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Jaime Hoerricks, PhD
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    Sunday Mornings with Jaime & Cathy: The Whole Arrives First

    21/06/2026 | 33 mins.
    Attunement is not a warm-up to the real work. It is the work: the room prepared, the parent heard, the script honoured, the story given first, and the child met before the system measures them.
    I came into this conversation already flooded.
    Thirteen graduations. Thirteen young people I had known not as caseload numbers, not as IEP files, not as instructional problems to be remediated, but as whole lives moving through school toward the edge of adulthood. Four years, some four and a half, with them and their families—and then, suddenly, the container closes. They cross the stage. They leave. The work does what it was meant to do, which is also what makes it hurt.
    That was where Cathy and I began, though I do not think we knew yet that it was the centre of the whole conversation. Attunement was not the topic beside the grief. It was the reason the grief had weight.
    Because the leaving only hurts like that when something real has been built.
    Cathy spoke about the Speech Den—not as a clinic, not really, and the distinction matters—but as a held space, a prepared ecology, a place arranged before the child arrives so that the child can enter into recognition rather than assessment. The lights may already be softened. The curtains may already be drawn. The yoga ball, the Hot Wheels, the Play-Doh, the particular sensory route into the room may already be there—not because the child has been managed in advance, but because someone has bothered to ask what kind of world the child can enter without first having to defend herself from it.
    That is not decoration.
    That is method.
    And I know this from my own classroom, because my students do not enter mathematics as a sequence of isolated procedures waiting to be mastered. They enter the whole of it first. They feel the room, the task, the adult, the pacing, the demand, the possibility of humiliation, the absence or presence of coherence. They know, before they know in words, whether they can locate themselves there.
    This is where I keep finding myself in conflict with the dominant instructional imagination, especially in mathematics. The system wants the part first. The worksheet first. The discrete skill first. The “what do you notice, what do you wonder” ritual performed as though a child can wonder inside a field that has not yet become meaningful. But for many of my students, the part cannot be worked with until it belongs to something larger. The unit circle has to become a world before the points on it become usable. Function transformations have to become music, movement, signal, pitch, a mixer board, a beat altered and returned. Probability has to become weather, certainty, the sun rising tomorrow, Peppa Pig serving tea, the scale between impossible and almost impossible and nearly guaranteed.
    The story is not a hook.
    The story is the structure that lets the mathematics stay.
    So when I think about attunement, I am not thinking about niceness. I am not thinking about being emotionally available in some vague therapeutic sense. I am thinking about the precise, practical knowledge that allows an educator or therapist to know which bridge can actually hold this person’s weight. A student who wants to become a producer does not need a generic explanation of function notation. He needs to understand that the board in front of him is already a function machine. Input. Transformation. Output. Now the mathematics has somewhere to land.
    That is the whole intervention, in one sense.
    Give them the whole of it first.
    Then they can work.
    Cathy and I also kept circling back to parents, and this may be one of the places where the professional world most badly misunderstands itself. The moment a therapist, teacher, tutor, case manager, or assessor enters the room, power enters with them. It does not matter how kind we are. It does not matter how much we dislike hierarchy. The role arrives before the relationship does. Parents know this. Parents who have spent years being told what their child cannot do know this in their bodies.
    So attunement with families is not an optional relational extra. It is how we dismantle enough of the role to make the work possible.
    Parents carry the continuity we do not have. They know the child in the car, in the kitchen, in the exhausted hour after school when all the “progress” falls apart. They know the home language, the sensory atmosphere, the unrecorded strengths, the family scripts, the cultural constraints, the sibling patterns, the things no rating scale ever quite asks. Sometimes the file says specific learning disability, and then, buried somewhere in the history, a sibling is autistic. A male sibling, usually. And the student in front of me is a girl who can chit-chat, who can perform enough social fluency to disappear from the diagnostic imagination, whilst the architecture of her meaning-making is sitting there in plain sight.
    So I ask different questions.
    Not only what are her scores, but how does language move through the home? What language does the family dream in? What is the memory space made of? What happens when academic English has to be hung on a home language that was never allowed to develop academically because the school treated English as the only serious site of learning? What happens when we call the difficulty the wrong thing, and then build every intervention on top of the wrong name?
    There is no coherence without the right ecology.
    There is no access without the bridge.
    One of the most revealing moments came when Cathy described how much she now relies on scripts: scripts for reports, scripts for schools, scripts for difficult conversations, scripts for language that has had to become more careful as her practice has changed. She wondered aloud whether everyone rehearses conversations in that level of detail.
    I laughed, because of course I did.
    Tell me you are a gestalt processor without telling me you are a gestalt processor.
    But the joke matters because scripts are so often misunderstood. They are treated as childish, rigid, artificial, something to fade or replace with spontaneous language. But scripts are not the opposite of authentic communication. For many of us, scripts are how we build enough safety to enter the unscripted world. They are not failure. They are preparation. They are pattern. They are a way of carrying coherence into a situation that might otherwise arrive too fast, too fragmented, too socially dangerous to survive without rehearsal.
    And the scripts do not disappear when we get older.
    They become more complex.
    The ending of the conversation turned, almost inevitably, toward standardised testing, because that is where so much of the violence becomes measurable. Adaptive platforms claim to know what a student can do. They present a question, wait for a response, and interpret delay as deficiency. But for a gestalt processor, a pause may not mean not knowing. It may mean reorientation. It may mean building the script library required for an unfamiliar problem. It may mean recovering from a sudden change of subject, regulating panic, locating the relevant field, finding the whole before touching the part.
    The test does not see any of that.
    It sees time.
    It sees hesitation.
    It lowers the level.
    And once it lowers the level, it may never rise back up.
    By the end of the testing session, a student who can work with calculus may be receiving kindergarten questions, because the system has confused processing ecology with ability. Then that score becomes placement. Then placement becomes remediation. Then remediation becomes time lost, confidence lost, college delayed, a future narrowed by a machine that never understood what it was measuring.
    This is why I build scripts before testing season. The sum of all probabilities is one. Say it with me. The sum of all probabilities is one. Not because I have taught them probability in any full formal sense, but because I can give them a phrase to hold when panic begins to eat the room. I can give them one small piece of coherence that might keep them from falling through the floor of the test.
    That is what attunement makes possible.
    It lets us know what will actually help.
    Not what the protocol says should help. Not what the platform claims to measure. Not what the pacing guide imagines a student should already be able to tolerate. What will help this person, in this room, inside this demand, with this history, this nervous system, this language ecology, this future arriving before they have words for it.
    So I think that was the conversation beneath the conversation.
    Attunement is not the soft beginning before the real work starts.
    Attunement is the real work.
    It is how the room is prepared. It is how the story is chosen. It is how the parent is heard. It is how the student becomes visible before the system has misnamed them. It is how the script becomes access rather than pathology. It is how mathematics becomes inhabitable. It is how a young person begins to feel the future arrive and can say, no, that place is not for me—or yes, I can go there, because now I understand what I am walking into.
    And it is why thirteen graduations can leave me flooded.
    Because when the work is real, departure is not administrative.
    It is relational.
    It is the proof that the container held.
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    AutSide After Dark: The Colour Beyond Speech

    14/06/2026 | 33 mins.
    When speech replaces language and algorithms reward explanation over recognition, entire forms of autistic knowing disappear. A deep dive into gestalt processing, meaning-making, visibility, and the pathways we build to find ourselves.
    This first episode of AutSide After Dark grows out of a question that has been following me for some time: what happens when the knowledge exists, but the pathways leading to it remain hidden? In The Colour Was There All Along, I argued that many of the most important discoveries in our lives are not discoveries at all. They are moments of access. The language was there. The explanations were there. The people were there. What was missing was a route through. In this conversation, I return to that idea of enclosure and ask whether it may be shaping not only autism research and practice, but the online spaces where autistic people increasingly come to understand themselves.
    The first half of the episode explores what I call The Great Substitution: the tendency to confuse speech with language. Speech is visible. It can be counted, measured, and documented. Language is something much larger. Language is how we organise experience, construct identity, and make meaning across time. Drawing on my own journey—from an autism diagnosis in my thirties to discovering gestalt processing in my fifties—I reflect on the possibility that some of the most significant language development in autistic lives may occur long after childhood services have ended. Not vocabulary. Not grammar. Meaning. Narrative. The lifelong work of understanding what happened to us.
    From there, I turn toward social media and the kinds of autistic voices that become most visible online. Many of the most successful formats are analytic in structure: lists, traits, categories, explanations, and scripts. There is nothing inherently wrong with this. Yet I wonder what happens to forms of cognition that depend on accumulation, resonance, context, and duration. What happens when the whole arrives before the explanation? What happens when a platform rewards compression while your experience requires space? The question is not whether analytic communication is valid. It is what becomes difficult to see when it dominates the conversation.
    This leads into a discussion of what I have come to call the Script Garden: the lifelong cultivation of language, memory, and meaning. Many adult gestalt processors seem to spend years building pathways between experiences that were never fully understood at the time they occurred. Diagnosis, relationships, transition, work, trauma, belonging, identity—slowly assembled into something coherent. Yet much of this work remains surprisingly invisible, even within autism spaces themselves. In that sense, gestalt processors may represent a cognitive minority within a cognitive minority, often discovering themselves not through established pathways but through resonance, accident, and recognition.
    The episode closes by returning to one of the oldest threads running through my work. Long before I was writing about gestalt processing, I was writing about ecology, environments, and the conditions that allow people to flourish. One of my earlier papers could not find a home in academia, so I built one. In many ways, that is why The AutSide exists at all—not as a platform or a brand, but as an archive. A place where ideas can wait for the language that will eventually make them visible. More than four years on, I remain astonished by the community that has gathered around that project. Thousands of readers, listeners, correspondents, and fellow travellers. People building their own Script Gardens. Their own pathways. Their own archives of meaning. This conversation is for them.
    —apologies for the overly pixelated video. The Substack Recording Studio has a big problem with bandwidth it seems…


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    Sunday Mornings with Jaime & Cathy: The Colour Was There All Along

    14/06/2026 | 13 mins.
    A reflection on gestalt processing, delayed understanding, and the politics of access. Sometimes discovery is not finding something new, but finally gaining the language and pathways needed to see what was there all along.
    In this week’s episode, I explore a recurring theme that has surfaced across much of my recent work: the difference between something existing and something being accessible. Using a memory from travelling between Austria and Hungary in the early 1990s, I reflect on how experiences that initially appear personal or perceptual often reveal larger political, historical, and structural dimensions when viewed from a different vantage point.
    I connect that memory to my discovery of gestalt processing frameworks decades after my autism diagnosis. The central question is not why these ideas were hidden, but why pathways between knowledge and the people who need that knowledge were so often absent. The concepts existed. The observations existed. The lived experiences existed. What was frequently missing was access.
    I also revisit my own educational journey, including the seven-and-a-half-year completion of my doctorate, through the lens of translation and architecture rather than effort or motivation. Looking back, many of the difficulties I encountered appear less as individual shortcomings and more as the predictable result of navigating systems built upon assumptions that remained invisible to those who designed them.
    From there, the discussion broadens into questions of epistemic enclosure, institutional incentives, and the ways knowledge becomes concentrated within professional and disciplinary boundaries. Whether in education, autism research, or social media spaces, the issue is often not the absence of information but the absence of pathways capable of carrying that information where it is needed.
    Ultimately, this episode argues that many moments we describe as discovery are something else entirely. Sometimes the landscape was already there. Sometimes the colour was already there. What changes is not the world itself, but our access to the language, frameworks, and perspectives that allow us to finally see what has been present all along.


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    Episode 574: The Distance Between Hearing and Understanding

    12/06/2026 | 19 mins.
    Today’s episode explores the critical distinction between mechanical hearing and the cognitive processing required to derive meaning from sound. For many neurodivergent individuals, the primary barrier to communication is not hearing loss, but rather the invisible labour of translating spoken words into understanding. The author of the source article, Dr. Jaime Hoerricks, highlights how auditory processing differences are frequently misidentified as a lack of effort or intelligence when they are actually systemic mismatches between a person and their environment. Tools like captions and visual supports act as essential translation infrastructure, reducing the mental exhaustion caused by real-time listening. Ultimately, Dr. Hoerricks advocates for a shift from blaming the individual to providing accessible communication pathways that allow meaning to travel more effectively. These reflections emphasise that true comprehension often requires additional time and diverse sensory inputs rather than just louder or faster speech.
    Here’s the link to the source article:
    Let me know what you think.
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    Episode 573: The Mirage of Inclusion—A Teacher’s Struggle for Belonging

    11/06/2026 | 20 mins.
    Today’s episode provides a poignant critique of educational systems that champion “full inclusion” whilst failing to support neurodivergent and transgender individuals. Drawing from her personal experiences as an autistic trans educator, the author of the source article, Dr. Jaime Hoerricks, illustrates how institutional promises of equity often mask a reality of professional marginalisation and social exclusion. Dr. Hoerricks describes how Resource Specialist Program (RSP) teachers are frequently treated as intruders rather than collaborators, mirroring the isolation felt by the students they serve. She further examines how purity culture and rigid professional norms reinforce a hostile environment for those who exist outside traditional standards. Ultimately, she argues that systemic bullying often manifests through subtle, deniable actions that erode the professional standing and well-being of marginalized staff. Her account serves as an urgent call for schools to move beyond performative buzzwords and cultivate environments where true belonging is a lived reality for everyone.
    Here’s the link to the source article:
    Let me know what you think.
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AutSide: A podcast from an autistic trans woman that explores critical issues at the intersection of autism, neurodiversity, gender, and social justice. Dive deep into the realities of living as an autistic adult, critiques of education systems, and the power of storytelling to reshape public narratives. With a unique blend of snark, sharp analysis, and personal experience, each episode challenges societal norms, from the failures of standardized testing to the complexities of identity and revolution. Join the conversation on AutSide, where lived experience and critical theory meet for change. autside.substack.com
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