Every trail ride ends at the, well, end of the trail.
This is the end of the trail for The Cyber Ranch Podcast.
Drew and Allan offer final parting thoughts and conduct brief interviews with 3 folks whose presence was vital to the show:Â Chris Cochran, Ron Eddings, and Rich Salim.
It's been an amazing journey and we thank ALL of you who ever listened to even just one snippet of one episode.
Y'all stay good now!
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Why We Need To Rethink All of It
Howdy, y’all, and welcome to The Cyber Ranch Podcast. Today we tackle WHY?Â
Why do we have this show? Why do we ask the questions we ask and host the guests we host? Why does any of this matter?
More importantly, WHY do we all keep doing the same things over and over, saying the same things over and over, and expecting better results?
WHATÂ can we change?
Join Allan Alford, many times CISO, and cybersecurity podcaster of many years now. Joining Allan is Drew Simonis, who has been co-hosting the show now for 21 episodes, and a guest a few times before that.
This show is a chance to understand the premise of the show better, to understand Drew better, and to find out why we're all here. Drew's bonafides:
CISO @ Juniper Networks
Former CISO and Deputy CISO @ HPE
CISO @ Willis
And various other roles including an industry role at Symantec
Drew joined as co-host because he’s a deep thinker, and because he applies that deep thinking to challenging the status quo.
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Allan's WHY? Is very simple. We’ve not grown or progressed as an industry in years now. Which means we are clearly doing something wrong. Mostly, IMHO, resting on our laurels, making the same assumptions, trying the same techniques, and not questioning any of it.
Drew offers a more nuanced take on the idea of "speaking the language of the business". It's a great show. Y'all be good now!
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Narrative Intelligence with Joe Stradinger
We have all had a vague sense that our world is being manipulated, informed and fed by various conscious manipulation tactics - influence on political campaigns on social media, culture wars, class wars, etc. But we can glean out the facts and figure out who is telling what story if we embrace a new discipline - Narrative Intelligence.
Our guest this week is Joe Stradinger, Founder and CEO of EdgeTheory, who are out to understand and leverage the conversations that shape our world. Specifically, social media campaigns and presences. Think threat intelligence but at a global/sociopolitical level. Joe has been an investor, he has worked in DC, and he has a lot of academic ties as well. His knowledge in this space is immense, and we are tickled pink to have him here at the ‘Ranch.
We ask Joe:
What are the goals of a robust threat intelligence program?
What is narrative intelligence and why does it matter?
Compare and contrast this to traditional threat intelligence?
How do adversaries influence the narratives? Is this the realm of bots and deepfakes?
Does narrative intelligence replace, complement, or improve on traditional approaches?
How can narrative intelligence enable you to get in front of problems?
It's an excellent conversation, well worth a listen.
Y'all be good now!
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CISO vs. CTO with Jon Green
Howdy, y’all, and welcome to The Cyber Ranch Podcast! That’s Jon Green, an experienced CISO but also an experienced CTO. Jon is currently the CSO and CTO at HPE’s Aruba. He’s also a DefCon goon and a Team8 Villager. He’s done the marketing engineer side, the network engineer side… Quite a storied past. We are thrilled to be talking with him about the differences between CSO/CISO and CTO. Jon, thank you so much for joining us at the ‘Ranch!
Tell us about your early career, did you start in security or as a technologist?
What are the key priorities for someone with a CTO title?Â
As someone who has held both CTO and CSO titles, how does the pressure to deliver revenue impacting products differ from the pressure cyber leaders face?
What does it feel like to be on the receiving end of security requirements which are often developed in the abstract or for the general case?
When you are assessing future trends and technology shifts, what are the different lenses you use to make the security evaluation vs the more functional and integration-oriented evaluation?
What is something you have learned which surprised you? What do you wish other CSOs understood better? What is a piece of advice…
You’ve been involved in Defcon and other cyber events for many years, what changes have you seen during that time?
Y'all be good now!
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Industry Introspective with Thomas Krane
Howdy, y’all, and welcome to The Cyber Ranch Podcast! Our guest is Thomas Krane, Managing Director at Insight Partners. If you go to Thomas’ LinkedIn page, you will also see that he works with a number of cybersecurity scaleups (we'll define that term). As such, Thomas is uniquely qualified to speak to some trends in the industry. Drew asked Thomas to join us here at the ‘Ranch to discuss quite a few facets of the industry. Thomas, thank you for coming on down to the ‘Ranch!
We see consolidation and platform creation, but also continued development and evolution of point products. Are we better to view cyber as a single market or is this a combination of several related but distinct markets?
It looks like money is flowing into startups again, is that so? If so, what factors are driving the renewed interest in cyber products? And what is the difference between a startup and a scaleup
Is VC money leading the development of new solutions or is it in a phase of fast following?
Aside from AI, what types of solutions are heating up and where is it seeing more stable maturity? Any areas that have fallen off the map?
Speaking of AI, are you seeing predominately new solutions or reframing of existing solutions to fit the new challenges that AI poses?
Two ends of a spectrum, security using AI and securing AI. Which is most interesting? Which is more likely to produce a big breakthrough? Which is a more solvable problem?
Y'all be good now!
Ride the cyber trails with two CISOs (Allan Alford and Drew Simonis) and a diverse group of friends and experts who bring a human perspective to cybersecurity.
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