Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole]

In this episode of Cosmosis, Kelly and Jay sit down with someone who has become a true kindred spirit on their path: Daniel Noah, co-founder of SpectreVision, filmmaker, experiencer, and the creative force behind the new High Strangeness comic series.

This conversation moves through the deep waters where creativity, anomalous experience, and vocation meet. Daniel opens up about his lifelong relationship with horror and the supernatural, his unexpected awakening as an experiencer, and how that realization reshaped both his inner world and his creative life. He shares what it meant to come out publicly as an experiencer, the responsibility he now feels to others on the path, and why art—and vulnerability—are central to making sense of the anomalous.

Together, Kelly, Jay, and Daniel explore:


How SpectreVision grew from an indie genre studio into a multiformat home for creators working at the edges of experience


Why paranormal phenomena resist traditional narrative structure—and what that means for artists


The surprising synchronicities behind Daniel’s work on High Strangeness


Creativity as a channel for contact, transmission, and the “central source” John Keel wrote about


The emotional reality of being a public experiencer, and the mission that quietly forms around those called into this work


Daniel’s reflections on SpectreVision’s newest film, Rabbit Trap, and its unsettling, initiatory portrait of fairy loreYou’ll also hear about Kelly’s essay on synchronicity for issue #3 of High Strangeness, the story that changed the trajectory of her entire life, and how collaborative creativity has opened new doors for all three of them.

This is one of our most intimate and expansive conversations—an exploration of what happens when artists stop compartmentalizing the anomalous and instead allow it to shape their work, their worldview, and their calling.

Music for Cosmosis is by Michael Rubino. The show is brought to you by SpectreVision Radio.

Mentioned In This Episode:


SpectreVision: https://www.spectrevision.com/


High Strangeness: https://www.onipress.com/news/a3su3wb3ozg1t8irmrufkhju3fcfqr


Rabbit Trap: https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B0FMPYV1L6/ref=atv_dp_share_cu_r

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TIMESTAMPS

04:52 The Genesis of Specter Vision

09:11 Expanding Beyond Films: New Ventures

11:08 Daniel's Paranormal Experiences

17:39 The Impact of Sharing Paranormal Stories

20:17 The Role of Art in Understanding the Paranormal

30:21 Navigating Public Perception as an Experiencer

37:14 Balancing Creativity and Personal Experiences

42:40 Dinner with a Monk: A Creative Revelation

44:00 The Source of Creativity: Within or Without?

44:19 Powers of 10 and Infinite Perspectives

46:25 Channeling Creativity: Automatic Writing and Beyond

50:30 Specter Vision Network: Supporting Creative Minds

53:22 High Strangeness: The Comic Book Journey

01:00:05 Rabbit Trap: A Genre Film with Depth

01:05:33 Mantis Beings and Synchronicities

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In this special episode, recorded live at the International Remote Viewing Association Conference, Kelly and Jay sit down for an intimate fireside conversation on one of the most provocative questions in anomalous research: what connects remote viewing and the UFO phenomenon?

Bringing together two communities that rarely share a stage, they explore how both challenge the limits of consensus reality and reveal the deeper mysteries of consciousness. From the transpersonal nature of contact to the risks and revelations of psychic perception, the discussion dives into what happens when we stop looking up for answers and start looking within.

Along the way, they talk about creative integrity in anomalous storytelling, the role of imagination in perception, and why they believe that remote viewing may be one of the most grounded ways to approach the unknown. 

Music for Cosmosis is by Michael Rubino. The show is brought to you by SpectreVision Radio.

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TIMESTAMPS

04:04 Discussing Remote Viewing in Cosmosis

09:29 Importance of Independent Filmmaking

12:38 Remote Viewing and UFO Phenomenon

29:44 The Unique Training in Remote Viewing

30:36 Disclosure Discourse and Weasel Words

31:23 The Importance of Community in Remote Viewing

32:22 The Scientist's Influence on Paranormal Investigations

33:24 The Evolution of UFO Phenomena

34:20 The Role of Media and Culture in Shaping UFO Encounters

35:32 The Challenge of Understanding Non-Human Intelligence

36:40 Remote Viewing and Personal Experiences

41:08 The Potential of Remote Viewing for Communication

45:03 AI and Consciousness

47:42 Past Lives on Other Planets

51:21 The Mission of Cosmosis

54:21 Conclusion and Credits

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What happens when the search for truth leads you past the point of no return?

In the first episode of Cosmosis: Origins, Kelly and Jay step out of the studio and back into the field—returning to the places where their lives first collided with the unknown. Through moments of honesty and reflection, they revisit the experiences that shattered their understanding of reality and the friendship that was forged in the fire of shared initiation.

From childhood encounters with luminous beings to life-altering contact events in adulthood, Origins traces the unlikely path that brought them together—and the moral injuries, secrets, and strange grace that came in the aftermath. As they leave behind the noise of UFO discourse to follow the signal deep into the Ohio River Valley, they ask what it means to rebuild belief from the ruins of certainty.

This is where the next chapter of Cosmosis begins.Music for Cosmosis is by Michael Rubino. The show is brought to you by SpectreVision Radio.

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TIMESTAMPS

00:31 Childhood Encounters with the Unknown

06:39 The Power of Stories and Beliefs

08:52 A Life-Changing Experience

18:16 The Birth of the UFO Rabbit Hole Podcast

20:16 A New Friendship and Collaboration

26:21 A Dark Turn in 2023

29:42 Struggling with Silence and Truth

34:16 Moving Forward

35:22 Reconnecting in Appalachia

36:55 Discussing the UFO Discourse

41:35 Fieldwork and Personal Revelations

43:01 Window Areas

44:48 A Mother's Perspective

49:27 Accepting Anomalous Experiences

54:14 Embracing the Weirdness

59:01 Final Reflections and Cheers
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In this episode, Kelly and Jay recount an extraordinary night at the International Remote Viewing Association conference in Cloudcroft, New Mexico—one that began as a simple group experiment in spoon bending and ended with a display of unexplained aerial activity over the nearby White Sands Missile Range.

As dozens of participants focused their attention around a bonfire, cutlery softened and twisted in their hands—just as amber lights began moving across the desert sky in ways that defied conventional motion. The synchronicity between the two events raised unsettling questions about consciousness, matter, and the possible feedback loop between human intention and the phenomenon itself.

Kelly and Jay examine that night moment by moment, reflecting on its implications for remote viewing, psychokinesis, and the broader study of anomalous events. Along the way, they discuss:


The history of spoon bending and PK (psychokinesis) experiments, from Jack Houck’s “PK parties” to government research programs.


The atmosphere and experiments at the IRVA conference, including conversations with legendary remote viewers like Lyn Buchanan, Paul H. Smith, and Dale Graff


The simultaneous UAP activity observed near White Sands and its uncanny timing with the group’s collective experiment


How belief, skepticism, and shared attention can shape reality—and why documenting the anomalous is never just about evidence, but about participation.

This episode invites listeners to consider the possibility that consciousness is not a passive observer of the world—but an active participant in its unfolding.

Music for Cosmosis is by Michael Rubino. The show is brought to you by SpectreVision Radio.

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TIMESTAMPS

04:17 Post-IRVA Conference Reflections

06:00 Deep Dive into Remote Viewing

17:34 Spoon Bending Experience and Online Reactions

35:22 Reflecting on Subjective Realities

36:53 Experiencers and Intellectual Humility

38:29 The Private Nature of Extraordinary Moments

41:15 The Challenge of Filming Personal Experiences

52:45 Skepticism and UFO Phenomena

01:04:46 The Magic of Field Work

01:06:54 Upcoming Projects and Community Engagement

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In this special episode of Cosmosis, Kelly and Jay return from the International Remote Viewing Association Conference in Cloudcroft, New Mexico—where they spent a week immersed in the world of psychic espionage, anomalous perception, and frontier consciousness research. Surrounded by legends like Lyn Buchanan, Dale Graff, and Paul H. Smith, they were reminded of what drew them to this mystery in the first place: the humbling realization that reality is far stranger, and far more beautiful, than we imagine.

Recorded live at the IRVA conference, this episode features a captivating talk from Paul H. Smith, retired U.S. Army Major and one of the original remote viewers from the Stargate Program—America’s once-classified psychic espionage unit. Smith traces the deep and tangled relationship between UFOs and remote viewing, revealing how intelligence operatives and scientists like Ingo Swann, Hal Puthoff, and Pat Price used psychic perception to probe the mysteries of the phenomenon. From secret lunar targets and underground bases to the blurred boundary between consciousness and the unknown, Smith’s stories bridge Cold War history and the edges of human perception.

Whether you’re new to remote viewing or steeped in its lore, this episode offers a rare, firsthand perspective from one of the few who lived it.

Music for Cosmosis is by Michael Rubino. The show is brought to you by SpectreVision Radio.

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Resources & References


The Essential Guide to Remote Viewing: The Secret Military Remote Perception Skill Anyone Can Learn, Paul H. Smith:https://a.co/d/ge6aBnR


Reading the Enemy's Mind: Inside Star Gate, Paul H. Smith:https://a.co/d/gtWR9vv 

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TIMESTAMPS

03:35 Special Talk by Paul H. Smith

06:10 Remote Viewing and UFOs: Promises and Pitfalls

08:43 The Stargate Program: A Deep Dive

15:38 Military Remote Viewing Operations

17:24 Notable Figures in Remote Viewing and UFO Research

26:55 Pat Price's Alien Base Discoveries

28:36 Pat Price's Remote Viewing Accuracy

30:35 Discovering UFO Bases

32:53 Project 8024: Government Remote Viewing of UFOs

41:19 Challenges and Value of Remote Viewing

44:40 Remote Viewing the Moon

51:59 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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