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  • Andor (2025), Season 2, Ep. 4-6 w/ Paul Adlerstein and David Klion | Ep. 28
    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.bangbangpod.comVan and Lyle are joined by journalist David Klion and returning guest Paul Adlerstein to unpack Episodes 4 through 6 of Andor Season 2, when the slow-burn tension of the early arc erupts into full-fledged moral crisis.They discuss how Ghorman—rendered with a kind of haute-bourgeois, French fusion aesthetic—is not only targeted by the Empire’s military clampdown, but also by its Fox News–style media wing, and fashion becomes a proxy for disloyalty. Meanwhile, Mothma’s effort to secure a de-escalation vote in defense of Ghorman is met with apathy or cowardice by her Senate colleagues, nominal liberals who fold in the face of imperial momentum.The group also notes Bix’s PTSD, a trauma-riddled silence that now borders on suicidal despair, as well as Luthen and Saw’s parallel unraveling. One hides behind charm, the other behind mania, but both embody the same truth, that revolution is not for the sane.“Do you think I’m crazy?” Saw asks. “Yes, I am. Revolution is not for the sane.” And Luthen proves it, growing impatient with Mothma’s delays and willing to let Ghorman burn to protect the long game.Further ReadingPaul’s websiteDavid on Twitter“Andor Is the Best Star Wars You Will Ever See,” by David KlionProject Fulcrum: Nemik’s Weekly ManifestoThe Romance of American Communism, by Vivian GornickTeaser from the Episode:Andor Season 2 Trailer
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  • Andor (2025) Season 2 Ep. 1-3 w/ Jenny G. Zhang | Ep. 27
    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.bangbangpod.comSlate culture editor Jenny G. Zhang returns to the pod for our initial foray into the first block of Andor Season 2. Van and Jenny discuss the all-too-familiar labor exploitation on the agricultural planet Mina Rau, and how it relies on illegal immigration to remain profitable; the way that the Galactic Empire offers license to the patriarchal impulse of some to dominate others; and the secretive, elitist logic that leads agents of empire into committing genocide in order to secure critical minerals…and we are of course referring to Ghorman and the Empire’s need to extract it for the Death Star. Plus: Senator Mon Mothma’s performance of desperation at her daughter’s wedding—dancing like no one’s watching with a face that can’t hide agony…totally the vibe of 2025. Catch Up on Our Season 1 CoverageAndor Season 2 Trailer
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  • Exodus (1960) w/ David Meir Grossman | Ep. 26
    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.bangbangpod.comOtto Preminger’s Exodus isn’t just a sweeping Hollywood epic but a foundational text of the postwar Zionist imagination. Van and Lyle are joined by journalist David Meir Grossman to dissect the 1960 film and its enduring legacy. Together, they parse the film’s aesthetics and ideology, its thinly veiled apologetics for settler colonialism, and its staging of Jewish suffering as license for state power.From the very first scene, where a tour guide on Cyprus rattles off its many conquerors with oblivious irony, the film makes clear that it sees empire not as problem but backdrop. The British are cast as bureaucratic brutes, the Arabs as angry fanatics, and the Jews as righteous protagonists caught between. But this story collapses under its own contradictions: The hunger strike led by Jewish detainees mirrors tactics long used by Palestinians; mothers proclaim they would rather die with their children than be deported, a form of resistance the film treats with reverence. Yet when Palestinians make similar claims decades later, they are cast as monstrous, even suicidal.The conversation also revisits the film’s iconic characters. Paul Newman’s Ari Ben-Canaan embodies the Zionist hero as charismatic, haunted, and certain that Jewish liberation can be achieved without reckoning with anyone else’s. Then there’s Kitty Fremont, the well-meaning American nurse whose imperious naïveté mirrors the U.S.’s own posture toward the region.David, Van, and Lyle trace how Exodus anticipates not only the mythologies of the Israeli state but also the moral blind spots of its liberal defenders. They explore the film’s revealing attempts at nuance—such as the friendship between Ari and the Palestinian character Taha (played by the white American heartthrob John Derek)—and why those gestures fall flat in the face of the larger narrative. If Exodus helped consecrate Israel’s founding story for American audiences, this episode tries to read between its frames.Further ReadingDavid on TwitterThe Question of Zion (2005), by Jacqueline Rose“Zionism from the Standpoint of Its Victims” (1979), by Edward SaidDiaspora Boy: Comics on Crisis in America and Israel (2017), by Eli ValleyOn the Arab-Jew, Palestine, and Other Displacements (2017), by Ella ShohatJustice for Some: Law and the Question of Palestine (2019), by Noura ErakatTeaser from the EpisodeExodus TrailerThe full video episode for our coverage of Exodus is available as an unlisted link on YouTube, just for paid subscribers, below:
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  • Andor (2022), Episodes 10–12 w/ David Austin Walsh | Ep. 25
    Van (minus Lyle) is joined by historian David Austin Walsh to explore episodes 10-12 of Andor’s first-season finale. Their conversation focuses on Andor’s embrace of revolution and the surprising political realism of the show’s portrayal of labor exploitation and social uprisings. Van and David also discuss liberalism’s failure to inspire meaningful change in the real world—why has no electoral politician in our lifetime ever roused our souls like Marva did in episode’s 12’s revolt on the planet Ferrix? What might that say about the rise of fascism in the 2020s? Further ReadingDavid Austin Walsh on TwitterTaking America Back: The Conservative Movement and the Far Right, by David Austin Walsh“Luthen Rael Embodies Andor’s Gray Side,” by Roxana Hadadi“A Tale of Miners and Prisoners,” by RK UpadhyaTeaserAndor Season 1 Trailer This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.bangbangpod.com/subscribe
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  • Politics Behind the Scenes with David Austin Walsh | Ep. 24
    An occasional glimpse behind the curtain as Van (missing Lyle!) sits down with historian David Austin Walsh to gossip a bit about the conservative movement, far-right politics, and how Van ended up unwittingly studying at a paleocon university. David joined the Bang-Bang Podcast to discuss Star Wars’ Andor (episode forthcoming) and we were able to get some great convo before recording.Bang-Bang is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.bangbangpod.com/subscribe
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A show about war movies, with an anti-imperialist twist. Hosted by Van Jackson and Lyle Jeremy Rubin--military veterans, war critics, and wannabe film critics. www.bangbangpod.com
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