Kerry Katona: I Didn’t Know Brian Cheated Before Our Wedding! THIS Is The Truth About Heidi & Liz’s Atomic Kitten Fights
Kerry Katona opens up like never before revealing the truth behind her rise to fame with Atomic Kitten, the challenges of her turbulent childhood, and the personal struggles that shaped her journey. From knowing she was destined for fame at just five years old, to navigating the highs and lows of public life, Kerry shares the story of what really happened behind the headlines.
In the emotional first part of this two-part conversation, Kerry discusses her complicated relationship with her mother and how she navigated fame and tabloid scrutiny. She opens up about her relationship with Brian McFadden, the public breakdown of their marriage, how she turned to drugs to deal with the heartbreak.
Kerry shares:
◽ Growing up as the product of an affair and forced to choose between parents
◽ The trauma of her early years and trying to buy her mum’s love
◽ How Atomic Kitten was formed and what went on behind closed doors
◽ The real reason she left Atomic Kitten
◽ How she met Brian McFadden and discovered his infidelity
◽ The emotional toll of fame and her battle with substance use
Kerry Katona, We Need to Talk.
See you next week for Part Two!
(00:00) Intro
(03:17) Kerry's Unique Family Situation and Childhood
(08:22) Kerry's Relationship with Her 'Dad' Dave
(12:48) The First Time Kerry Took Drugs
(15:09) Kerry's Biological Dad
(22:45) How Kerry Got Started in Modelling
(36:08) Shopify Ad
(37:06) Adobe Express Ad
(38:10) Kerry's Journey to Atomic Kitten
(41:11) Kerry's Time in the Porn Kings
(45:09) The Origins of Atomic Kitten
(50:50) Atomic Kitten's Rise to Fame
(55:32) Tinder Ad
(56:36) The Success of Atomic Kitten
(58:18) Why Did the Media Focus on Kerry?
(01:02:44) Kerry's Highlights of Being in Atomic Kitten
(01:03:51) Kerry's Encounters with Notable Stars
(01:09:00) Kerry's Lowest Moment in Atomic Kitten
(01:10:30) How Kerry Met Brian Mcfadden
(01:12:59) Did People in the Music Industry Like Kerry and Brian's Coupling?
(01:14:42) Brian's Proposal to Kerry
(01:15:59) Kerry's First Pregnancy
(01:17:07) The Impact of Kerry's Leaked Photos
(01:19:18) What Was Kerry's Relationship with the Press Like During Atomic Kitten and Her Marriage with Brian
(01:21:03) Kerry's Choice to Leave Atomic Kitten
(01:22:45) Kerry and Brian's Wedding
(01:24:42) Brian's Infidelity
(01:29:36) Kerry's Experience of Winning 'I'm a Celeb'
(01:37:22) Why Brian and Kerry Got Divorced
(01:44:39) Moving Back to Warrington After Kerry's Split with Brian
(01:45:30) Going to Rehab in Arizona
(01:47:23) Kerry's Diagnosis of Bipolar
(01:50:53) Part 2 Teaser
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I Was Painted As The Villain! | We're Talking TV Talent Shows
We’re Talking TV TALENT SHOWS: Two of the most iconic contestants - Cher Lloyd and Calum Scott - open up about their unforgettable auditions and what really happened after the cameras stopped rolling.
◽️ Cher takes us back to The X Factor stage at just 16 - and the backlash that nearly broke her
◽️ Calum reveals what it was like to go viral overnight after Britain’s Got Talent - and how he rebuilt himself afterwards
◽️ Both share the real truth about fame, pressure and surviving reality TV
(00:00) Intro
(00:33) Cher's X-Factor Audition
(03:52) How Does Cher Feel She Was Portrayed on X-Factor Versus What She Was Actually Like?
(06:35) What Kind of Mental Health Support Was Cher Getting on the X-Factor?
(07:51) What Was Cher's Relationship with the Judges Like?
(11:04) What Was Living with the Other Artists Like?
(15:17) Love Better Tour Ad
(16:23) Calum's Experience of His Britain's Got Talent Audition
(27:16) Calum Reflects on the Impact BGT Had on His Career
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Why I Walked Away From My £100M Fashion Brand!
Adam Frisby, founder of In The Style, speaks out for the first time about the rise and fall of his £100M fashion empire. From launching with just £1,000 and packing orders in his bedroom, to working with celebrity collaborators like Charlotte Crosby and Stacey Solomon, Adam built one of the UK’s most recognisable fashion brands. But behind the success was a story of hidden scars, resilience, and starting over.
In his most personal interview yet, Adam reveals why he walked away from In The Style, the £100 million court case that nearly broke him, and how the pressure of running a public company pushed him to the edge. He opens up about being kicked out of his mum’s house at 15, hiding his sexuality and the shame he carried for years, and the moment he nearly got pulled into a world of crime before choosing a different path.
Now, as Adam launches a new fashion brand and prepares to become a dad through surrogacy with his partner Jamie, he reflects on family, identity, and what success really means.
Adam shares:
◽ The childhood trauma and rejection he hid for years
◽ How In The Style became a fashion empire - and what went wrong
◽ The £100M court case that left him at rock bottom
◽ Why he surrendered everything to start again
◽ How surrogacy is helping him become the dad he always needed
Adam Frisby, We Need to Talk.
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(00:00) Intro
(01:59) What Was Adam's Childhood Like and How Did It Shape Him?
(03:23) Adam's Experience of Moving to Spain at 13
(08:05) How Adam Navigated His Sexuality as a Teenager
(10:26) Adam's Experience of Being Kicked Out of His Mum's House at 15
(15:16) How Adam Came Out to His Family
(17:42) Moving Out of His Dad's House at 16
(19:53) Adam's First Jobs and His Journey to Entrepreneurship
(21:30) How Adam Started In The Style
(25:26) How In The Style Grew and Its First Celebrity Collaborations
(31:30) A Message from Charlotte Crosby
(35:20) How Successful Was 'In The Style' Initially?
(41:45) In The Style Becoming a Public Company
(44:59) Treatwell Ad
(46:13) Tinder Ad
(47:27) What Were the Causes for the Decline of In The Style?
(54:24) Adam's Mental and Physical Health During the Turbulent End of His Time at In The Style
(01:01:27) The End of In The Style
(01:08:59) Adam's Relationship with His Partner Jamie
(01:11:42) A Letter from Jamie
(01:14:56) Adam and Jamie's Experience of Having a Baby Through Surrogacy
(01:26:55) Social Media Reaction to Adam and Jamie's Baby News
(01:29:20) Adam's New Business
(01:31:03) Most Memorable Conversation
(01:34:19) Paul's Takeaways
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Talia Mar, YUNGBLUD, & Jordan Stephens on Love & Dating | We’re Talking: Love Stories
Talia Mar reveals how she met Simon Minter (Miniminter), the bold social media move that caught his attention, and the truth about their first date. She shares what made Simon so attractive and why their relationship works.
Yungblud opens up about his sexuality, why his relationship with Jessie Jo Stark ended, and whether he’s still in love with her today. He also reflects on self-love, identity, and what real intimacy means in relationships.
Jordan Stephens shares his love story with Jayde, from their first date to overcoming intimacy issues, and how his attitude towards saying “I love you” has completely changed.
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(00:00) Intro
(00:27) How Talia Met Simon Minter
(02:51) What Talia Did on Social Media to Get Simon's Attention
(05:04) Talia and Simon's First Date
(09:12) What Was It About Simon That Was So Attractive?
(11:14) Love Better Tour Ad
(12:24) Yungblud's Attitude Towards His Sexuality
(13:39) Why Yungblud Can't Be in a Relationship With Jessie Jo Stark
(15:11) Is Yungblud Still in Love With Jessie Jo?
(18:02) Does Yungblud Love Himself Today?
(19:35) How Jordan Met Jayde
(22:06) Jordan and Jade's First Date
(24:33) How Jordan Navigated His Intimacy Issues With Jade
(25:40) Jordan's Changed Attitude Towards Saying 'I Love You' to Jade
(27:23) Jordan and Jade's First Date
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Little Mix's Perrie Edwards: I’ve Never Spoken About THIS Before! And Why I Hated My Public Breakup
Little Mix star Perrie Edwards opens up about her journey from a shy girl in South Shields to global superstardom, and for the first time, the private battles she fought along the way. From life-threatening childhood illness and years of surgery, to panic attacks so severe she couldn’t leave the house, Perrie reveals the moments that nearly broke her, and the resilience that kept her going.
For the first time, Perrie shares the truth about her most painful heartbreaks, the public breakup that left her traumatised, and how toxic relationships once shaped her idea of love. She speaks candidly about meeting her fiancé Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, finding a safe and supportive relationship, and becoming a mother after experiencing a devastating miscarriage at 24 weeks.
From X Factor auditions and being underestimated as a girl band, to selling millions of records and learning to redefine success on her own terms, Perrie reflects on fame, grief, motherhood, and the courage it takes to protect your peace in the public eye.
Now, with her debut solo album on the horizon, she’s learning to create without pressure, embrace vulnerability, and find joy again in the music.
Perrie shares:
◽ How a childhood illness shaped her love of singing
◽ The panic disorder that made her afraid to leave home
◽ Why toxic relationships once felt “normal”
◽ The grief of miscarriage and losing a baby at 24 weeks
◽ How Alex helped her find safety and love again
◽ What fame taught her about resilience and self-worth
◽ Why she’s no longer chasing chart positions with her music
Perrie Edwards, We Need to Talk.
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(00:00) Intro
(02:08) Perrie's Experience of Moving Around a Lot as a Child
(05:51) Perrie's Health Issues as a Child
(13:56) Perrie's Lack of Smell
(19:49) How Did Perrie's Love of Singing Develop?
(26:03) How Perrie Got Onto X-Factor
(32:52) Tinder Ad
(34:03) Love Better Tour Ad
(35:08) Perrie's Time in Little Mix and Their Dynamic When They Were Making/Touring Their Music
(40:27) Why Perrie Thinks Little Mix Remain the Underdog of Girl Groups
(43:21) How Perrie Has Dealt With Instability in Her Life
(46:49) Perrie's Relationship With Zayn Malik
(56:34) How Perrie Met Her Husband Alex
(01:00:43) The Difference in Dynamic Between Perrie's Relationship With Zayn and With Alex
(01:07:19) How Would Perrie Describe Her Relationship With Alex?
(01:09:37) How Has Having Her Son Changed Perrie?
(01:11:58) Pregnancy Speculation in the Media
(01:14:09) Perrie's Experience of Pregnancy and Miscarriage
(01:20:53) How Alex Dealt With the Miscarriages
(01:24:20) Perrie's Struggle With Panic Attacks Since Little Mix
(01:30:04) Perrie's Experience of Agoraphobia
(01:33:11) Perrie's New Album
(01:36:25) Most Memorable Conversation
(01:40:25) Paul's Takeaways
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