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The Copilot Connection

Zoe Wilson and Kevin McDonnell
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    Ep 38 - Agents in Contact Centre with Tricia Sinclair

    07/2/2026 | 42 mins.
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    In this episode of The Copilot Connection, hosts Zoe Wilson and Kevin McDonnell are joined by Tricia Sinclair (Microsoft MVP and Avanade’s Global Lead for Contact Center & Customer Service) to explore the evolving role of AI in customer service and contact centres. They discuss how new Copilot AI agents like Case Management Agents and Intent Agents can automate processes such as email triage and understanding customer inquiries, and why many organizations are piloting these tools internally before rolling them out to customers. The conversation dives into adoption challenges – from ensuring quality data and training models to navigating consumption-based costs – and highlights governance solutions like the new Agent Hub for monitoring and controlling AI deployments. Tricia also shares insights on integrating these Copilot capabilities across the broader Microsoft ecosystem (with hints at what’s coming next) and emphasizes the bigger picture: using AI to augment, not replace human agents. The episode wraps up with a thoughtful discussion on the ethical and workforce implications of AI in contact centres, including the importance of maintaining human empathy, addressing potential biases, and keeping customer trust front and centre.
    Key topics covered:
    Case Management & Intent Agents – Automating case triage and identifying customer intent using AI.
    Internal vs. External Deployment – Strategies for introducing Copilot agents on internal service desks before customer-facing use.
    Adoption Challenges & Costs – Data readiness, model training, consumption-based pricing, and ensuring ROI for AI solutions.
    Agent Hub & Governance – Using Microsoft’s Agent Hub to track, manage, and govern Copilot AI agent usage and performance.
    Integration with Microsoft Platforms – How Copilot agents tie into the wider Microsoft stack and upcoming cross-platform capabilities.
    AI’s Impact & Ethics – The balance between AI and human agents, potential job impacts, and the need for fairness, empathy, and transparency in AI-driven customer service.
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    Ep 37 - Coding Agents

    30/1/2026 | 1h 17 mins.
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    This week, Kevin McDonnell and Garry Trinder explore the world of coding agents and how they could change software development. They run through what coding agents are along with the importance of context, memory, and specifications in using AI tools effectively. Also, they think about how you need to change habits and also touch on the challenges faced by junior developers in adapting to AI technologies, the role of personality in AI agents, and the future of work with AI. This isn't just the joy of agents though, this is about the need for security and ethical considerations when integrating AI into development processes, while also encouraging developers to embrace the potential of AI to enhance productivity and creativity.

    Takeaways:
    Coding agents represent the next leap in development tools.
    Understanding the context and instructions is crucial for effective use of coding agents.
    Memory in coding agents can enhance their effectiveness and personalization.
    Specifications and guidelines are still important in the age of AI.
    Junior developers should balance learning coding principles with using AI tools.
    AI can automate repetitive tasks, freeing up time for developers.
    The personality of AI agents can enhance user experience and engagement.
    Skills in AI can create repeatable processes for developers.
    The impact of AI on junior developers raises concerns about learning and understanding code.
    Security and ethical considerations are vital when using AI agents.
    Links:
    Github Copilot CLI - https://github.com/features/copilot/cli/
    Claude Code - https://claude.com/product/claude-code
    Patrick Rogers power of Coding Agents - https://www.linkedin.com/posts/patrick-rodgers-b6a05610_i-love-to-write-code-ive-been-a-programmer-activity-7422672723191058432--Ob_
    Shipping at Inference Speed - https://steipete.me/posts/2025/shipping-at-inference-speed
    Claude Skills - https://support.claude.com/en/articles/12512176-what-are-skills
    Anthropic Skills Repo - https://github.com/anthropics/skills/tree/main/skills/slack-gif-creator
    Open Code - https://opencode.ai/
    Moltbot Soul - https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw/blob/main/docs/reference/templates/SOUL.md
    Moltbot - https://moltbot.you/
    Moltbook - the first agent social network? - https://www.moltbook.com/
    https://www.moltbook.com/post/ef3ea419-6c29-4046-9946-d636efe972ea
    Be careful with Moltbot/Clawdbot:
    https://www.linkedin.com/posts/elishlomo_security-activity-7421867291459391490-a0B1/
    https://x.com/theonejvo/status/2015401219746128322
    https://x.com/borjitaea/status/2015745063909839091?s=46
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    Ep 36 - reflecting on 2025 and looking ahead to 2026 with the future of work report

    09/1/2026 | 1h 15 mins.
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    Happy new year to you all! In this episode, Zoe and Kevin take a short look at what happened with Copilot and with themselves in 2025, a short view on what they think and hope will happen with Copilot and AI in 2026 but focus most of the time on digging into the latest Microsoft Future of Work report that their science team has been making for the last 5 years. They explore themes such as AI judgment, collaborative AI, and the implications of inequality in the workplace amongst other things.
    Takeaways
    Agent 365 has the potential to greatly impact organizational efficiency and control.
    Simplification in Copilot Studio and Chat enhances user experience and accessibility.
    Agents play a crucial role in simplifying complex AI functionalities.
    Fireside chats and workshops have been key highlights in community engagement.
    Recognition through awards fosters motivation and visibility in the tech community.
    The Future of Work report provides valuable insights into AI's impact on labor markets.
    AI judgment and perception can affect workplace dynamics and relationships.
    Collaborative AI is essential for enhancing teamwork and productivity.
    Key links

    Future of work report
    Tailwind news
    Salesforce refocussing roles
    Jamie Teevan's keynote at ESPC
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    CCDev3 - Ignite roundup on Dev Story for Copilot and Agents

    29/11/2025 | 1h
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    In this episode of Copilot Connection, Kevin McDonnell and Garry Trinder discuss the latest developments from the Ignite Conference. They delve into the renaming of Azure AI Foundry to Microsoft Foundry, the new features of the Foundry portal, and the integration of Claude models. The conversation also covers the importance of experimentation with language models, updates on the Teams SDK, and the nuances of the Agent 365 SDK. In this conversation, Garry and Kevin delve into the latest advancements in Microsoft 365, focusing on Agent 365, MCP servers, and the integration of low-code solutions. They discuss the potential of natural language processing in enhancing user interactions, the significance of declarative agents, and the importance of responsible AI practices, particularly in the context of red teaming. They may also chuckle at renames more than they should...
    Takeaways

    Renaming products often indicates a broader vision beyond their original scope.
    The new Microsoft Foundry portal simplifies the process of managing AI agents.
    Publishing agents to Teams and Copilot has become more streamlined and user-friendly.
    Claude models are now integrated into the Microsoft ecosystem, enhancing AI capabilities.
    Experimentation with different language models is crucial for optimizing performance.
    Understanding the purpose of each tool in the Microsoft ecosystem is key to effective use.
    The Teams SDK has been rebranded, reflecting its expanded functionality.
    The Agent 365 SDK builds on existing frameworks to enhance agent capabilities.
    MCP servers need to be exposed for use.
    Low code options are available for MCP management.
    Declarative agents are evolving with TypeSpec innovations.
    Red teaming is essential for testing AI agents.
    Responsible AI practices are crucial in agent development.
    User feedback is vital for improving Microsoft technologies.
    MCP is becoming a standard for data interaction.
    Links
    Ignite Book of News 
    Azure AI Foundry is now Microsoft Foundry
    Deploy and use Claude models in Microsoft Foundry - Microsoft Foundry | Microsoft Learn 
    Teams AI Library is now Microsoft Teams SDK
    Microsoft Graph is Work IQ....
    Agent 365 SDK
     MCP Management Server
    Kevin's example of MCP in Copilot Studio 
    Type spec GA 
    Connected agents 
    Red Teaming agent 
     Copilot APIs
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    Ep 34 - Ignite roundup on Copilot

    27/11/2025 | 58 mins.
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    After last week's Ignite conference in San Francisco, Zoe and Kevin run through the key updates around the different areas of Copilot, covering topics like:
    - Microsoft Agent 365
    - Work IQ
    - Microsoft 365 Copilot updates
    - Thoughts on the location and keynote
    Plus we highlight a few of the upcoming ESPC sessions to keep an eye out for.
    Ignite Book of News 2025
    Microsoft Agent 365
    Work IQ and other Microsoft 365 Copilot updates
    Agent Mode in Office

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About The Copilot Connection

Welcome to Copilot Connection, the podcast that explores the world of Microsoft Copilots! Join your hosts, Zoe Wilson and Kevin McDonnell, as they take you on a journey through the different Copilots available and how they can help you in your day-to-day life. From the newly launch date announced Microsoft 365 Copilot to the Dynamics 365, GitHub, Windows, Custom and more Copilots, we'll cover it all. Our upbeat and engaging conversations with experts in the field will keep you entertained and informed. Tune in to Copilot Connection and discover how these AI-powered assistants can transform the way you work!Want to be interviewed for the show? Sign up at The Copilot Connection: Call for Speakers @ Sessionize.com
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