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"But Jesus Drank Wine" & Other Stories That Kept Us Stuck

Podcast "But Jesus Drank Wine" & Other Stories That Kept Us Stuck
Christy Osborne & Meade Shirley
Join Meade and Christy, two retired-over-drinkers turned freedom-from-alcohol coaches, as they explore all of the stories that kept them stuck in the nightly o...

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  • Ep. 119 Let Them… or Let HIM? A Biblical Take on Mel Robbins’ Viral Self-Help Theory
    JOIN THE BJDW COMMUNITY HERE! Mel Robbins’ Let Them philosophy has taken the self-help world by storm. But is it really the key to peace and freedom? Or is there something deeper—something better—that God calls us to instead? In today’s episode, we break down where Let Them aligns with biblical wisdom… and where it misses the mark. Through real-life experiences and scriptural truths, we explore why true peace doesn’t come from just “letting them” but from fully surrendering to Him. We also share how embracing God’s guidance—not just detachment—was the key to breaking free from alcohol and finding lasting transformation.  What You’ll Learn: Why secular self-help can only take you so far – Letting go sounds freeing, but true freedom comes from surrendering to God, not just stepping back. The danger of 'following your heart' – Culture says to trust your feelings, but Scripture reminds us that the heart can be deceptive (Jeremiah 17:9). How sobriety and faith intersect – Relying on mindset shifts alone can keep you stuck, while Jesus offers true renewal. Forgiveness vs. detachment – Instead of just cutting people loose, Jesus calls us to a higher standard: forgiveness, love, and grace. Navigating relationships through faith – Healthy boundaries and biblical grace can coexist—here’s how to strike that balance. If you’ve ever felt exhausted from trying to control people, situations, or outcomes—this episode is for you. True peace isn’t found in letting go… it’s found in letting Him lead. Press play, take a deep breath, and let’s dive in.   Note: The Let Them language was first attributed to Cassie Phillips. Christy’s Substack: Why Let Them Misses The Mark – And Letting God Lead Changes Everything Order Christy’s book now available! Love Life Sober, A 40 Day Alcohol Fast To Rediscover Your Joy, Improve Your Health and Renew Your Mind  Learn More about Coaching with Christy Learn More about Coaching with Meade Connect with us on Instagram! @imnotsoberimfree @lovelifesoberwithchristy @butjesusdrankwine  You can find this episode on YouTube HERE.  The creators, hosts, and producers of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, psychological or professional advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any communication on behalf of BJDW or otherwise to be a substitute for such. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed in any mention of and/or linked resources are those of the authors/owners of those resources and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast team or guests of the show.  
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  • Ep. 118 Jo Hargreaves | Attachment Theory, Faith, and Rewiring the Brain for Emotional Healing
    The Lent Fast Starts This Wednesday!!!! Get more information and join us here  Today we welcome Jo Hargreaves, a pastor, psychotherapist, writer, and speaker, to explore the intersection of faith, therapy, and mental health.  As the voice behind The Faith-Filled Therapist, Jo is passionate about integrating theology and therapy, scripture and neuroscience, and ensuring that God remains at the center of conversations about mental and emotional well-being. Jo shares powerful insights into attachment theory, nervous system regulation, and emotional resilience, explaining how our earliest experiences shape the way we connect with God and others.  She breaks down the science behind emotional regulation and how rewiring our brains through intentional practices can lead to lasting healing. Key takeaways from this episode include: Attachment theory helps explain our emotional responses and relational patterns. Nervous system regulation is essential for mental and emotional well-being. Compassion—both for ourselves and others—can transform our relationships. Faith and neuroscience are not in conflict; they beautifully complement each other. Self-reflection and a deeper understanding of our emotional patterns can lead to spiritual and psychological healing. Jesus offers a loving presence that creates safety, healing, and wholeness. Jo also speaks on compassion fatigue, especially for women who are constantly pouring into others. She emphasizes the importance of creating space for restoration and self-care, so we can continue to show up fully in our relationships. If you’ve ever wondered how mental health and faith intersect or how neuroscience and scripture can work together for personal transformation, this conversation is for you. Jo’s wisdom, warmth, and faith-filled perspective offer a fresh take on healing—one that blends science, therapy, and the unshakable truth of God’s love. Connect with Jo Hargreaves: Jo Hargreaves Therapy: https://johargreavestherapy.com/ Instagram: @TheFaithFilledTherapist Order Christy’s book now available! Love Life Sober, A 40 Day Alcohol Fast To Rediscover Your Joy, Improve Your Health and Renew Your Mind  Learn More about Coaching with Christy Learn More about Coaching with Meade https://meadehollandshirley.com/   Connect with us on Instagram! @imnotsoberimfree @lovelifesoberwithchristy @butjesusdrankwine   You can find this episode on YouTube HERE.   The creators, hosts, and producers of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, psychological or professional advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any communication on behalf of BJDW or otherwise to be a substitute for such. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed in any mention of and/or linked resources are those of the authors/owners of those resources and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast team or guests of the show.  
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  • Ep. 117 Brandi Babb | The Power of Somatic Practice in Sobriety and Beyond
    Join the Lent 40 Day Fast! More info right here! We start March 5th! Our friend Brandi Babb shares her powerful freedom-from-alcohol story—from her early days as a “good girl” who followed all the rules to confronting the painful realities of alcohol use disorder and the internal divide between her faith and her drinking. Brandi opens up about how her struggle with alcohol began at 21 and intensified after her father's passing. She reveals how alcohol slowly stole her sense of self, leading to a split life that masked deeper emotional wounds and feelings of shame. By learning to slow down and tune into her bodily sensations, Brandi discovered a new way to manage cravings and identify long-standing patterns born from trauma and discomfort. This practice of "orienting" herself in the present moment allowed her to reclaim control and gain clarity. Now alcohol-free for over six years, Brandi has transitioned into somatic coaching, using her personal experience to help others bridge the gap between emotional awareness and physical healing. In this episode, we explore how physical reactions to past injuries can manifest in unexpected ways and how reconnecting with our bodies is key to breaking unhealthy cycles.  Brandi’s story is a powerful reminder that recovery isn’t about erasing our past—it’s about embracing it with awareness, compassion, and a commitment to growth. If you’re ready to dive into deeper emotional healing and learn practical tools for managing cravings and anxiety, this episode is a must-listen. Bonus: Interested in learning more from Brandi? She’ll be joining the BJDW community on March 18th to lead a masterclass on using somatic practices to break free from alcohol. Join us here: butjesusdrankwine.com/community. You can also learn more about Brandi’s work here.  Order Christy’s book now available! Love Life Sober, A 40 Day Alcohol Fast To Rediscover Your Joy, Improve Your Health and Renew Your Mind  Learn More about Coaching with Christy https://www.lovelifesober.co.uk/   Learn More about Coaching with Meade   Connect with us on Instagram! @imnotsoberimfree @lovelifesoberwithchristy @butjesusdrankwine   You can find this episode on YouTube HERE.   The creators, hosts, and producers of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, psychological or professional advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any communication on behalf of BJDW or otherwise to be a substitute for such. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed in any mention of and/or linked resources are those of the authors/owners of those resources and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast team or guests of the show.  
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  • Ep. 116 Dr Lisa Stanton | Life Changing Lessons from Recovery
    Join the Lent 40 Day Fast! More info right here! We start March 5th! Content Warning:This episode references sensitive topics, including sexual assault and trauma. We recognize that these subjects may be difficult or triggering for some listeners. Please take care of yourself while listening. If you or someone you know is in need of support, please seek help from a trusted resource or helpline. Listener discretion is strongly advised. Today, we welcome Dr. Lisa Stanton to share her powerful testimony. Lisa opens up about her parents' amicable divorce left an emotional void she didn’t know how to process. On the outside, she appeared to have it all—private school, sports accolades, and academic success—but beneath the surface, she battled loneliness, perfectionism, and crippling social anxiety. Her struggle with alcohol began early, with an immediate pull toward problematic drinking, and was soon compounded by severe eating disorders. While excelling academically and professionally, she led a double life—outwardly achieving, inwardly unraveling. The weight of it all finally became unbearable during the pandemic, when she was faced with a choice: keep running or surrender. Lisa takes us through the moment she gave up control and turned back to faith, discovering a healing far deeper than she ever expected. She shares the daily practices that helped her break free from destructive cycles, the misconceptions about recovery she had to unlearn, and the profound peace that comes from living in alignment with God’s purpose. Her story is a testament to the fact that no one is too far gone, and that true healing—both physical and spiritual—is possible for anyone ready to surrender. If you've ever struggled with addiction, perfectionism, or feeling like you have to have it all together, this episode is for you. You can get Lisa's book "52 Life-Changing Lessons I Learned in Recovery: A Journey Towards Sobriety, Honesty, and Radical Forgiveness" right here. Join the conversation in our community at https://butjesusdrankwine.com/community.  Order Christy’s book now available! Love Life Sober, A 40 Day Alcohol Fast To Rediscover Your Joy, Improve Your Health and Renew Your Mind    Learn More about Coaching with Christy Learn More about Coaching with Meade Connect with us on Instagram! @imnotsoberimfree @lovelifesoberwithchristy @butjesusdrankwine You can find this episode on YouTube HERE.   The creators, hosts, and producers of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, psychological or professional advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any communication on behalf of BJDW or otherwise to be a substitute for such. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed in any mention of and/or linked resources are those of the authors/owners of those resources and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast team or guests of the show.  
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  • Ep. 115 Kori Leigh | From Rock Bottom to Redemption, Breaking Generational Patterns, and Rediscovering Who God Really Is
    JOIN THE BJDW COMMUNITY HERE! Disclaimer: This episode discusses topics including suicide and suicidal ideation, which may be distressing to some listeners. If you are experiencing emotional distress or feel unsafe, please know that help is available. If you are in immediate danger or need urgent support, call 911 (if in the United States) or your local emergency services immediately. For those in the United States, you can reach the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 988 (available 24 hours) or 1-800-273-8255. If you're located outside the United States, please consult your local crisis intervention resources or visit https://findahelpline.com for international hotline information. Your well-being matters, and you are not alone. Please consider seeking help from trusted friends, family, or mental health professionals if you need support. In this raw and vulnerable episode, Kori Leigh courageously shares her personal journey through addiction, recovery, and the rediscovery of faith. Kori’s story shatters the stereotypes of a dramatic "rock bottom"—revealing instead that her turning point was a quiet, insidious moment of clarity. Despite achieving outward success, she reached a point where the reality of an unmanageable relationship with alcohol became undeniable. Kori opens up about how childhood trauma and longstanding familial patterns contributed to her struggles with alcohol. Instead of remaining trapped in a cycle of self-destruction, she embarked on a transformative journey by embracing a 12-step program and turning to faith. Her commitment to sobriety has now spanned eight years, proving that freedom from alcohol is not about a single moment but about a continuous, intentional journey of healing. Reconnecting with God provided Kori with the courage to break generational cycles and embrace a life filled with hope and divine grace. Her story is a testament to the transformative power of faith, vulnerability, and self-examination, offering practical insights and heartfelt encouragement to anyone facing similar battles. Join us for an episode filled with honest reflections and uplifting encouragement as Kori Leigh’s journey reminds us that even in the darkest moments, there is a path to healing and a future filled with hope – and a sober life beyond our wildest dreams!  Join the conversation in our community at https://butjesusdrankwine.com/community.  Order Christy’s book now available! Love Life Sober, A 40 Day Alcohol Fast To Rediscover Your Joy, Improve Your Health and Renew Your Mind  Learn More about Coaching with Christy   Learn More about Coaching with Meade   Connect with us on Instagram! @imnotsoberimfree @lovelifesoberwithchristy @butjesusdrankwine   You can find this episode on YouTube HERE.   The creators, hosts, and producers of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, psychological or professional advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any communication on behalf of BJDW or otherwise to be a substitute for such. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed in any mention of and/or linked resources are those of the authors/owners of those resources and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast team or guests of the show.  
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Join Meade and Christy, two retired-over-drinkers turned freedom-from-alcohol coaches, as they explore all of the stories that kept them stuck in the nightly over-drinking cycle, including but certainly not limited to "But Jesus drank wine?" If you're looking for two Christian women who get real about how wine held them back and explore tricky questions about drinking (and beyond!) with grace, compassion, and zero judgment, this is the podcast for you.
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