Mind the Machine

• How Faith Can Lead in the Age of Artificial Intelligence

  In this episode of the Mind the Machine Podcast,, Cheryl Goodman sits down with Ali Llewellyn, former NASA leader, to explore one of the deepest questions of our time: how do faith and AI coexist?Together they unpack how artificial intelligence challenges spiritual identity, raises new moral questions, and redefines what it means to be human. Ali shares why she left NASA to pursue faith-driven innovation, how Gloo is building “flourishing AI,” and why the Church must engage in the AI era.Follow Mind the Machine Podcast:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mindthemachinepodcastTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mindthemachinepodcastWebsite: https://findgood.tech/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/findgood-tech/⸻Timestamps00:00 Introduction — cultural anxiety around AI and faith01:07 Guest intro: Allie Llewellyn, NASA to Gloo03:00 Why faith helps people navigate rapid change04:13 How AI differs from past innovations like the printing press05:42 AI and human identity: created in the image of God08:44 The moral danger of scale and moderation in technology10:13 Technology as transformation vs. transaction11:03 Can AI pray? What that question reveals about us13:22 Idolatry and the “killer app trap”15:30 Why demystifying AI matters — “It’s not magic, it’s math”17:51 Trust and truth in AI — the Church’s role in shaping it20:13 How faith communities are already using AI22:24 Can Scripture be represented accurately by AI?24:37 Open-source, private, and faith-aligned AI models26:27 Kingdom impact and values-aligned innovation28:06 Human flourishing and Gloo’s hackathon31:03 The era of “vibe coding” and collaborative creation33:34 Solopreneurship vs. community: the Church’s counter-culture36:01 Timeless truths, purpose, and human creativity38:00 Final reflections — no spectators in this movement39:20 Where to learn more

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• Why Bad Pricing Kills Great Products (with Marcos Rivera)

  How do you know if your pricing is right? Are you charging too little… or too much? In this episode of Mind the Machine Podcast, Cheryl sits down with Marcos Rivera, founder of Pricing I/O and author of Street Pricing, to explore the psychology behind pricing, confidence in your value, and how AI is reshaping business.Marcos shares timeless truths about pricing, why there’s no “magic number,” and how understanding customer psychology can unlock growth. From SaaS startups to established tech firms, his insights reveal how pricing connects directly to business survival and success.🔗 Learn more about Pricing I/O: https://www.pricingio.com/💼 Follow Marcos Rivera on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/pricingio/Follow Mind the Machine Podcast:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mindthemachinepodcastTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mindthemachinepodcastWebsite: https://findgood.tech/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/findgood-tech/00:00 – Why pricing is about confidence, not fear of rejection01:06 – Introduction of Marcos Rivera, CEO of Pricing I/O02:00 – Stop guessing: pricing as growth and opportunity05:02 – Understanding when “no” is about price vs. positioning06:01 – Marcos’ journey from the Bronx to pricing expert08:37 – Making pricing simple and human—no “magic number”10:40 – The psychology of paying and why credit cards work11:48 – Marcos on AI: tool vs. hysteria14:36 – Why no pricing can save a bad product16:00 – Growing Pricing I/O and focusing on SaaS/tech companies18:16 – Teaching clients to “fish” with pricing skills19:39 – Timeless truths: business still runs on trust20:50 – AI agents, pricing structures, and building trust30:52 – The future of Pricing I/O and dream clients34:37 – Good vs. bad client fits for pricing work36:04 – Marcos’ book Street Pricing and timeless lessons

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• PR vs AI: How Communicators Stay Relevant in a Zero-Click World

  In this episode of Mind the Machine Podcast, we sit down with Julie Wright, president and founder of Wright On Communications, to discuss how artificial intelligence is reshaping public relations. Julie explains the shift from traditional SEO to generative engine optimization (GEO), why “answer engines” are replacing search engines, and what this means for brands trying to be discovered online.She shares practical strategies for building visibility in an AI-driven world, the importance of credibility and trust, and how PR professionals can adapt to zero-click searches and AI summaries. We also explore broader issues of truth, trust, and journalism in the age of large language models, and what the future holds for young professionals entering the field.🔗 Learn more about Wright On Communications: https://wrightoncomm.com/💼 Follow Julie Wright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/julieawrightFollow Mind the Machine Podcast:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mindthemachinepodcastTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mindthemachinepodcastWebsite: https://findgood.tech/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/findgood-tech/00:00 Introduction: PR, AI, and the rise of GEO01:11 Julie Wright on how AI is changing public relations02:29 From transactional marketing to relational AI visibility04:57 Generative Engine Optimization vs SEO07:22 Zero-click searches, earned media, and AI citations10:35 Answer engines, Perplexity, and Pro Rata AI13:26 Truth, trust, and the risks of manipulating AI17:09 Hallucinations, citations, and the limits of AI reliability20:55 Fear, anxiety, and the role of relationships in PR24:44 Building relational equity in the AI era27:37 White paper insights: how to influence LLMs30:59 Practical ways to raise visibility in AI platforms34:33 Press releases, syndication, and evolving PR tools39:55 Favorite tools, ChatGPT, and hopes for the future of AI at work43:24 Wrapping up: PR’s future and the state of the industry

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• How Aytekin Tank Built an AI-Ready Company Before the AI Boom

  Aytekin Tank, CEO of Jotform, has been thinking about automation for nearly 20 years—long before the current wave of AI tools. In this episode of Mind the Machine Podcast, he shares how his early ideas about productivity and workflow design laid the foundation for his company to integrate AI in a meaningful way.We explore the rise of AI agents, how customer service is changing, and what most businesses still get wrong about automation. Aytekin also talks about his personal journey as a founder, what he wishes more people understood about time management, and why the ability to recognize greatness might matter more than being an expert.Whether you’re a startup founder, an AI builder, or someone trying to future-proof your career, this conversation is packed with timeless insights.🔗 Learn more about Jotform: https://www.jotform.com💼 Follow Aytekin Tank on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aytekintank/🔗 Learn more about Accenture: https://www.accenture.com💼 Follow Andrea Yoder Clark on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreayoderclark/Follow Mind the Machine Podcast:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mindthemachinepodcastTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mindthemachinepodcastWebsite: https://findgood.tech/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/findgood-tech/Timestamps:00:00 — The 4 big technology revolutions Aytekin has witnessed01:34 — What Jotform really solves (it’s not just forms)04:13 — How Jotform is turning forms into AI-powered experiences06:20 — From 25% to 75% resolution: using AI in customer support10:11 — AI + human = better customer service13:12 — Aytekin’s book on automation became unexpectedly relevant14:43 — The automation flywheel and how to apply it18:14 — Why AI agents are the future of productivity22:04 — How Aytekin uses AI for personal research31:07 — Why AI is like a dragon—and why you have to tame it

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• You Don’t Need to Be a Coder to Win with AI

  In this episode of Mind the Machine, Cheryl sits down with Dr. Andrea Yoder Clark of Accenture to explore how small and medium-sized businesses can harness the power of AI agents for real productivity gains—ethically. They break down what AI agents actually are, how they’re reshaping industries, and why now is the moment for companies of all sizes to lean into automation.Dr. Yoder Clark unpacks the hype from the reality, shares must-know strategies for data safety and responsible AI, and explains why integrity, critical thinking, and creativity are the leadership skills of the AI era. Whether you’re a founder, executive, or just AI-curious, this conversation will give you uncommon insights into the future of ethical, human-centered innovation.🔗 Learn more about Accenture: https://www.accenture.com💼 Follow Andrea Yoder Clark on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreayoderclark/Follow Mind the Machine Podcast:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mindthemachinepodcastTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mindthemachinepodcastWebsite: https://findgood.tech/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/findgood-tech/Timestamps:00:00 – Why small businesses should invest in AI agents01:18 – What an AI agent actually is (and use cases)03:06 – Why now is the right time for SMB automation04:00 – Advice for young entrepreneurs in AI06:00 – AI and efficiency: how to think about impact08:57 – Key differences between small and large businesses using AI11:42 – How to handle AI hype and build trust14:05 – Tech for good: ethical must-haves for startups17:40 – Andrea’s view on the future of AI: hopeful but cautious21:27 – Confidential compute and why it matters25:01 – Data protection, governance, and bias prevention29:23 – Startups and the massive opportunity in ethical AI32:18 – Andrea’s personal story of resilience and purpose36:07 – What makes a great AI leader today40:11 – Why we can’t yet grasp how AI will change everything42:48 – Her advice for making a meaningful impact in the AI era45:35 – Small language models and the power of personalized AI

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