Between Two Beers Podcast

Brad Thorn is one of the most unique champions New Zealand sport has ever produced.

A dual-code legend, Brad achieved what almost no one has - winning NRL premierships, World Cups, Super Rugby titles, and earning the right to wear the All Blacks jersey at the highest level.

But behind the trophies is an obsession with discipline, standards, and doing the work that others won’t. In this conversation, Brad reflects on the mindset that shaped his career - the moments that hardened him, the sacrifices required to chase the black jersey, and why he believes “champions do extra.”

We talk about walking away from millions to start again, the lessons he learned from the toughest environments in sport, and what it really takes to become a master of your craft. An unforgettable episode with one of the greats.

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We’re kicking off 2026 with a big change! Di walks into the studio with a completely shaved head, addressing the "elephant in the room" immediately.

But this episode isn't just about the new look - it’s about looking forward. Di introduces the "10,000 Days" framework: the idea that at mid-life, we have roughly 10,000 days left to live. The question isn't just what your net worth will be when you're 80, but whether you had a "sh*t ton of fun" getting there.

We also get into a heated debate about "parenting scorecards" (do you really need data to know if you’re a present dad?).

In this episode, we cover:
The Big Reveal: Why Di shaved her head and the "interesting assumptions" people make.
The 10,000 Days Rule: A framework for reverse-engineering your life from age 80.
The "Shit Ton of Fun" Metric: Why financial freedom means nothing if you're miserable achieving it.

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This episode includes discussion of grief, loss, and mental health, which some listeners may find distressing.

Dr Lucy Hone is one of the world’s leading voices on grief, resilience, and how humans survive life’s hardest moments.

In this episode, Lucy shares the tools and insights she’s developed through her work in resilience psychology - and through personal tragedy, after losing her 12-year-old daughter Abby in a sudden accident.

We talk about why grief isn’t just about death, but about any unwanted change we’re forced to endure, why so many of us struggle with “grief literacy,” and how opening up honest conversations about loss can help people breathe again.

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In this episode of Hambassadors, things get way too honest. Steve finally confesses to his most embarrassing "new dad" moment involving a big night out and a change table, while Seamus opens up about separation anxiety.

Plus, we break down the absolute scenes from the Horgan Cup golf tournament, where Seamus managed to get New Zealand legends like Mark Ellis, Matthew Ridge, Patty Gower, and Ryan Fox to record personal roasting intros for the players.

We also go behind the scenes of the powerful Cameron George interview, discuss why Seamus ruined his sensory deprivation float tank experience, and tease this week's incredibly emotional episode with Dr. Lucy Hone.

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This week on Between Two Beers, we sit down with Cameron George, the CEO of the New Zealand Warriors.

Cameron is one of the most influential figures in modern New Zealand sport - and in this conversation, he opens up like never before about the journey that shaped him, and the brutal years that nearly broke the club.

We dive deep into the Warriors’ extraordinary 1,038-day COVID exile, the personal toll it took on players, staff and families, and how that period ultimately forged the culture and resilience we see in the club today.

Cameron reflects on leadership under pressure, the people who carried the organisation through its darkest stretch, and what it takes to build belief inside an NRL club representing an entire country.

We also explore his upbringing in rural Australia, his unlikely path through horse racing and governance, his relationship with owner Mark Robinson, and why “people first” has always been at the centre of everything he does.

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