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Welcome to the third episode of Think Deep! Season 2 – Deep Ocean Voices Around the World. Thanks for listening, and don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast.
In this episode, we head to the Indian Ocean, exploring its depths with special guests Sheena Talma and Dr Anthony Bernard. Sheena and Anthony share how they have been collaborating, developing new tools, and championing local capacity to help democratise deep-sea research in the western Indian Ocean, ensuring that people are part of the solution. They share their experiences exploring the deep ocean and learning what it takes to bring that knowledge into policy and management spaces.
If you’re keen to learn more about some of the topics discussed in this episode, check out the resources below:
Read more about Anthony’s work with deep-sea landers in these articles – Strengthening Capacity for Deep-Sea Research in the Global South (2025) & SAIAB supports deep-sea cruise to deepen offshore research capacity in South Africa (2023)

Learn more about Challenger 150 and Ocean Voices, two UN Ocean Decade-endorsed programmes that Sheena is involved with

Follow along with the excitement of the National Geographic and Rolex Perpetual Planet Ocean Expeditions grant that Sheena and Anthony discuss in the episode  

Dive into DOSI

About DOSI:
The Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative (DOSI) is a global network of experts working to integrate scientific and humanistic knowledge to inform deep-ocean policy, governance, and stewardship by engaging with policymakers, cultivating capacity and diplomacy, and creating community.
If you work in marine science or governance and are interested in sharing your expertise to inform and support the conservation and sustainable management of the deep ocean, join DOSI today.

Follow us on social media!
Instagram: @deepstewardship
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Think Deep! is produced by Elin Thomas (Communications Manager) and Michelle Guraieb (Host and Editor), with support from David Benjamin Sound. Thank you to our funders, Synchronicity Earth, for making this season possible.
Music: By the Ocean by Remember The Future
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Welcome to the next episode of Think Deep! Season 2 – Deep Ocean Voices Around the World. Thanks for listening, and if you enjoy this episode, remember to subscribe and leave us a rating.
In this episode, we’re diving deep into the Southwest Pacific, from the Cook Islands to Fiji, with special guests Alanna Matamaru Smith and Rufino Varea. Alanna and Rufino chat with Michelle about the realities of deep-sea exploration, governance and sustainable management in the region, from the impacts of climate change to the emerging deep-sea mining industry. They share their thoughts on how traditional knowledge is evolving with time and the importance of engaging in multilateral spaces, ensuring that the Pacific has a seat at the table of ocean stewardship.
If you’re keen to learn more about some of the topics discussed in this episode, check out the resources below:
Alanna and Rufino both work at the intersection of science, community and policy as Directors of local civil society organisations. Learn more about Te Ipukarea Society and the Pacific Islands Climate Action Network (PICAN) 

Alanna mentions that the Cook Islands are a 99.99% ocean state – find out how much deep sea is in your EEZ here 

Learn more about the Fiji Locally Managed Marine Area Network (FLMMA) for the sustainable management of qoliqoli (traditional fishing grounds) 

Championing tomorrow’s ocean change-makers – discover the Ocean Stewardship Award, established by DOSI co-founder Kristina Gjerde and awarded to Alanna earlier this year 

Dive into DOSI

About DOSI:
The Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative (DOSI) is a global network of experts working to integrate scientific and humanistic knowledge to inform deep-ocean policy, governance, and stewardship by engaging with policymakers, cultivating capacity and diplomacy, and creating community.
If you work in marine science or governance and are interested in sharing your expertise to inform and support the conservation and sustainable management of the deep ocean, join DOSI today.
Follow us on social media!
Instagram: @deepstewardship
Bluesky: @deepstewardship.bsky.social‬
Twitter/X: @deepstewardship
LinkedIn: Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative

Think Deep! is produced by Elin Thomas (Communications Manager) and Michelle Guraieb (Host and Editor), with support from David Benjamin Sound. Thank you to our funders, Synchronicity Earth, for making this season possible.
Music: By the Ocean by Remember The Future
Licensed from PremiumBeat using Standard License #7185897
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Welcome to the first episode of Season 2 of Think Deep! – Deep Ocean Voices Around the World. Thanks for listening, and be sure to subscribe and leave us a rating.
In this episode, we travel to the Northeast Pacific to explore the deep ocean between the west coast of Canada and Hawaii. Our special guests, Dr Cherisse Du Preez and Dr Sara Kahanamoku, share their stories and showcase how science and traditional knowledge weave together to tell the story of the deep ocean to inspire stewardship and engagement in the region.
If you’re keen to learn more about some of the topics discussed in this episode, check out the resources below:
Learn more about the NorthEast Pacific Deep-sea Exploration Project (NEPDEP) that Cherisse leads

Read the guidance document for working with Indigenous communities that Sara mentioned and learn more about best practices and guiding questions for reciprocal community-researcher partnerships – Kūlana Noiʻi 

Learn more about Motion 32 from the 2025 IUCN World Conservation Congress – Protecting seamounts and vulnerable marine ecosystems from destructive practices, and read the recommendations to the management of seamount ecosystems to the North Pacific Fisheries Commission (NPFC) produced as a result of the DOSI Seamount Science Summit

Deepen your knowledge of the region with the recent Challenger 150 review paper on the ‘State of deep-sea science and conservation in the Northeast Pacific: implications for policy and management’

Explore the Papahānaumokuākea National Marine Sanctuary  

Find out more about Cherisse’s cool career – People of the Ocean Decade: Dr. Cherisse Du Preez  

Dive into deep-ocean stewardship with DOSI 

About DOSI:
The Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative (DOSI) is a global network of experts working to integrate scientific and humanistic knowledge to inform deep-ocean policy, governance, and stewardship by engaging with policymakers, cultivating capacity and diplomacy, and creating community.
If you work in marine science or governance and are interested in sharing your expertise to inform and support the conservation and sustainable management of the deep ocean, join DOSI today.
Follow us on social media!
Instagram: @deepstewardship
Bluesky: @deepstewardship.bsky.social‬
Twitter/X: @deepstewardship
LinkedIn: Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative

Think Deep! is produced by Elin Thomas (Communications Manager) and Michelle Guraieb (Host and Editor), with support from David Benjamin Sound. Thank you to our funders, Synchronicity Earth, for making this season possible.
Music: By the Ocean by Remember The Future. Licensed from PremiumBeat using Standard License #7185897

8 regions. 16 special guests across 14 nations. One ocean. This is Think Deep! Season 2 – Deep-Ocean Voices Around the World.  
Join us as we uncover the unique deep-ocean challenges, opportunities and connections across different parts of our blue planet.
Enjoy this sneak peek, and keep an eye out for Episode 1, coming Monday, 7 September.

Music: By the Ocean by Remember The Future. Licensed from PremiumBeat using Standard License #7185897

Welcome to the season finale of Think Deep! and thanks for listening! If you enjoy this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave us a rating.

In this episode, we are wrapping up the season by reflecting on what we’ve learned and what still lies ahead, with the team behind the podcast. We’re debriefing about all the topics covered in this season and exploring the wider context of deep-ocean governance from the perspectives of three early-career researchers – Dr Elin Thomas, deep-sea scientist and DOSI’s Communication Manager; Eesha Rangani, public policy master student in the Global School of Policy and Strategy at UC San Diego; and Michelle Guraieb, oceanographer and host of Think Deep!

Check out the resources below and get involved in deep-ocean stewardship and governance today!
Join one of DOSI’s specialist Working Groups or overarching Task Forces – there’s something for everyone, and it’s a great way to get started in the science-policy space.

Get involved with YOUNGO (The Official Youth Constituency of the UNFCCC) and RINGO (Research and Independent Non-Governmental Organisations constituency to the UNFCCC) as Eesha suggested in the episode.

Check out the Ocean Discovery League website to find out more about their Accessing the Deep training and mentoring programme that Michelle mentioned.

Follow along with livestreams of deep-sea research and exploration in action with the Ocean Exploration Trust and Schmidt Ocean Institute – amazing resources that bring the deep ocean directly to you.
Subscribe to our weekly newsletter, the Deep-Sea Round-Up, for all the latest deep-sea research, news and opportunities.

Finally, if you’re looking for more podcasts about the deep sea or ocean governance, be sure to check out Negotiating the Ocean from the Australian National Centre for Ocean Resources and Security, for conversations with people from all over the world directly involved in international ocean negotiations, and The Deep-Sea Podcast for a punk take on the science with Dr Thom Linley and Professor Alan Jamieson!

About DOSI:
The Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative (DOSI) is a global network of experts working to integrate scientific and humanistic knowledge to inform deep-ocean policy, governance, and stewardship by engaging with policymakers, cultivating capacity and diplomacy, and creating community.
If you work in marine science or governance and are interested in sharing your expertise to inform and support the conservation and sustainable management of the deep ocean, join DOSI today.

Follow us on social media!
Instagram: @deepstewardship
Bluesky: @deepstewardship.bsky.social‬
Twitter/X: @deepstewardship
LinkedIn: Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative

Think Deep! is produced by Elin Thomas (Communications Manager) and Michelle Guraieb (Host and Editor), with support from David Benjamin Sound and Eesha Rangani.
Thank you to our funders, Arcadia, Synchronicity Earth, the Benioff Ocean Science Laboratory, and to the University of Southampton for their support.

Music: By the Ocean by Remember The Future
Licensed from PremiumBeat using Standard License #7185897