What is Human Risk Management, really? And why is everyone so confused about it? In this third episode of Hackers & Humans, host Ross Lazerowitz sits down with Oz Alashe MBE, CEO of CybSafe and former UK Special Forces Lieutenant Colonel, to cut through the noise. They define HRM in a single sentence, explore why security awareness training doesn't actually change behavior, and discuss how organizations can use behavioral data and nudges to reduce risk in real time. From phishing simulations as power trips to GenAI misuse, Oz shares war stories about what goes wrong when tools are deployed poorly and what works when they're deployed right. They also tackle the growing terminology chaos around "workforce security" and why focusing on outcomes, not labels, is what matters. If you're trying to move beyond checkbox compliance and actually reduce human-driven cyber risk, this conversation is a must-listen.