AI & I

Dan Shipper
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  • AI & I

    How Every Builds a Writing Team in the Age of AI

    18/03/2026 | 56 mins.
    Kate Lee has spent her career working with words—first as a literary agent, then in roles at Medium, WeWork, and Stripe. As Every’s editor in chief, she’s been the quiet force behind the newsletter for more than three years. 
    Lately, something has shifted in Kate’s work. After years of watching her colleague Dan Shipper evangelize AI from the front lines, Katie has started rewiring how she works and is integrating more and more AI tools in her work. 
    We had Kate on to talk about her career path from book deals to tech startups, what it really means to run a newsletter as a small team in the age of AI, and what she thinks the bottleneck to automating copyediting is. Plus: the story of pulling off reviews of two major model releases in 24 hours, and how she’s using her AI-powered browser to help her hire. 
    To hear more from Dan Shipper:
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    Timestamps
    0:01 – Introduction and Kate's early career as a literary agent
    4:45 – From book publishing to tech: Medium, WeWork, and Stripe Press
    12:00 – How Kate joined Every and what made the role click
    27:00 – What it's like to be a knowledge worker at the frontier of AI
    31:00 – The “aha” moment: using AI to manage hundreds of applicants
    36:24 – How Every's editorial team uses AI to enforce standards and train taste
    45:06 – Publishing two reviews of major model releases on the same day
    51:39 – What automating copy editing requires
    Links to resources mentioned in the episode:
    Proof: https://www.proofeditor.ai/
  • AI & I

    We Made a Document Editor Where Humans and AI Work Side by Side

    11/03/2026 | 44 mins.
    Every has unveiled a new product, built by CEO Dan Shipper. It's called Proof, a free, open-source, live collaborative document editor built for humans and AI agents to work in together. 

    Proof started as a Mac app designed to show the provenance of AI-written text—purple for AI, green for human. But when Shipper rebuilt it as a web app with real-time collaboration, something clicked. Suddenly, everyone at Every was using it for everything from planning docs, to creative writing and even daily to-do lists. The team realized they needed a lightweight space where their OpenClaw agents and humans could co-author documents and leave comments. 

    In this special episode, Shipper is joined by Every chief operating officer Brandon Gell, Cora general manager Kieran Klaassen, and head of growth Austin Tedesco to demo Proof live and share how it's changed the way they work. Brandon walks through a loop where his Codex agent writes a plan, Dan's personal Claw R2-C2 reviews it, and the humans just steer. Austin explains how he uses Proof to write a weekly food newsletter, texting ideas to his Claw on runs and watching an outline take shape. And Kieran makes the case that Proof's power is its lightness—just a link you can hand to any agent or colleague.

    The conversation covers what "agent native" means in practice, why AX (agent experience) matters as much as UX (user experience), what happens when 10 agents edit one document at the same time, and why some writing is now better read by an AI than a human.

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    Timestamps 
    00:02:00 — Introduction and the origin story of Proof
    00:07:24 — From Mac app to collaborative web editor
    00:09:00 — What makes Proof “agent native”
    00:14:30 — Live demo: watching an agent join and write inside a shared document
    00:20:51 — How Austin uses Proof for creative writing and food journalism
    00:24:30 — The challenge of multiple agents editing one document simultaneously
    00:26:48 — When AI-written docs are better read by agents than by humans
    00:29:30 — Brandon’s agent-to-agent collaboration loop
    00:37:09 — Proof as a lightweight scratchpad vs. existing tools like Notion and GitHub
    00:42:18 — Why Proof is open source and what that means for builders

    Links to resources mentioned in the episode:
    Proof Editor:⁠ https://proofeditor.ai⁠
    Proof GitHub repo (open source):⁠ https://github.com/EveryInc/proof⁠
    Every's compound engineering plugin:⁠ https://github.com/EveryInc/compound-engineering-plugin⁠
  • AI & I

    Meet the Slowest Startup Incubator in the World—Pumping Out Billion-dollar Companies

    04/03/2026 | 45 mins.
    Silicon Valley loves billion-dollar moonshots and AI darlings. Sam Gerstenzang and Dan Friedman are doing something different—they're starting medical spas and funeral homes.
    On this episode of AI & I, Dan Shipper sat down with Gerstenzang and Friedman, partners at Boulton and Watt, which they call the "world's slowest startup incubator." Their model: Come up with an idea, achieve five or 10 million dollars in revenue themselves, then hand it off to a CEO who can take it to the next stage. They've used this playbook to build Moxie, a Series C company that helps nurses open their own medical spas, now with 600-plus customers and a 200-person team globally. Their second company, Meadow Memorials, is a contemporary funeral home with no physical real estate. It has become the largest provider of funeral services in California.
    Both businesses launched right around the arrival of ChatGPT—and neither was built with AI in mind. So how are they thinking about AI inside companies where the core work isn't going to change? In this conversation, Gerstenzang and Friedman share how they built an AI agent called Matthew Bolton to power their customer discovery process, why synthetic customer calls completely failed for them, and why they believe you shouldn't give anyone credit for using AI.
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    Timestamps
    00:00:00 — Introduction and how Sam and Dan's paths first crossed
    00:01:40 — What it means to be “the world's slowest incubator”
    00:04:50 — Why Bolton and Watt runs companies to several million in revenue before handing off to a CEO
    00:07:30 — How specialization across the founding journey creates advantages
    00:10:40 — Building AI-durable businesses versus AI-native ones
    00:16:10 — How an AI agent transformed their customer discovery process
    00:19:30 — Where synthetic customer calls completely fail
    00:29:30 — Deploying AI inside established companies
    00:32:30 — Why newer projects see huge gains from AI while mature companies see 10 percent
    00:37:00 — A preview of what's next for Bolton and Watt
  • AI & I

    Meet the Student With No Teachers, No Homework—Just AI

    25/02/2026 | 53 mins.
    Depending on whom you ask, AI is either the best or worst thing that can happen to the next generation. The arguments come from educators, venture capitalists, op-ed writers, and anxious parents—but rarely from the young people in question. 

    On this episode of AI & I, Dan Shipper sat down with one: Alex Mathew, a 17-year-old high-school senior at Alpha High School in Austin, Texas. 

    Alpha School, a rapidly expanding network of kindergarten through grade 12 private schools, is not without controversy. Inside Alpha High School, there are no traditional teachers, all academic content is delivered through an AI-powered platform, and the adults in the classroom, known as “guides,” focus solely on supporting the students emotionally and keeping them motivated to learn. The students have two- to three-hour learning blocks every morning and spend the rest of the day going deep on a project in an area they care about, spanning art, sport, life skills, and entrepreneurship.

    Mathew’s project is a startup called Berry, built around an AI stuffed animal designed to help teenagers with their mental health. His vision is for teens to talk to the plushie for five to 10 minutes a day and, in the process, learn to recognize and cope with their problems in the right way. In this episode, Dan and Mathew talk about what a day at Alpha High looks like, what keeps students from cheating when AI is everywhere, and how Generation Z—people born between 1997–2012—really feels about college, social media, and books.  

    If you found this episode interesting, please like, subscribe, comment, and share! 

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    To hear more from Dan Shipper:
    Subscribe to Every: https://every.to/subscribe 
    Follow him on X: https://twitter.com/danshipper 

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    Timestamps:  
    00:00:00 – Start 
    00:01:30 – Introduction
    00:04:08 – A typical day inside Alpha High School
    00:06:54 – Why Alpha replaced teachers with “guides” focused on motivating students
    00:12:09 – Why Mathew doesn’t use AI to cheat, even though he could
    00:19:51 – Do ambitious teenagers care about going to college?
    00:25:12 – Mathew’s take on how Gen Z thinks about AI
    00:27:52 – How Mathew thinks about the effects of social media
    00:31:29 – Gen Z’s relationship with books and reading
    00:38:57 – Mathew ranks ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini, and Grok
    00:47:12 – Why Mathew is building Berry, an AI stuffed animal for teen mental health

    Links to resources mentioned in the episode:

    Alex Mathew: Alex Mathew (@alxmthew)
    More about Berry: https://berryplush.com/, Berry (@berryaiplushies)
  • AI & I

    OpenAI's Codex: This Model Is So Fast It Changes How You Code

    18/02/2026 | 46 mins.
    OpenAI’s hottest app isn’t ChatGPT—it’s Codex.

    In the last few weeks alone, the Codex team shipped a desktop app, GPT-5.3 Codex (a new flagship model), and Spark, the fastest coding model I’ve ever used. Usage has grown fivefold since January, and over a million people now use Codex weekly. Codex was also the app that OpenAI chose to run an ad for in the Super Bowl.

    Dan Shipper talked to Thibault Sottiaux, head of Codex, and Andrew Ambrosino, a member of technical staff who built the Codex app, for Every’s AI & I about what OpenAI is building and how they’re using it internally.

    If you found this episode interesting, please like, subscribe, comment, and share! 

    Want even more?
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    To hear more from Dan Shipper:
    Subscribe to Every: https://every.to/subscribe 
    Follow him on X: https://twitter.com/danshipper 

    Head to granola.ai/every and get 3 months free with the code EVERY.
    Timestamps:  
    00:00:00 - Start
    00:01:27 - Introduction 
    00:05:27 - OpenAI's evolving bet on its coding agent 
    00:09:42 - The choice to invest in a GUI (over a terminal) 
    00:20:38 - The AI workflows that the Codex team relies on to ship 
    00:26:45 - Teaching Codex how to read between the lines 
    00:28:45 - Building affordances for a lightening fast model 
    00:33:15 - Why speed is a dimension of intelligence 
    00:36:30 - Code review is the next bottleneck for coding agents 
    00:41:24 - How the Codex team positions against the competition 

    Links to resources mentioned in the episode:

    Thibault Sottiaux: Tibo (@thsottiaux)
    Andrew Ambrosino: Andrew Ambrosino (@ajambrosino)
    Every’s vibe check on everything the Codex team launched: OpenAI's Codex App Gains Ground on Claude Code, GPT-5.3 Codex—The 10x Engineer, Now More Fun at Parties, AI as Fast as Your Train of Thought

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About AI & I

Learn how the smartest people in the world are using AI to think, create, and relate. Each week I interview founders, filmmakers, writers, investors, and others about how they use AI tools like ChatGPT, Claude, and Midjourney in their work and in their lives. We screen-share through their historical chats and then experiment with AI live on the show. Join us to discover how AI is changing how we think about our world—and ourselves. For more essays, interviews, and experiments at the forefront of AI: https://every.to/chain-of-thought?sort=newest.
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