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A Meal of Thorns

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    A Meal of Thorns 51- THE FIFTH HEAD OF CERBERUS with Premee Mohamed

    01/06/2026 | 1h 5 mins.
    Science fiction readers love a mechanism, they love a bit of world-building and mystery-solving. Premee Mohamed joins us to discuss Gene Wolfe's The Fifth Head of Cerberus, a book that asks: what if a science fiction book intentionally avoided all of that?

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    Guest: Premee Mohamed

    Title: The Fifth Head of Cerberus by Gene Wolfe

    Host:Jake Casella Brookins

    Music byGiselle Gabrielle Garcia

    Artwork byRob Patterson

    Opening poem by Bhartṛhari, translated by John Brough

    References:

    Entangled Life by Merlin Sheldrake

    Moby-Dick by Herman Melville

    Mercutio by Kate Heartfield

    Pretenders to the Throne of God by Adrian Tchaikovsky

    Orbit 10 anthology edited by Damon Knight

    William Carlos Williams’ “This Is Just To Say” and its many responses

    Premee’s And What Can We Offer You Tonight

    Meander, Spiral, Explode by Jane Alison

    Giovanni's Room by James Baldwin

    Akira Kurosawa’s Rashomon

    Heart of Darkness by Josef Conrad

    The Vorrh by B. Catling

    The face dancers from Frank Herbert’s Dune series

    Mystique and the Kree from the Marvel/X-Men comics

    Michael Swanwick's Stations of the Tide

    Vladimir Nabokov's Pale Fire

    Premee’s The Butcher of the Forest & Wickhills

    "sentients" & "sapients"

    “The Great Chain of Being”

    Star Wars series The Bad Batch and The Clone Wars

    Orson Scott Card's Speaker for the Dead

    Octavia Butler's Dawn

    Tolkien's On Fairy Stories

    Philip K. Dick's Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? & Ridley Scott's Bladerunner

    Premee’s The Siege of Burning Grass

    Hilary Putnam's “Twin Earth”

    Premee's Patreon, Website, Bluesky

    Wickhills & From the Library of Jurgen Leitner

    The Carl Brandon Society
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    A Meal of Thorns 50- SISYPHEAN with Gareth Watkins

    18/05/2026 | 1h 11 mins.
    A rain of corpses is falling from the sky, insectoid femme fatales are setting their compound eyes on our tender thoraxes, and our cattle drive across an expanse of nanotech goo is starting to go off the rails. So we ask ourselves: do we still have to go to work tomorrow? Critic, author, & podcaster Gareth Watkins joins to discuss Dempow Torishima’s delightfully strange Sisyphean.

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    Guest: Gareth Watkins

    Title: Sisyphean by Dempow Torishima, translated by Daniel Huddleston

    Host: Jake Casella Brookins

    Music by Giselle Gabrielle Garcia

    Artwork by Rob Patterson

    Opening poem by Bhartṛhari, translated by John Brough

    References:

    Death // Sentence

    Muskism by Quinn Slobodian & Ben Tarnoff

    Peter Thiel

    One Piece by Eiichiro Oda

    Slavoj Žižek

    René Girard

    Carl Schmitt

    Thiel/Douthat NYT interview

    Jeff VanderMeer

    Haikosoru

    Viz Comics

    Battle Royale by Koushun Takami

    Finnegans Wake by James Joyce

    The Doloriad by Missouri Williams

    M. John Harrison’s essay on worldbuilding

    Marmite/Vegemite

    Jared Diamond's Guns, Germs, and Steel

    "Professor Jiang"

    Isaac Asimov's Foundation

    New Chronology

    Tartarianism

    Franz Kafka & Philip K. Dick

    A Scanner Darkly

    H.R. Giger

    Phil Tippet’s Mad God

    Kameron Hurley's The Stars are Legion

    Antoine Volodine's Radiant Terminus

    Manuela Draeger's Kree

    Mike Judge’s Office Space

    David Cronenberg

    Raymond Chandler

    Antonio Gramsci

    Nick Land

    Friedrich Nietzsche's eternal recurrence

    Yoss's Planet for Rent

    Deleuze & Guitarri

    The Sex Pistols & Avril Lavigne

    H.P. Lovecraft's "The Call of Cthulhu"

    Ayn Rand

    Jeff VanderMeer's Dead Astronauts

    Torishima's Kanadete no Nufuretsun

    Gareth's bluesky

    Just Plain Evil: Cruelty, Extinction, and the Authoritarian Mind

    Gareth's appearances on Blood Work
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    A Meal of Thorns 49- MOONGATHER with Molly Templeton

    04/05/2026 | 1h 4 mins.
    Stop explaining and start exploring: critic & reviewer Molly Templeton walks us through this gem of 1980s mass market fantasy, with many asides and theories on shifting patterns of publishing and reading patterns. Plus, we spill the beans on the most fun book club, also known as the most fun cult.

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    Guest: Molly Templeton

    Title: Moongather by Jo Clayton

    Host: Jake Casella Brookins

    Music by Giselle Gabrielle Garcia

    Artwork by Rob Patterson

    Opening poem by Bhartṛhari, translated by John Brough

    References:

    ARB’s Fundraiser! Donations & shares greatly appreciated!

    Kurt Vonnegut's asterisk

    John Darnielle's This Year

    "Cold Milk Bottle"

    "First Few Desperate Hours"

    Claire North's Slow Gods

    Hebe Stanton’s review at ARB

    Molly’s discussion of Slow Gods and being stuck on a book

    Gary Wolfe & Jonathan Strahan's Coode Street Podcast

    Arkady Martine & Ann Leckie

    The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

    Violet Allen's Prism, Plastic, Void

    Little Puss Press

    Casey Plett

    Amal El-Mohtar & Max Gladstone’s This Is How You Lose The Time War

    Vajra Chandrasekera’s Rakesfall

    A.V. Marraccini’s We The Parasites

    Clayton’s Diadem from the Stars

    Brandon Sanderson

    Le Guin’s A Wizard of Earthsea

    Forgotten Realms

    J.R.R. Tolkien's “On Fairy Stories” & Lord of the Rings

    Ged & the otak from Earthsea

    "Fridging" & "Bury Your Gays"

    The Arrowverse TV shows

    Ron Howard’s Solo: A Star Wars Film

    "Explaining vs Exploring"

    Bora Chung's Midnight Timetable

    The Toyota Tercel

    The soot-sprites from Hayao Miyazaki’s Spirited Away

    C.J. Cherryh's Foreigner

    Bethany Jacobs’ This Brutal Moon, conclusion to The Kindom Trilogy

    Jacobs’ website

    Philip Pullman's The Rose Field

    The Expanse series by James S.A. Corey

    David Eddings’ The Belgariad

    Parallel Worlds Bookshop

    Cherryh's Rusalka & The Paladin

    The Ursula K. Le Guin Foundation & Prize

    Molly's writing at Reactor & Bluesky & Website
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    A Meal of Thorns 48- READY PLAYER ONE with Matthew Leggatt

    20/04/2026 | 1h 10 mins.
    The pleasures and perils of nostalgia & reference, the importance of identifying real play versus gamified labor, and whether the internet used to be fun: Matthew Leggat of the Utopian & Dystopian Fictions podcast joins to discuss Ernest Cline’s Ready Player One.

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    Guest: Matthew Leggatt

    Title: Ready Player One by Ernie Cline

    Host:Jake Casella Brookins

    Music byGiselle Gabrielle Garcia

    Artwork byRob Patterson

    Opening poem by Bhartṛhari, translated by John Brough

    References:

    ARB’s Fundraiser!!!

    Matthew’s Cultural and Political Nostalgia in the Age of Terror, Play in Utopian and Dystopian Fiction, and Wastelands and Wonderlands

    The Utopian & Dystopian Fictions podcast

    I Who Have Never Known Men by Jacqueline Harpman

    Chicano Frankenstein by Daniel A. Olivas

    U&DF episode with Olivas

    Neal Stephenson’s Snow Crash & Reamde

    William Gibson’s Neuromancer

    K.A. Teryna’s Black Hole Heart translated by Alex Shvartsman

    Nana Kwame Adjei-Brenya’s Chain Gang All-Stars

    Was It Yesterday: Nostalgia in Contemporary Film and Television edited by Matthew

    Dan Brown’s The Da Vinci Code

    Gamergate

    “Playing the Game of Literature: Ready Player One, the Ludic Novel, and the Geeky ‘Canon’ of White Masculinity” by Megan Amber Condis

    Captain Crunch: phreaker John Draper

    Kyle Chayka’s "Why the internet isn't fun anymore"

    William Gibson’s “The Gernsback Continuum”

    Ling Ma's Severance

    Helen MacDonald & Syn Blaché’s Prophet

    MacDonald’s H is for Hawk

    Stanislaw Lem's Solaris

    Alice Landsberg's Prosthetic Memory: The Transformation of American Remembrance in the Age of Mass Culture

    The television series Stranger Things

    Mark Fisher's Ghosts of My Life

    Richard Fleischer’s Soylent Green (based on Harrison’s Make Room! Make Room!) & Paul R. Ehrlich’s The Population Bomb

    Samuel Butler’s Erewhon

    B.F. Skinner’s Walden Two

    Voight-Kampf Test from Ridley Scott’s Bladerunner / Philip K. Dick’s Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?

    The "lusory attitude" from Bernard Suits' The Grasshopper: Games, Life and Utopia

    Ernst Callenbach's Ecotopia

    Philip Nel’s “I Love the ‘80s: Dystopia, Nostalgia, and Ready Player One”

    Michael Jackson

    372 Pages We'll Never Get Back

    (That's Mike Nelson of MST3K Fame)

    High Fidelity by Nick Hornby
    Jordan Carroll's Speculative Whiteness

    Paul Hardisty'sForcing trilogy
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    A Meal of Thorns 47- CLOUD ATLAS with Abigail Nussbaum

    06/04/2026 | 1h 10 mins.
    A nested novel that very pointedly bridges the litfic/specfic divide, David Mitchell’s Cloud Atlas takes some big swings at tricky topics. Abigail Nussbaum returns to the podcast with some thoughts on how the novel has aged, and how it’s still relevant to genre thinking today.

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    Guest: Abigail Nussbaum

    Title: Cloud Atlas by David Mitchell

    Host:Jake Casella Brookins

    Music byGiselle Gabrielle Garcia

    Artwork byRob Patterson

    Opening poem by Bhartṛhari, translated by John Brough

    References:

    ARB’s Fundraiser!!!

    Track Changes

    Aliya Whiteley’s The Misheard World & Abigail’s review

    Nina Allen

    Alexis Hall's Hell's Heart

    Olivia Waite

    Herman Melville’s Moby-Dick

    Lincoln Michel's Metallic Realms

    Vladimir Nabokov’s Pale Fire

    Hanya Yanagihara's The People in the Trees

    Readerville forum & Salon Magazine's “The Well”

    The Cloud Atlas by Liam Callanan

    Jonathan Lethem's Girl in Landscape & Motherless Brooklyn

    Kate Atkinson's Case Histories

    Our episode on The Historian

    Michael Chabon’s The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & Clay and The Yiddish Policemen’s Union

    New Wave, Cyberpunk, Mundane SF, The New Weird

    China Miéville’s Perdido Street Station

    The “New Adult” category of books

    Taylor Jenkins Reed

    Lessons in Chemistry by Bonnie Garmus

    Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow by Gabrielle Zevin

    The Marvel Cinematic Universe

    Aragorn’s Tax Policy

    Jeremy Rosen’s Genre Bending

    Anthony Burgess’s A Clockwork Orange, Russel Hoban’s Riddley Walker, Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World

    Sofia Samatar’s The Practice, the Horizon, and the Chain

    Jean Baudrillard

    William Gibson

    The Stanford marshmallow experiment

    The Chatham Islands, Moriori & Māori peoples

    Charlie Jane Anders’ piece on Cloud Atlas

    The Velvet Underground joke (not many people listened, but everybody who did started a band)

    Kazuo Ishiguro’s Never Let Me Go

    Niall Harrison’s “In Search of Green Overshoots”

    The Coral Bones by E.J. Swift

    In Ascension by Martin MacInnes

    Gnomon by Nick Harkaway

    Abigail's Blog & Bluesky

    Tolkien Series: Roseanna Pendlebury & Ed Morland’s, Ranged Touch’s Shelved by Genre, Nick Hubble, Jared Pechaček, Weird Studies
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A critical book club from the Ancillary Review of Books. Host Jake Casella Brookins invites writers, scholars, and critics to discuss thorny works of science fiction, fantasy, and other speculative genres.
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