Sidney Blumenthal and Sean Wilentz interview Anne Applebaum, staff writer for The Atlantic and author of Autocracy, Inc., about the downfall of Viktor Orban in Hungary, how the American right was implicated with his authoritarian regime, including Trump, JD Vance and Marco Rubio, what Orban’s defeat foretells for Trump and Maga, the deep corruption exposed, and how Ukraine emerges as stronger.
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