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Love is the Message: Dance, Music and Counterculture

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Love is the Message: Dance, Music and Counterculture
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    LITM Extra - Kiss Me Again: Arthur Russell pt.6 [excerpt]

    02/07/2026 | 16 mins.
    This is an excerpt from a patrons-only episode. To hear the full show, and dozens more like it, visit Patreon.com/LoveMessagePod to join.

    We made it: what started as a ten-minute conversation and became a six episode mini-series finally reaches it conclusion, with the 1978 release of Arthur Russell’s Kiss Me Again. Jeremy and Tim conclude the genealogy of this epic track, detailing it’s recording, dry runs in the club, how the record was sold to the punky Sire Records, and how the Arthur came to put together the players. Friend of the show Nicky Siano gets an extensive mention as the record's co-producer, and his club the Gallery plays host to its first outings. Tim and Jeremy compare notes on how Nicky’s aesthetic differed from David Mancuso’s, share the story of how Arthur came to begin dancing at the Gallery, and explore his queerness both in contact with the dance floor and with his friend and mentor Allen Ginsberg.
    Elsewhere in the episode the guys ruminate on soft rock, spend a bit longer talking minimalism, and detail Arthur’s ill-fated trip to Italy to join Le Orme…

    Tracklist:
    Nirosta Steel - Lost in Music
    Arthur Russell - Don’t Forget About Me
    Allen Ginsberg - CIA Dope Calypso
    Le Orme - Canzone D’Amore
    Arthur Russell - Oh Fernanda Why
    Barbara Pennington - Twenty Four Hours a Day
    Desmond Child and Rouge - The Night was Not
  • Love is the Message: Dance, Music and Counterculture

    Disorder? Post Punk 1979 pt.1

    18/06/2026 | 1h 31 mins.
    We’ve finally made it - the pivotal Post Punk year of 1979. Well, sort of. It wouldn’t be LITM without a little extra detail, so Jeremy and Tim cue up our arrival with a couple of tracks from ’78 for good measure. They talk Tom Robinson Band, Undertones and the Only Ones, exploring ‘dole queue rock’, everydayness and the limits of politically self-conscious music of the period. Later in the show they tuck into a couple of indie disco staples to examine emergent New Wave, de-masculination, Manchester and the Iron Lady. Finally, for the first time on the show, the guys spend time on perhaps the most iconic post punkers of all: Joy Division. 

    This is our last main feed episode for a little while - we'll be back in mid-August. Until then, why not become a Patron and explore our LITM Extra archive, featuring dozens of bonus shows?

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    www.loveisthemessagepod.co.uk
    Produced by Matt Huxley.

    Tracklist:
    Tom Robinson Band - Winter of ’79
    The Undertones - Teenage Kicks 
    The Only Ones - Another Girl, Another Planet
    Blondie - Heart of Glass
    Machine - There But for the Grace of God Go I
    The Cure - Boys Don’t Cry
    Joy Division - Disorder
  • Love is the Message: Dance, Music and Counterculture

    LITM Extra - The Flying Hearts: Arthur Russell pt.5 [excerpt]

    04/06/2026 | 12 mins.
    This is an excerpt from a patrons-only episode. To hear the full thing, plus dozens more like it, visit Patreon.com/LoveMessagePod.

    We continue our mini-series on Arthur Russell by turning to his mid-70s pop and folk work. Starting in the famous Poet’s Building in 1975, Tim and Jeremy explore life in the East Village, in particular the area’s poetry scene. They discuss the aesthetics of setting spoken word to music, stop by Ginsberg, and drop in some Tibetan Buddhist classes. Elsewhere in the episode we hear about a number of recording sessions at the Columbia Records studio, get haunted by the spectre of Dylan, and speculate on whether Arthur could have been the fourth Talking Head. Tim shares some demos from Arthur’s short-lived band the Flying Hearts, a version of Psycho Killer with punchy cello that didn’t make the final cut, and some Laraaji-ish keyboard noodlings.

    www.loveisthemessagepod.co.uk
    Patreon.com/LoveMessagePod
    Produced by Matt Huxley.

    Books:
    Philippe Bourgeois - In Search of Respect: Selling Crack in El Barrio

    Tracklist:
    Arthur Russell - Barefoot in New York
    William Carlos Williams - The Red Wheelbarrow
    Bright and Early - Apple to the Orange
    Arthur Russell - Nobody Wants a Lonely Heart
    Arthur Russell - I Couldn’t Say it to Your Face
    Arthur Russell - Reach One (with Two Fender Rhodes)
    Talking Heads - The Girls Want to be with the Girls
    Talking Heads - Psycho Killer (acoustic version)
    The Flying Hearts - Ballad of the Lights
    The Flying Hearts - What’s It Like
  • Love is the Message: Dance, Music and Counterculture

    The Mudd Club, An Intense Laboratory: Post Punk pt.5

    21/05/2026 | 1h 33 mins.
    In this episode we return to the Mudd Club, NYC’s ‘intense laboratory’ of cinema, performance, dance and music. We hear about how this new kind of club fused these various media in novel ways, both as a day-to-day scene hang out spot and a site of never-ending unusual parties (‘Rock’n’Roll Funeral Ball Extravaganza’ anyone?). Tim and Jeremy detail the movement of artists into the East Village in the late 70s, the Fluxus inspiration for the Club’s goings on, and throw a little light on another less well-remembered venue, Club 57.

    Elsewhere in the episode the guys talk about The Cure, Lou Reed, retromania and cable TV, whilst also spending a moment on the legacy of Anita Sarko, a much-loved DJ on the scene.

    Produced by Matt Huxley.
    Patreon.com/LoveMessagePod.
    Loveisthemessagepod.co.uk.

    Tracklist:
    Shrapnel - Combat Love
    Policeband - Mono
    The Cure - Killing an Arab
    Lou Reed - Vicious
    Bobby Freeman - Betty Lou Got a New Pair of Shoes
  • Love is the Message: Dance, Music and Counterculture

    LITM Extra - Instrumentals: Arthur Russell pt.4 [excerpt]

    07/05/2026 | 11 mins.
    This is an excerpt from a patrons-only episode. To hear the full thing, plus dozens more like it, visit Patreon.com/LoveMessagePod.

    We’re back on the tail of Arthur Russell this week, paying close attention to his piece Instrumentals. A large ensemble composition comprised of multiple musical cells and first premiered at The Kitchen while he was music director, this work expresses Arthur’s proximity to NYC’s post minimalist scene. Jeremy and Tim discuss the works of several of the more prominent composers of that world, including Steve Reich, La Monte Young and Philip Glass, discussing the merits and failures of minimalism and how Arthur’s music aligned and diverged. Elsewhere they spend time on Arthur’s close friend and collaborator Peter Gordon, spend a moment unpacking Postmodernism, attempt to give a very potted account of just and equal temperaments, and give the stage to Memphis rockers Big Star.

    www.loveisthemessagepod.co.uk
    Patreon.com/LoveMessagePod
    Produced by Matt Huxley.

    Tracklist:
    Arthur Russell - Hey! How Does Everybody Know
    Captain Beefheart - Dachau Blues
    Arthur Russell - Instrumentals (Live at the Kitchen)
    La Monte Young - The Well-Tuned Piano
    Steve Reich - Music for 18 Musicians
    Henry Flynt & Nova'Billy — Amphetamine Rhapsody
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About Love is the Message: Dance, Music and Counterculture
Love is the Message: Music, Dance & Counterculture is a new show from Tim Lawrence and Jeremy Gilbert, both of them authors, academics, DJs and dance party organisers. Tune in, Turn on and Get Down to in-depth discussion of the sonic, social and political legacies of radical movements from the 1960s to today. Starting with David Mancuso's NYC Loft parties, we’ll explore the countercultural sounds, scenes and ideas of the late 20th and early 21st centuries. ”There’s one big party going on all the time. Sometimes we get to tune into it.” The rest of the time there’s Love Is The Message.
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