear my kids say they want to do something (can we go to the mall) because they are bored, and I think, “why not read a book” and take your mind on a trip inside the pages of a book. I want to hand them Shakti Gawain’s book on Developing Intuition and tell them to come back to me in a year and tell me what they have learned, but in order to study and do the work needed, it has to come from within each person. You’ll agree with me if you have ever tried to force someone to read a book that you are enjoying. It’s much easier to transfer knowledge to others just by living by example. Do your own work. Keep studying, learning, growing, and when asked what you are reading, share what you are doing. You won’t be surprised when others come back and tell you that they have bought the book you are reading, and share with you what they have learned. Learning is contagious, but it must come from within each person, when they are ready. Specialized Knowledge We covered the importance of this topic on PART 3 of our Review of Napoleon Hill’s Think and Grow Rich book back on EP 193[xi] as this book has a whole chapter dedicated to Specialized Knowledge. Just to review, and further hone in on what it is that we want, chapter 5 of Hill’s book reminds us that an understanding of specialized knowledge will separate you from everyone else, making you special with the knowledge you have acquired. In chapter 5 Hill teaches us that knowledge (general or specialized) must be “organized and intelligently directed” (CH 5, page 79, TAGR) “and is only potential power. It becomes power only when, and if it is organized into definite plans of action and directed to a definite end.” While we are working on whatever it is that we want, and we are studying and learning, and growing as a result of this, we now add the understanding of asking others who have knowledge that we need (specialized knowledge) that we will take, organize it, and use it in pursuit of whatever it is we are working on. REVIEW and CONCLUSION To wrap up this week’s Episode 367—where we revisited two powerful clips from Episode 66, our interview with Bob Proctor—we explored: Sage Tip #1: In the first clip we learned that “If we want to improve our RESULTS, we must focus on the six faculties of our mind—reason, intuition, perception, will, memory, and imagination.” The key is to choose one of these faculties and dedicate time to studying and applying it until you see real results from your deeper understanding. You could even spend an entire year on just one faculty, and it would be time well invested. Sage Tip #2: In the second clip we learned that “Goals are not set to get; they are set to grow.” Sometimes goals don’t unfold the way we expect, and that’s okay—as long as we keep moving forward and growing. To do this, we must keep studying, learning about ourselves, clarifying what we truly want, and seeking specialized knowledge in our field from those who have gone before us. I hope that these tips that I wanted to revisit have helped you to continue to sharpen your saw, and bring you closer to whatever it is that you are working on this year. What I’m learning is that there isn’t an end to this process. We will always seek “fuller and greater expression” and to dedicate time to studying and learning about ourselves, we separating ourselves from those who struggle to reach their goals, to the ones who attain them, and then reach out to help others do the same. With that thought, we will close out this episode and I’ll see you next week, for PART 3 of our review of EP 66. If you want to learn more about how Bob Proctor created his legacy that include not only where he was successful, but where he struggled, you can watch the movie behind his legacy here https://www.bobproctorlegacy.com/   See you next week. RESOURCES: Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE #293 https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/brain-fact-friday-on-our-conscious-mind-and-the-five-senses/    [i] Vishal Sharma Instagram https://www.instagram.com/vishal_is_here03/   [ii] Andrea’s YouTube Shorts-created by Vishal Sharma https://www.youtube.com/@AndreaSamadi/shorts   [iii] Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE #66 with The Legendary Bob Proctor  https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/the-legendary-bob-proctor-on/   [iv] YouTube Short 1 with Bob Proctor  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_npFmt6zVE4   [v]The Science of Creativity: How to Enhance Creative Innovation Dr. Andrew Huberman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPlJcD-o-4Q   [vi]Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE #294 “Beyond Our Five Senses: Using the Six Faculties of Our Mind”  https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/beyond-our-5-senses-understanding-and-using-the-six-higher-faculties-of-our-mind/   [vii]Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE #294 “Beyond Our Five Senses: Using the Six Faculties of Our Mind”   https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/beyond-our-5-senses-understanding-and-using-the-six-higher-faculties-of-our-mind/   [viii] Developing Intuition: Practical Guidance for Daily Life by Shakti Gawain Published January 9, 2002 https://www.amazon.com/Developing-Intuition-Practical-Guidance-Daily/dp/1577311868   [ix] Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE #261 PART 1 of Apply the Silva Method for Improved Intuition, Creativity and Focus. https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/a-deep-dive-with-andrea-samadi-into-applying-the-silva-method-for-improved-intuition-creativity-and-focus-part-1/   [x]Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE with Greg Link on 207 “Unleashing Greatness with Neuroscience, Trust and the 7 Habits” https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/co-founder-of-coveylink-greg-link-on-unleashing-greatness-with-neuroscience-sel-trust-and-the-7-habits/   [xi] Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE 193 “Think and Grow Rich-PART 3” https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/think-and-grow-rich-book-review-part-3-using-autosuggestion-and-your-imagination-to-put-your-goals-on-autopilot    
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  • Unlocking Your Potential: Redefining Goals with Bob Proctor's Wisdom- PART 1
    Welcome to Season 14 of the Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast! Join Andrea Samadi as she revisits past episodes to unearth profound insights from experts like Bob Proctor. As the podcast embarks on a journey of reflection, discover how to connect science with social and emotional learning for enhanced well-being, achievements, and productivity. In this episode, Andrea dives into episode 66, exploring life-altering lessons with the legendary Bob Proctor, who challenged her with the pivotal question: What do you really want to do with your life? Through the lens of practical neuroscience, learn how to craft huge goals, venture beyond our senses, and tap into the higher faculties of mind to transform those dreams into reality. Discover the essence of interconnectedness and the profound truth that we are souls, not just physical beings. This episode is a roadmap for anyone yearning to refine their goals and elevate their understanding to new heights. Don't miss this exploration of timeless wisdom that promises transformative growth. In this first part of our series, we’ll explore: How to ask the right questions to uncover your real desires. Why you must go beyond your five senses and tap into your higher mental faculties—like imagination, intuition, and will—to create a life you love. The mindset shift that transforms vague wishes into powerful, crystal-clear goals. Bob’s wisdom wasn’t just theory—it was a challenge to think differently, act boldly, and believe in possibilities far beyond my comfort zone. And it all begins with one question: “What do you really want?” Watch our past interview here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHWMCzfODU4  Watch our YouTube Short here https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_npFmt6zVE4  BE SURE TO SIGN UP TO SEE THE NEW MOVIE Bob Proctor's Legacy https://www.bobproctorlegacy.com/  On the EP 366, and PART 1 review of EP 66 we will cover: ✔ Top Lesson from Episode 66 – Refining the question: “What do you really want to do with your life?” ✔ Sage Advice #1: “We have been given the mental faculties to create our own environment.” We explored how to go beyond our five senses and tap into the six higher faculties of our mind. ✔ Sage Advice #2: “There’s only one mind.” We looked at how our actions matter because we are all deeply connected. ✔ Sage Advice #3: “We are a soul—we don’t have one.” We reflected on the perfection within each of us, and how it continually drives us toward bigger and better possibilities.   Welcome back to SEASON 14 of The Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast, where we connect the science-based evidence behind social and emotional learning and emotional intelligence training for improved well-being, achievement, productivity and results—using what I saw as the missing link (since we weren’t taught this when we were growing up in school), the application of practical neuroscience. I’m Andrea Samadi, and seven years ago I started this podcast with one big question that I had never thought of in the past: If productivity and results matter to you—how exactly are you using your brain to make these results happen? Most of us were never taught how to apply neuroscience to boost our productivity, results, or well-being. That’s why I set out to bring you the world’s top experts—so we can learn the intersection of science, and social and emotional learning skills, putting what we learn into action every day, for predictable results. As we kick off Season 14, I’ve been revisiting past episodes and reflecting on the incredible insights our guests have shared since we first launched in 2019. This reflection started when a young filmmaker, Vishal Sharma[i], reached out to me and offered to create YouTube Shorts[ii] from past interviews. When I saw his first example, something clicked. As I reviewed older episodes, I realized I had only scratched the surface of the lessons inside each interview. I started re-listening—not just to refresh my memory, but to deepen my own understanding. And honestly, I was surprised at how many ideas I had missed or forgotten. So as we dive into this review of past conversations, know that this isn’t just for you, the listener—it’s for me as well. I’ve learned that slowing down helps us uncover even more wisdom, and I’m excited for us to walk this path together. For today’s Episode 366[iii], we’re going back to Episode 66 where my journey began, with the legendary Bob Proctor—the first person who truly challenged me to think. Back in the late 1990s, he asked me a simple but life-changing question: “What do you really want to do with your life?” I remember being completely stumped. I didn’t have a clear, well-thought-out answer. But looking back, I’m grateful he asked—because that question launched me on the path to understanding the mind, the brain, psychology, and neuroscience. It’s been a journey that’s had plenty of twists and turns, and where everything began for me. As we revisit past episodes like this one, my hope is that together, we can create a roadmap for success—one that helps you take the lessons you hear and actually apply them in your daily life. So going back to EP 66, and our interview with Bob Proctor, I think back and remember that it was easy to book time on Bob’s calendar back then, because this interview was scheduled June 2020, right at the start of the pandemic. Prior to this time, it would have been very difficult to have made this interview happen. I had written out some of the most important life lessons I had learned from Bob, prior to recording our interview, and while all the lessons are important, I am going to focus on the first one for this review. I learned how to set huge goals—goals most people might call “crazy”—when Bob asked me, “What do you really want?” When I gave him my answer, I knew I could have done better. I didn’t have my life all thought out at the time. I didn’t know what the faculties of my mind were, nor had I spent any time developing my intuition, or imagination. He met me where I was, and explained that there were specific steps I needed to follow. It began with writing my goals on a card he gave me, and I did what he told me to do. I actually put some of the goals into visual pictures that I drew out to go along with each goal. He told me that if I followed all his suggestions and truly believed in what I was doing, I could achieve what I wanted. I believed him—and I followed through. Looking back at the list of goals I set back then, in my early days of self-discovery, most of these goals were eventually achieved, and this “writing of goals on a card” became a yearly ritual to help me to keep moving forward. This was 26 years ago, and while that “goal-setting” activity was an important lesson to learn, as we are revisiting these episodes, and planning out the roadmap for this review, I’m personally revisiting this question now, and refining my vision for the next 1, 3, 5 and 10 years. What about you, the listener? Wherever you are tuning in from, around the world. Do you have a clear written description of what it is that YOU want? If we never think about this important question, and clearly write it all out, I’m sure you will agree with me that life will pass by, and our results will stay exactly the same. So, as we walk through each interview together, digging into the lessons we might have missed, do this with your written vision of what it is that you want, right in front of you, to refine and improve along the way. “What do you REALLY want?”[iv] Now let’s visit some of the pieces of wisdom I missed in EP 66, by reviewing our YouTube Shorts and see if we can take our understanding to new heights. VIDEO 1 Watch this YouTube Short SAGE ADVICE 1 “We have been given the mental faculties to create our own environment.” What exactly does this mean? In Episode 294, we explored these mental faculties in depth, revisiting the lessons Bob taught those 12 teenagers who forever changed the course of my life. That moment was the true starting point for me, and it began with this concept where I learned that if we can learn to live beyond our 5 senses (what we see, hear, smell, taste and touch” and begin to live through our higher faculties of mind (our reason, intuition, perception, will, memory, and imagination” we will take our results to unimaginable heights. Much of creating what I truly wanted in those early days began with my imagination, one of our mental faculties. The vision I wrote down on paper back then wasn’t logical by any standard—but it was the understanding of these mental faculties that shaped my future. This is a good concept to revisit, to be sure that when setting goals, that we are tapping into these “higher faculties of our mind” and reaching for places, things, experiences that stretch us beyond what we know we are capable to achieving. These higher faculties are here to take us to these NEW heights that we can only see when we open up to the potential of new possibilities that we may never have thought of before. REMEMBER: “Imagination is the most marvelous, miraculous, inconceivably powerful force the world has ever known.” Napoleon Hill SAGE ADVICE 2 “There’s only one mind.” When I first encountered this idea, it was in something I was reading that included a diagram—people connected like lightbulbs, all drawing from one main source. This can be seen as universal consciousness, or the collective consciousness, a reminder that we are all connected to each other and to the single intelligence behind all existence. It’s a profound concept, but to me it simply means this: what I do matters, because it affects the whole. I believe our goal is to continually expand our awareness and deepen our consciousness—a feat that National Geographic describes as “the most astonishing act our big, complex, interconnected brains pull off, and scientists are only just beginning to understand” (The Brain, Julia Sklar). SAGE ADVICE 3 “We are a soul, we don’t have one.” [v] This concept suggests that “the essence of a person is their soul” rather than their physical body. We did touch on the mind/body/soul connection with Marie Gervais on EP 214[vi] and I will always work on seeing the “spirit” of a person, and look deeper, than just taking what I “see” at face value. To better understand yourself and your goals, it makes sense to understand this concept that “we are a soul, we don’t have one.” There is “perfection” within each of us, and that perfection is seeking expression (with and through us). I could spend an hour talking about this one from Thomas Troward’s Dore Lectures of Mental Science where he explains that “My mind is A center of Divine operation. (think of a center of a basketball where there is power with movement, or so above/so below). The Divine operation is always for expansion and fuller expression, (we are always going to want more-if we are in sales, we will want more sales, if we are a runner, we will want to run faster. We will never be satisfied unless we are growing. We will always want to do what we do-better) and this means the production of something beyond what has gone before, (we have never done this thing YET) something entirely new, not included in past experience, though proceeding out of it by an orderly sequence of growth.” (this is HOW we move towards what we want, that thing that we imagined, something that takes us BEYOND where we have ever been…into a whole NEW place that in the beginning we could only see with our imagination, until one day…we are living this thing or live we imagined). And with just diving into 3 tips of wisdom from EP 66, there is so much more still to cover. REVIEW and CONCLUSION To wrap up this week’s Episode 366—where we revisited a clip from Episode 66, our interview with Bob Proctor—we explored: ✔ Top Lesson from Episode 66 – Refining the question: “What do you really want to do with your life?” ✔ Sage Advice #1: “We have been given the mental faculties to create our own environment.” We explored how to go beyond our five senses and tap into the six higher faculties of our mind. ✔ Sage Advice #2: “There’s only one mind.” We looked at how our actions matter because we are all deeply connected. ✔ Sage Advice #3: “We are a soul—we don’t have one.” We reflected on the perfection within each of us, and how it continually drives us toward bigger and better possibilities. With that, we will close out this episode. I hope that reviewing our past interviews helps you to refine your goals this year, and work towards whatever it is that YOU really want.   I’ll see you next week with PART 2 of our review of EP 66. There’s a lot still left to explore from this one. Have a good week and don't forget to sign up to watch Bob Proctor's Legacy Movie https://www.bobproctorlegacy.com/  RELEASED August 10, 2025   RESOURCES Vishal Sharma Videographer Instagram https://www.instagram.com/vishal_is_here03/ My YouTube channel https://youtube.com/@vishalsharma00991?si=Tj4CFHAy5CYrGgYU    Our Conscious Mind and 5 Senses https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/brain-fact-friday-on-our-conscious-mind-and-the-five-senses/     NEW MOVIE BOB PROCTOR'S LEGACY RELEASED AUG 10th 2025 https://www.bobproctorlegacy.com/    REFERENCES:   [i] Vishal Sharma Instagram https://www.instagram.com/vishal_is_here03/   [ii] Andrea’s YouTube Shorts-created by Vishal Sharma https://www.youtube.com/@AndreaSamadi/shorts   [iii] Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE #66 with The Legendary Bob Proctor  https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/the-legendary-bob-proctor-on/ [iv] What Do You Really Want? Bob Proctor https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Gaf1uXjuPHc   [v] Bob Proctor We Are a Soul, We Don’t Have One https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFyBf8GDs3Y   [vi]Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast EPISODE #214 with Marie Gervais on The Spirit of Work  https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/marie-gervais-phd-on-the-spirit-of-work-connecting-science-business-practices-and-sacred-texts-for-a-happier-and-more-productive-workplace/  
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We cover the science-based evidence behind social and emotional learning (for schools) and emotional intelligence training (in the workplace). Our podcast provides tools, resources and ideas for parents, teachers and employees to improve well-being, achievement and productivity using simple neuroscience as it relates to our cognitive (the skills our brain uses to think, read, remember, pay attention), social and interpersonal relationships (with ourselves and others) and emotional learning (where we recognize and manage our emotions, demonstrate empathy and cope with frustration and stress). Season 1: Provides you with the tools, resources and ideas to implement proven strategies backed by the most current neuroscience research to help you to achieve the long-term gains of implementing a social and emotional learning program in your school, or emotional intelligence program in your workplace. Season 2: Features high level guests who tie in social, emotional and cognitive strategies for high performance in schools, sports and the workplace. Season 3: Ties in some of the top motivational business books and guest with the most current brain research to take your results and productivity to the next level. Season 4: Brings in positive mental health and wellness strategies to help cope with the stresses of life, improving cognition, productivity and results. Season 5: Continues with the theme of mental health and well-being with strategies for implementing practical neuroscience to improve results for schools, sports and the workplace. Season 6: The Future of Educational Neuroscience and its impact on our next generation. Diving deeper into the Science of Learning. Season 7: Brain Health and Well-Being (Focused on Physical and Mental Health). Season 8: Brain Health and Learning (Focused on How An Understanding of Our Brain Can Improve Learning in Ourselves (adults, teachers, workers) as well as future generations of learners. Season 9: Strengthening Our Foundations: Neuroscience 101: Going Back to the Basics PART 1 Season 10:Strengthening Our Foundations: Neuroscience 101: Going Back to the Basics PART 2 Season 11: The Neuroscience of Self-Leadership PART 1 Season 12:The Neuroscience of Self-Leadership PART 2 Season 13:The Neuroscience of Self-Leadership PART 3 Season 14: Reviewing Our Top Interviews PART 1
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