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Alix Dunn
Computer Says Maybe
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    Is Claude Out of the War Business? w/ Amos Toh

    25/02/2026 | 8 mins.
    Anthropic’s Claude was used in the military operation to kidnap president Maduro earlier this year. Why? Unclear. Was this legal? Absolutely not.
    More like this: AI In Gaza: Live from Mexico City

    Surprise, surprise: the DoD feels that they should able to use AI models however they want, as long as its lawful — but… was this lawful? They are now threatening to designate Anthropic as a supply chain risk. What does this all mean?
    For this short, Alix was joined by Amos Toh, senior counsel at the Brennan Centre for Justice, to help us understand why the US defence department and an AI company are arguing about how best to us AI models for dehumanising and unjust military purposes.
    Further reading & resources:
    Pentagon's use of Claude during Maduro raid sparks Anthropic feud — Axios, Feb 13
    Anthropic on shaky ground with Pentagon amid feud after Maduro raid — The Hill, Feb 19
    US used Anthropic's Claude during the Venezuela raid, WSJ reports — Reuters, Feb 16
    Pentagon Used Anthropic’s Claude in Maduro Venezuela Raid — WSJ, Feb 15
    Amos’s Bluesky thread sharing more thoughts on the story
    Computer Says Maybe Shorts bring in experts to give their ten-minute take on recent news. If there’s ever a news story you think we should bring in expertise on for the show, please email [email protected]
    Post Production by Sarah Myles | Pre Production by Georgia Iacovou
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    Lingo Bingo at the India AI Summit w/ Meredith Whittaker, Audrey Tang, Abeba Birhane, and Usha Ramanathan

    20/02/2026 | 44 mins.
    It’s our second week of playing AI lingo bingo. The summit in India is underway and the air is thick with vague terms that fail to describe the big problems.
    More like this: Lingo Bingo at the India AI Summit w/ Karen Hao, Joan Kinyua, Chenai Chair, and Rafael Grohmann

    With us this week to discuss co-opted terms is Meredith Whittaker on how ‘open source’ cannot meaninfully be applied to AI systems; Audrey Tang on ‘democratisation’, something which is both helped and harmed by AI; Abeba Birhane on everyone’s favourite slogan ‘AI for Good’; and Usha Ramanathan to discuss ‘AI and development’ in the context of the Aadhaar project in India.
    Further reading & resources:
    More on Usha Ramanathan — legal researcher and human rights activist
    More on Abeba Birhane — principle investigator at the AI Accountability Lab at Trinity College Dublin
    More on Meredith Whittaker — President of Signal
    More on Audrey Tang — Taiwan’s first Digital Minister
    Distributional AGI Safety — by Nenad Tomašev et al
    Watch this week’s interviews in full on Youtube
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    Pre Production by Georgia Iacovou | Post Production by Sarah Myles
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    Lingo Bingo at the India AI Summit w/ Karen Hao, Joan Kinyua, Chenai Chair, and Rafael Grohmann

    13/02/2026 | 44 mins.
    The AI Impact Summit in India is just a couple of days away and we are ready to drown in vague terms that kinda describe AI, and definitely obscure power. Let’s talk about how to reframe those terms…
    More like this: The Vaporstate: All Hail Scale at the AI India Summit

    We’ve partnered with the AI Now Institute and Aapti Institute to conduct twelve interviews based around the biggest and baddest terms we feel have been co-opted by global summits such as this one. This week we have Karen Hao discussing what it means to be ‘data rich’; Rafael Grohmann on the word ‘sovereignty’ and how it has a hundred definitions; Joan Kinyua on ‘human capital’, a key part of any AI development supply chain; and Chenai Chair, who will discuss ‘linguistic diversity’ — what it is, and what it isn’t.
    These are just the best parts of the interviews — if you want to go deep and see each of these interviews in full, head to our Youtube channel now.
    Further reading & resources:
    More about Rafael Grohmann — Assistant Professor of Media Studies with focus on Critical Platform and Data Studies at the University of Toronto
    More about Karen Hao — investigative journalist and author of Empire of AI
    More about Chenai Chair — director of the Masakhane African Languages Hub
    More about Joan Kinyua — president of the Data Labellers Association
    More on the Due Diligence Act
    More about the amendment to the Business Laws Act 2024
    What does the notion of “sovereignty” mean when referring to the digital? — Stephane Couture and Sophie Toupin
    Buy The Oracle for Transfeminist Technologies by Sasha Costanza-Chock, Joana Varon, and Clara Juliano
    Watch this week’s interviews in full on Youtube (link to playlist of interviews)
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    Post Production by Sarah Myles | Pre Production by Georgia Iacovou
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    The Vaporstate: All Hail Scale at the India AI Summit

    06/02/2026 | 47 mins.
    In The Vaporstate, we have traveled to Brazil, India, and the UK. But what does this look like as a global movement of nations and companies evangelising technology as the key to solving all problems, everywhere?
    More like this: Paris Post-Mortem (live)

    For our final instalment of The Vaporstate, Alix is joined by Astha Kapoor and Amba Kak to reflect on the series, and discuss the upcoming AI Action Summit in India. This is the first time this summit is being hosted by a global majority country — will this create new opportunities for civil society to have a say, or is this just yet another chance for tech companies to whisper magic AI spells into the ear of government?
    The end of The Vaporstate series marks the beginning of another series, made in partnership with AI Now and Aapti Institute: in the run up to the AI Summit, we want to rethink the terms that have been co-opted by government and industry. Terms like ‘sovereignty’, ‘AI for good’, and ‘human capital’. We interviewed twelve experts who unpack how these terms are framed in global summits like this one — watch this space for conversations with Naomi Klein, Meredith Whitaker, and Karen Hao, to name a few.
    Further reading & resources:
    Mark Carney’s speech at Davos January 2026
    Watch the first batch of interviews discussing co-opted terms used in and around the upcoming summit
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    Post Production by Sarah Myles | Pre Production by Georgia Iacovou
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    The Vaporstate: Buy Blair, Sell AI

    30/01/2026 | 45 mins.
    What does US tech billionaire Larry Ellison get when he gives the Tony Blair Institute hundreds of millions of dollars?
    More like this: The Vaporstate: ID in India

    In our third installment of The Vaporstate, we are joined by two journalists from Lighthouse Reports, who tell all about their investigation into the questionable relationship between Oracle founder Larry Ellison, the Tony Blair Institute, and the current Labour government. What is the Tony Blair Institute and why did Ellison give them millions of dollars? What does any of this have to do with national IDs and NHS data? And if you’re a government official somewhere around the world, and TBI comes knocking to sell you an AI future what you should do…?
    Further reading & resources:
    Britain must treat tech giants like nation states — The Times, 2024
    Backlight — Lighthouse’s monthly podcast
    Blair and the Billionaire — Lighthouse Reports 2025
    Inside The Tony Blair Institute — Lighthouse journalists Peter Geoghegan and May Bulman are interviewed by The New Statesman
    Do you have a story that you think is missing from public discourse? Here’s how to get in touch with Lighthouse
    Questions Alix proposed for the Sundance panel — as mentioned in the intro.
    **Subscribe to our newsletter to get more stuff than just a podcast — we run events and do other work that you will definitely be interested in!**
    Post Production by Sarah Myles | Pre Production by Georgia Iacovou

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Technology is changing fast. And it's changing our world even faster. Host Alix Dunn interviews visionaries, researchers, and technologists working in the public interest to help you keep up. Step outside the hype and explore the possibilities, problems, and politics of technology. We publish weekly.
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