Keep the Channel Open

The poems in Abbie Kiefer's debut collection, Certain Shelter, are, in my reading, about aftermath. They are about grief and loss, whether that is the loss of the speaker's mother to cancer or her hometown's changing landscape. But they are also about change and rebirth, and both the anxiety and the possibility of an unknown future. In our conversation, Abbie and I talked about television as a touch point in her poems, how memory is layered, and how ephemerality is central to the human experience. Then for the second segment, we talked about doing things you're not good at.
(Recorded February 7, 2025)
Bonus Reading: Subscribers to the Likewise Media Patreon campaign can hear Abbie read her poem "I've Learned to Accept."
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Abbie Kiefer
Purchase Certain Shelter: Print (Portland, ME) | June Road Press (publisher)
Abbie Kiefer - Upcoming Events
Gee's Bend Quiltmakers
While I Yet Live
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Episode Credits:
Editing/Mixing: Mike Sakasegawa
Music: Podington Bear
Transcription: Shea Aguinaldo

The paintings in Marisa DeLuca's series Spectre document the changing urban landscape of the city she lives in—Oceanside, California—mourning spaces made ephemeral by the forces of gentrification. In our conversation we talked about the difference between painting and photography, how process affects the ontology of an art object, how audiences make meaning, and the intersection of art and activism. Then for the second segment, Marisa and I talked about spirit of place and the importance of the commons in communities.
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Marisa DeLuca
HereIn - Marisa DeLuca with Herein
San Diego Union-Tribune - Saving what was: Oceanside artist captures on canvas memories of her fast-changing city
Marisa DeLuca - E. G.
Dérive
Marisa DeLuca - Beloved
Marisa DeLuca - Or No Side
Marisa DeLuca - Keeper
Hauntology
Grant Kester
Artists in Solidarity
Jeanette Winterson
Save Our Heritage Organisation
The Whaley House Museum
Pollock-Krasner House
Jacques-Louis David - Portrait of Cooper Penrose
Marianela de la Hoz
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Episode Credits
Editing/Mixing: Mike Sakasegawa
Music: Podington Bear
Transcription: Shea Aguinaldo

In the wake of this year's election, I found myself feeling a lot of things, but most of all that what sustains us through difficult times is always relationships and community. So I reached out to some past guests of the show and invited them to share some updates about where they are, who they're connected to, and how they're thinking about their work right now. At the end of the episode, I close by sharing a clip from the latest episode of Hey, It's Me.
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Commonplace - Episode 86: Global Roll Call, Part 1
José Pablo Iriarte
Jennifer Baker
Lisa M. Robinson
Susan Rosenberg Jones
Gabrielle Bates
André Ramos-Woodard
Maggie Tokuda-Hall
Alanna Airitam
Alyssa Harad
David Naimon
Becky Senf
Amanda Marchand
Matthew Salesses
Rachel Zucker
Hey, It's Me - Episode 13: Bring Your Whole Self, Including Your Hopelessness
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Episode Credits
Editing/Mixing: Mike Sakasegawa
Music: Mike Sakasegawa
Transcription: Shea Aguinaldo

Perry Janes's debut poetry collection, Find Me When You're Ready, follows its speaker from childhood in Detroit to young adulthood in Los Angeles, a coming-of-age story in five acts, told through a series of lyric moments. The poems in this collection confront childhood sexual abuse and the story of what it means to be a man, ultimately reaching toward healing and love. In our conversation we talked about what poetry and prose do differently, how masculinity is presented in these poems, and why it was important to both include trauma but not dwell in it. For the second segment, we talked about attention and how hard it can be to focus.
(Recorded November 12, 2024)
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Perry Janes
Purchase Find Me When You're Ready: Book Soup (Los Angeles, CA) | The Book Catapult (San Diego, CA) | Bookshop.org
Natalie Eilbert - Indictus
Alexander Chee - How to Write an Autobiographical Novel
Peter Ho Davies
Linda Gregg - "We Manage Most When We Manage Small"
Monster (2023 film)
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Episode Credits
Editing/Mixing: Mike Sakasegawa
Music: Podington Bear
Transcription: Shea Aguinaldo

Writer Sarah Gailey returns to the show for a discussion about their new novella, Have You Eaten? This serialized story follows four young queer characters as they traverse an America in the process of collapse, taking care of each other along the way. In our conversation, Sarah and I talked about experimentation in fiction, vine-ripened tomatoes, cooking as an act of care, and what apocalypse means. Then for the second segment, we talked about why we re-recorded the second segment, sin-flattening and high-control groups, the necessity of interpersonal repair.
(Episode recorded September 27, 2024 and September 30, 2024)
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Sarah Gailey
Purchase Have You Eaten? (e-book): Kobo | Apple Books | Amazon
Sarah Gailey - "STET"
Keep the Channel Open - Episode 109: Sarah Gailey (When We Were Magic)
Sarah Gailey - "Stone Soup #24: Mending Sauce"
Sarah Gailey - "Pantry Cookies"
Sabrina Imbler - How Far the Light Reaches: A Life in Ten Sea Creatures
Transcript
Episode Credits
Editing/Mixing: Mike Sakasegawa
Music: Podington Bear
Transcription: Shea Aguinaldo