Avoiding Babylon

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Anthony Abbate and Joel Webbon discuss contentious issues in our day, focusing on how Christianity and Catholicism intersect with modern challenges. They explore these topics through the lens of religion, debating various viewpoints. The discussion also touches upon biblical interpretations relevant to contemporary society.
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We discuss two recent articles: one arguing that you should stay at a bad Catholic parish and fight for it, and the other arguing against that.  What will Anthony and Rob decide? Will they agree? Or not?
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Daniel O'Connor joins us to discuss the deception around aliens, UFO & UAP phenomena, AI, the day of disclosure, and how Catholics should discern the "signs and wonders" of our time within their faith. This conversation emphasizes the importance of a fervent approach to Christianity, highlighting why lukewarm Catholicism is no longer an option for the church. We explore these topics through a spiritual and theological lens, offering guidance for today's challenges.
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Why are U.S. cities erupting after recent ICE enforcement actions? We unpack the timeline, the claims, and what a Catholic view of order and justice requires.
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Want the truth about where the trad world stands—without the coping or the clickbait? We follow the threads from Bishop Fulton Sheen’s long-delayed beatification, through Cardinal Roche’s letter on the liturgy, to the uncomfortable reality that a so-called youth movement has quietly gone gray.

We get honest about what younger men are actually dealing with: a wrecked dating market, credential mills, debt-squeezed housing, and a job landscape warped by visas and offshoring. Against those pressures, endless arguments about documents and labels feel like theater. Tradition doesn’t need to be softer—it needs to be lived. Less quote-mining, more discipline. Less outrage, more parish life. Teach a traditional Catholic life. Live it for a century. Then evaluate the council when the smoke clears.

We dive into Roche’s claim that the older books were a concession never intended to grow and hold it up to Benedict’s “mutual enrichment.” On the ground, where both forms coexist, reverence improves, and people discover the old rite without fleeing their parishes. That matters more than any memo. We also sit with Fulton Sheen’s “ape of the Church,” why hindsight on Vatican II is tricky, and why Sheen still draws seekers who are hungry for clarity and beauty.

Finally, we talk about Scott Adams and the risk of treating salvation like a hack. Baptism, repentance, confession, and real community are not optional extras. The Sunday obligation protects the habit of belonging when screens tempt us to go it alone. If beauty saves, it does so in the flesh: Mass, meals, laughter, and the steady weight of shared prayer.

Join us for a candid, hopeful reset. Subscribe, share with a friend who needs this conversation, and leave a review to help more people find the show. Then tell us: what should a real trad rebrand look like where you live?
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