The Money Trench - The Music Industry Podcast with Mark Sutherland
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- Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by James Sandom, founder of Red Light Management UK.
After nearly 30 years at the forefront of artist management, James is here to share his expertise on what makes a good manager and how he has learned to nurture the artist-manager relationship, via working with artists such as Kaiser Chiefs and Interpol.
The pair discuss the shifting dynamics of global music consumption, the necessity of long-term artist development, and how managers must operate as true strategic partners in the modern industry.
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Producer: Tape Notes TMT:108 Sarah Pearson & Oli Wilson On How Beyond The Music Will Change The Music Biz
27/09/2026 | 1h 5 mins.Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Sarah Pearson and Oli Wilson of Beyond the Music.
Ahead of Beyond the Music in Media City, Salford, Sarah and Oli share their vision for decentralising the industry, and bringing the music business into the modern era.
The trio discuss the current impact of AI on music, what it means to be based in Manchester, how the pair got into the industry and started making a difference, and what it was like to grow up in the Hacienda with Oli’s legendary dad, Factory Records’ Tony Wilson.
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Executive Producer: Mike Walsh
Producer: Tape Notes- Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Samantha Moy and Cam Pia, Head and Music Editor of BBC Radio 6 Music.
With 6 Music’s listening figures buoyant, Samantha and Cam discuss the new Indie Forever spin-off stream, and how they’ve developed the main station's music policy so that it’s much more than just an indie network.
The trio discuss how radio has evolved and continues to grow, balancing new music with legacy acts, and how they decide what music ends up on the radio.
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SOUNDON
The Money Trench is sponsored by SoundOn.
TIXEL
The Money Trench is sponsored by Tixel.
KEEP UP TO DATE
For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on:
Instagram: @the_money_trench
LinkedIn: The Money Trench
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Thanks to our partners
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Fourth Pillar
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Tape Notes
Executive Producer: Mike Walsh
Producer: Tape Notes - Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Martin Goldschmidt, founder of Cooking Vinyl.
Having been at the head of the physical-first label for 40 years, Martin shares how he found a sweet spot working with established artists and fanbases.
The pair discuss why physical media still works, why he believes the independent sector will always find a way, and the growing importance of catalogue. They also talk about 40 years of musical adventures with the likes of The Prodigy and Billy Bragg, plus why an anarcho-punk band forced him to buy a suit...
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SOUNDON
The Money Trench is sponsored by SoundOn.
TIXEL
The Money Trench is sponsored by Tixel.
KEEP UP TO DATE
For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on:
Instagram: @the_money_trench
LinkedIn: The Money Trench
Website: The Money Trench
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If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!
Thanks to our partners
SoundOn
Tixel
Earth/Percent
Tom A Smith
Deviate Digital
Fourth Pillar
Sennheiser
TYX Studios
Tape Notes
Executive Producer: Mike Walsh
Producer: Tape Notes - Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Alex Bruford, Agent and Co-Founder of ROAM.
After starting his career as a drummer and tour-managing around the world, Alex has transitioned to the booking agent side of the business with Reprise, ATC Live and now ROAM.
The pair discuss Fontaines DC’s latest landmark shows, Nick Cave’s record-breaking Brighton show, and the devastation of Brexit on touring.
NEWSLETTER
Sign up HERE for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music industry stories.
SOUNDON
The Money Trench is sponsored by SoundOn.
TIXEL
The Money Trench is sponsored by Tixel.
KEEP UP TO DATE
For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on:
Instagram: @the_money_trench
LinkedIn: The Money Trench
Website: The Money Trench
GET IN TOUCH
If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!
Thanks to our partners
SoundOn
Tixel
Earth/Percent
Tom A Smith
Deviate Digital
Fourth Pillar
Sennheiser
TYX Studios
Tape Notes
Executive Producer: Mike Walsh
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About The Money Trench - The Music Industry Podcast with Mark Sutherland
The Money Trench (TMT) is The Music Industry Podcast from presenter Mark Sutherland and exec producer Mike Walsh, produced by Tape Notes and supported by Sound On and Tixel. Each Monday, we will dissect the biggest music industry news stories of the previous week, in the company of one of the industry’s most influential executives. Followed by a deep dive into that exec’s career in music, including their thoughts on where we’re at and where we’re heading. Now, TMT is here to look at all sides of the music business and celebrate the most exciting industry on the planet. Don’t start your music week without it…
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