The A.I. Jobpocalypse + Building at Anthropic with Mike Krieger + Hard Fork Crimes Division
This week, we dive into Kevin’s recent column about how A.I. is affecting the job market for new graduates, and debate whether the job apocalypse is already here for entry-level work. Then Mike Krieger joins us to discuss the new Claude 4 model, the future of work and the online chatter over whether an A.I. system could blackmail you. And finally, it’s time to open up the case files for another round of Hard Fork Crimes Division.Guest:Mike Krieger, chief product officer at AnthropicAdditional Reading:For Some Recent Graduates, the A.I. Job Apocalypse May Already Be HereAnother Suspect Is Charged in Bitcoin Kidnapping and Torture CaseElizabeth Holmes’s Partner Has a New Blood-Testing Start-UpWe want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok.
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Google DeepMind C.E.O. Demis Hassabis on Living in an A.I. Future
This week, we take a field trip to Google and report back about everything the company announced at its biggest show of the year, Google I/O. Then, we sit down with Google DeepMind’s chief executive and co-founder, Demis Hassabis, to discuss what his A.I. lab is building, the future of education, and what life could look like in 2030.Guest:Demis Hassabis, co-founder and chief executive of Google DeepMindAdditional Reading:At Google I/O, everything is changing and normal and scary and chillGoogle Unveils A.I. Chatbot, Signaling a New Era for SearchGoogle DeepMind C.E.O. Demis Hassabis on the Path From Chatbots to A.G.I.We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok.
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What’s a Hard Fork?
Hosts Kevin Roose and Casey Newton explore stories from the wild frontier of tech.What’s real? What’s hype? “Hard Fork” is here to help you make sense of it. Tune in every Friday.
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