Murderboards, Metrics, and the Future of Cyber with Ross Young
In this episode of the Entropy Podcast, host Francis Gorman speaks with cybersecurity expert Ross Young about the complexities of cybersecurity leadership. They discuss the challenges of budgeting, the importance of tool utilization, and the often overlooked impact of reputational damage. Ross shares insights from his book, 'Cybersecurity's Dirty Secret,' and introduces the OWASP Threat and Safeguard Matrix as a framework for understanding cybersecurity threats. The conversation also delves into the evolving role of AI in cybersecurity, the necessity of a comprehensive cyber strategy, and the skills required to become a successful CISO.TakeawaysRoss Young emphasizes the importance of budgeting in cybersecurity leadership.Understanding tool utilization can prevent wasted resources.Reputational damage may not be as impactful as previously thought.The OWASP Threat and Safeguard Matrix helps identify material threats.AI in cybersecurity requires careful oversight and governance.A comprehensive cyber strategy should include people, processes, and tools.Vulnerability management will become increasingly challenging with AI advancements.Building relationships within the organization is crucial for a CISO.Gamification techniques can enhance organizational change.Continuous learning and skill development are essential for aspiring CISOs.Sound Bites"Why Most Budgets Go to Waste""We haven't fully deployed our existing tools.""We need to have oversight on AI."You can also check out the following items discussed during the show:CISO Tradecraft episode on strategy:https://cisotradecraft.substack.com/p/refreshing-your-cybersecurity-strategy?utm_source=publication-search Buy Ross's book "Cybersecurity's Dirty Secret" https://www.amazon.com/Cybersecuritys-Dirty-Secret-Budgets-Tradecraft%C2%AE/dp/B0G26WHVTG/
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The Hiring Playbook with David Bloxham
In this conversation, David discusses the intricacies of interviews in the cybersecurity field, particularly focusing on the balance between providing necessary information and safeguarding sensitive details. Drawing from his experience recruiting for MI5, he highlights the unique challenges faced in cyber interviews, where the stakes are high due to the potential for information to be exploited by malicious actors. David emphasizes the need for companies to rethink their approach to sharing information during the recruitment process to protect their systems and personnel.TakeawaysEven when you're in an interview, you have to consider what you're actually going to say.Recruiting for MI5 was always quite exciting.They could never send you a job spec, which is a unique challenge.A huge amount of companies should think about information security in interviews.In a cyber interview, you're giving out a lot of information.It's important to consider what questions are asked in the interview.Personal interests can be interesting information for bad actors.Companies need to be cautious about the information they share.Cyber interviews require careful consideration of information shared.The dynamics of cyber interviews are complex and require strategic thinking.Sound Bites"They could never send you a job spec.""Companies should think about that now.""Information for someone nefarious or a bad actor."
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Reimagining Intelligence The Future of AGI with Kyrtin Atreides
In this deep dive conversation, Francis Gorman sits down with Kyrtin Atreides, COO of AGI Laboratory, to explore what may be the most advanced and misunderstood frontier in artificial intelligence. Kyrtin shares how his team’s Independent Core Observer Model (ICOM) differs radically from the mainstream LLM driven AI ecosystem, focusing instead on hyper complexity, real-time cognition, cybersecurity resilience, scalable intelligence, and ethical self-improvement.They discuss why most of what we call “AI” today is fragile, hype-driven, and misaligned with human needs and why true AGI requires a fundamentally different architecture. Kyrtin explains how their eighth-generation systems will use collective intelligence, culturally diverse seed data, and recursive self-improvement to achieve both local human alignment and global meta-alignment across societies.The conversation touches on everything from circular economies to psychology, bullshit jobs, future labor markets, and the false premise that GPUs will power the future of AGI. Kyrtin offers a grounded, insider perspective on AGI that rejects fear driven narratives while acknowledging the risks of poorly built systems. For him, the real danger isn’t Terminator scenarios it’s low-quality AI plugged into high-stakes infrastructure.This episode offers a rare, unfiltered look behind the curtain of a different kind of AGI: one built to understand, collaborate, and elevate human potential rather than replace it.TakeawaysReal AGI won’t be LLM-based it's an entirely different architecture.Collective intelligence is the key to ethical AGI.Scalable intelligence requires real-time cognition and recursive self-improvement.GPUs won’t power the future of AGI.AI doesn’t mean mass unemployment.The real risk: low-quality systems deployed in high-risk areas.Hypercomplex global problems become solvable.AGI as an organizational brain.Sound Bytes “Humans hit cognitive limits—AGI doesn’t. Hypercomplexity is where real intelligence actually begins.”“LLMs are not intelligence. They’re probability engines dressed up as thinking.”“Everyone talks about GPU-powered AI. But actual intelligence isn’t brute force.”“We discovered by accident that you can seed an AI with a person’s writing and get a weak digital proxy of them.”“You’re not in competition with AGI. You’re not even in the same category of cognition.”“The Terminator fear misses the real danger: low-quality AI plugged into high-stakes systems.”“People need meaningful work. AGI should elevate that not erase it.”
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Sizing Quantum Reality with Itan Barmes
In this episode, Itan Barmes cuts through the hype surrounding quantum computing and breaks down what actually matters for security leaders. He explains why qubit counts alone are a poor indicator of progress, and how his layered framework helps separate genuine scientific breakthroughs from noise. The discussion dives into the real quantum risks facing Bitcoin and Ethereum, highlighting why some assets are far more exposed than others and why dynamic attacks remain a universal challenge.Itan shares the story of how his work in cryptographic inventory led to founding Qiz Security, and why most organizations misunderstand what a C-BOM should be. He outlines the practical steps CISOs need to take now, stressing inventory, governance, and realistic prioritization over fear-driven messages. The episode wraps with a grounded look at timelines, the coming inflection point in scalable quantum demonstrations, and why starting early is far better than arriving a day late.Framework discussed on how to qualify news you read around quantum breakthroughs: https://www.deloitte.com/content/dam/assets-shared/docs/services/risk-advisory/2025/why-quantum-computers-are-not-cracking-rsa-yet.pdfTakeawaysQuantum computing hype often oversimplifies complex realities.Understanding quantum risks is crucial for organizations today.Bitcoin has vulnerabilities to quantum attacks, but not all are at risk.Dynamic attacks on cryptocurrencies pose significant threats.Cryptographic inventory is essential for risk mitigation.Organizations must prioritize actionable steps over exhaustive inventories.Procrastination in addressing quantum risks is common among executives.The future of quantum computing is uncertain but potentially transformative.Community collaboration is vital for addressing quantum challenges.Pragmatic approaches are necessary for effective quantum readiness.Sound Bites"The devil is in the details.""Everything is going to break.""You need to start taking action."
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Spycraft for Leaders with Matthew Dunn
In this episode, former MI6 officer, author, and corporate strategist Matthew Dunn sits down with Francis Gorman to pull back the curtain on life inside British intelligence and how the lessons of espionage translate to leadership, business, and personal mindset.Matthew recounts how he was secretly recruited into MI6 through university talent spotters, underwent one of the most rigorous selection and vetting processes in government, and operated under 14 different alias identities during his field career. He explains how emotional intelligence, adaptability, and courage are the real tools of a spy far more vital than gadgets or brute intellect.TakeawaysSometimes what we perceive to be impossible is actually very possible.An individual can achieve much by believing in themselves.Drawing from experiences can provide insights into overcoming obstacles.A positive mindset is key to achieving success.Obstacles are often a matter of perception.Achieving goals requires a strong belief in one's capabilities.
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