See See by Ceci

In this episode of See See by Ceci, we're joined by Vikram Patel, global mental health leader, psychiatrist, and the Paul Farmer Professor and Chair of the Department of Global Health and Social Medicine at Harvard Medical School. He confronts a contradiction at the heart of the twenty-first-century mind: why mental health is declining in the wealthiest nations, with record resources at hand, while some of the most effective solutions are emerging from communities that have almost none.
In this wide-ranging conversation, Professor Patel walks us through what he calls the great mental health paradox and its two roots: a reductionist system that answers suffering with a prescription, and an individualism in which "disconnection is like a virus." He traces the asylum and the diagnostic manual; fifty years and tens of billions of dollars that have yielded no biomarker and no new drugs; the loneliness epidemic; the grip of poverty and inequality; and India's rise in youth suicide. Then comes his own answer: the community health worker, most often a woman, most often unpaid, trained to deliver a six-session treatment that cured two-thirds of people with severe depression and kept well years on.
With reflections from criminologist Stephen Schoenthaler, neuroscientists Rudolph Tanzi and John Cryan, jazz drummer Terri Lyne Carrington, writer Andrew Solomon, psychiatrist Richard Mollica, philosophers Paul Thagard and Stephen Cave, choreographer Alexander Whitley, sixteen-year-old activist Alexander Schmitz of Young Minds for Global Health, and three-Michelin-starred chef Eric Vildgaard, the episode gathers voices you would rarely find in one room. How minds this different meet on common ground is what we leave for the listening to reveal.
This episode is about a scientist fluent in the resources of both the biomedical clinic and the community's own healing knowledge, and about the richness of a simple truth he keeps returning to, that what makes a life well is connection, and who reminds us that when it comes to mental health, we are all developing nations. Above all, this conversation is about the most quietly radical proposition medicine can make: that the cure for much of our suffering is not somewhere out of reach, but near at hand, in the bonds we build between us.
*Vikram Patel is the Paul Farmer Professor and Chair of Global Health and Social Medicine at Harvard Medical School. He co-founded Sangath, the Indian NGO honored with WHO and MacArthur awards, has co-led two Lancet Commissions on global mental health, and is a member of the US National Academy of Medicine. His honors include the Pardes Humanitarian Prize, an Honorary OBE, the Canada Gairdner Global Health Award, and a place on Time's 100 most influential people (2015).

In this episode of See See by Ceci, Dr Stephen Cave, philosopher of technology, intelligence and the human quest to outlive death, joins us in our Berlin studio. At heart, this episode turns on two questions most of us would sooner leave undisturbed: why do human beings insist on ranking one another, and why can we not make our peace with the fact that we die?
Academic Director of the Leverhulme Centre for the Future of Intelligence and Co-Director of the Institute for Technology and Humanity, both at the University of Cambridge, Dr Cave took his PhD in philosophy at Cambridge before spending the better part of a decade as a British Foreign Office diplomat. He is the author of Immortality: The Quest to Live Forever and How It Drives Civilization, a New Scientist Book of the Year, and, with the philosopher John Martin Fischer, Should You Choose to Live Forever?: A Debate. He is also co-editor of AI Narratives, Imagining AI and Feminist AI, all published by Oxford University Press.
In this wide-ranging conversation, Dr Cave traces the idea of "intelligence" across two and a half thousand years, from Aristotle's "natural slaves" to Francis Galton's invention of both eugenics and the IQ test, showing how so slender a concept came to serve as the perfect instrument for justifying patriarchy, colonialism and scientific racism. It is precisely this buried history, he argues, that explains the dread super-intelligent machines now inspire in us. The real peril, he suggests, lies not in what artificial intelligence might do to us, but in the deep-seated biases and failings already entrenched our societies, that is, in what we might be tempted to do to one another with it: in surveillance, in the automation of labour, and, above all, in the quiet erosion of the human relationships that hold a society together and lend our lives their meaning.
He then turns to mortality: the four stories every civilisation tells itself to outwit death, why a genuine immortality would prove a curse rather than a gift, and how our very finitude is the thing that makes a life worth living. From the Epic of Gilgamesh to Borges's deathless troglodytes, from Dorian Gray to the laboratories where great fortunes are now spent in pursuit of longer life, he asks what such a life is truly worth if it is not also a life of meaning, and warns that "work, scroll, repeat" is no less hollow at two hundred than at eighty.
He arrives, in the end, at something disarmingly simple: an answer that has rather less to do with intelligence than we might expect, and everything to do with finitude, and with what, and whom, a life is spent upon.
With reflections from the philosopher and cognitive scientist Paul Thagard on whether a machine can ever truly care; from the posthumanist scholar N. Katherine Hayles on the human aura in the age of the deep fake and the promised revision of the Enlightenment; from the drummer, composer and Berklee professor Terri Lyne Carrington on music and the eternal present; from the historian Philip Matyszak on the Roman afterlife and the building of "moral muscles"; and from the cognitive neuropsychologist Alfonso Caramazza on the remarkable flexibility of the human mind.
This is an episode about power and the stories it tells to justify itself; about the older stories we tell to cheat death; and about a quiet, radical proposition: that to be human is not to be the cleverest thing in the room, but to know that our days are numbered, and to spend them building and delighting in our bonds with one another.

In this episode of See See by Ceci, Rudolph Tanzi, one of the world’s most influential neuroscientists, takes us inside the mind as it builds, and as it begins to come undone. Joseph P. and Rose F. Kennedy Professor of Neurology at Harvard Medical School, director of the Genetics and Aging Research Unit and co-director of the McCance Center for Brain Health at Massachusetts General Hospital, co-founder of the Cure Alzheimer’s Fund, and named by TIME one of the 100 most influential people in the world, Tanzi co-discovered the very first Alzheimer’s genes and helped create the groundbreaking “Alzheimer’s in a Dish” model that has transformed the search for a cure.
In this luminous and deeply human conversation, Tanzi traces the disease from its first description by Alois Alzheimer in 1906 (the strange plaques and tangles no one believed could cause a mind to slip away), to the golden age of treatment now within reach. He walks us through the three pathologies of plaques, tangles and inflammation; the genes he discovered and the blood test that can now see the disease coming; the brain’s housekeeper cells, the microglia, and their Macbeth-like turn from caretakers to killers; and the kitchen-sink logic of the drugs his lab is racing to trials: turn off the tap, unclog the drain, stop the overflow. He shares SHIELD, his lifestyle plan for brain health, and the gut–brain axis that lets food become medicine for the mind.
And then the conversation goes deep. Tanzi reflects on memory as a tapestry woven from a hundred billion neurons; on the hippocampus, the little seahorse that gives the world its context; on why music memory survives when almost everything else is gone. He speaks, with rare openness, about awareness and the self, about lucid dreaming and terminal lucidity, about the feelings of beauty, awe and love that he believes AI may mimic but never be, and finally about his conviction that everything is, ultimately, consciousness.
Along the way we hear neuroscientist John Cryan on the gut microbiome and the food that feeds the brain; Cognitive neuropsychologist and Harvard Professor Alfonso Caramazza on prosopagnosia and the emotion that endures when recognition fails; four-time Grammy winner Terri Lyne Carrington and the documentary Alive Inside; photographer Domingo Milella on water, minerals and the camera obscura; parapsychology researcher Dean Radin on the taboo edges of mind; and a chorus of artists, Gregory Halpern, Marina Viotti, Andrei Ioniță, Cecilia Rivera and Kerem Hassan, on creativity, flow, and the blurring of time and space, a current that runs through Tanzi himself, a prolific musician who has recorded and performed with the likes of Aerosmith, Joe Perry and Johnny Depp.
This is an episode about a terrifying disease, and about the relentless creativity, courage and compassion working to defeat it. About what memory is, what the self is, and what remains when both are taken. And about a scientist who insists, against one of the cruellest diseases of our time, now assures us: "I'm seeing the light at the end of the tunnel."

In this episode of See See by Ceci, N. Katherine Hayles, Distinguished Research Professor at UCLA, James B. Duke Professor Emerita at Duke, Guggenheim Fellow and member of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, joins us from the rare crossroads at which she has worked for forty years: literature, science, technology and, now, artificial intelligence. Trained as a chemist at Rochester and Caltech before crossing into literary scholarship, she is a foremost authority on the relations between literature and computational media, and the author of How We Became Posthuman (1999) and, most recently, Bacteria to AI: Human Futures with our Nonhuman Symbionts (University of Chicago Press, 2025).
In this rich and demanding conversation, Hayles redefines cognition as the interpretation of information in contexts that connect with meaning, a capacity she ascribes to bacteria, plants, fungi, animals and, increasingly, AI. She walks us through her integrated cognitive framework and the SIRAL criteria (sensing, interpreting, responding adaptively, anticipating, learning); through von Uexküll's umwelt, the world each species spins for itself; through cognitive assemblages in which humans, microbes and machines decide together; and through her sharp distinction between actors and agents. As a literary critic, she also turns her gaze on AI-produced literature, on hallucinations as imagination, and on Walter Benjamin's aura in the age of the deep fake.
With reflections from neuroscientist John Cryan on the gut microbiome, historian Richard Bourke on the Kantian self, classicist Richard P. Martin on AI and imagination, and choreographer Alexander Whitley on embodiment.
This is an episode about the uncoupling of cognition from consciousness, Hayles' most crucial move. About a posthuman in which the human itself is being rewritten. And about the very determined optimism of a thinker who insists that hope is not the reward at the end of the work, but the precondition for it.
N. Katherine Hayles is the author of twelve influential books, including the landmark How We Became Posthuman, widely regarded as a seminal foundation for posthumanism, My Mother Was a Computer: Digital Subjects and Literary Texts (2005), Unthought: The Power of the Cognitive Nonconscious (2017), and her latest, Bacteria to AI: Human Futures with our Nonhuman Symbionts (University of Chicago Press, 2025). A member of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and recipient of fellowships from the Guggenheim Foundation, the National Endowment for the Humanities, and the Rockefeller Foundation, Hayles has transformed our understanding of the digital age.

In this episode of See See by Ceci, Toby Kiers, one of the world's most daring thinkers at the intersection of evolutionary biology, economics and ecology, takes us into the living web beneath our feet.
University Research Chair and Professor of Evolutionary Biology at Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam, Tyler Prize laureate, MacArthur "genius" Fellow, Spinoza Prize winner and co-founder of SPUN, the Society for the Protection of Underground Networks, Kiers has spent more than two decades asking the questions most of us never think to pose: How does a brainless organism make decisions? and, What is it like to be a fungus?
In this rich and revelatory conversation, Kiers reflects on symbiosis as the hidden driver of evolution, from the first algae crawling onto land 450 million years ago to a soybean root in a Dutch laboratory today; on cheating as a force of innovation rather than a moral failure; on the exquisite sensitivity of fungal networks that respond to vibration, breath and light; on sanctions that are swift, severe and ingenious; on what she calls "punk science", research that crosses disciplines and refuses to accept the world as given; and on the humbling moment in Ecuador when members of the Sarayaku community listened to her describe her findings and replied: Of course this is happening. We knew this! This is part of our belief!
She tells us about her team, the "underground astronauts" mapping the world beneath our feet, and about fungi as a "library of solutions" for a planet in crisis: a circulatory system that processes some 13 billion tons of carbon each year, roughly a third of all fossil fuel emissions.
Along the way, we hear former Harvard neurosurgeon Dr. Eben Alexander pose a question on the Cambrian explosion and evolutionary partnerships; we hear from Professor Katherine Hayles on the Umwelt, on actors and agents, and the uncoupling of consciousness from cognition; from ecologist Carl Safina on the cooperation between dolphins and fishermen and the worm's first aesthetic judgement; and from choreographer Alexander Whitley on the flow states that technology can both disrupt and reveal, each voice opening a new dimension of what it means to sense, to decide, and to belong on a living planet.
This is an episode about the wonder beneath the soil: biological, strategic and ancient, namely the circulatory system that connects all life on earth. About the courageous shift in mindset to acknowledge the ground we walk on not as inert matter but as intelligent beings, capable of supporting universes above their own.