Jeremy Jernigan is a former megachurch pastor turned wine-loving theologian who’s not afraid to ask the hard questions about Christianity. As the host of Cabernet and Pray, Jeremy blends deep theological exploration with cultural critique, all while sipping exceptional wines from around the world. With a background in ministry and a passion for progressive faith, Jeremy invites listeners into raw, honest conversations about doubt, deconstruction, and rediscovering Jesus beyond evangelicalism. Whether he’s unpacking a problematic Bible passage, challenging toxic church traditions, or exploring the beauty of grace with a guest, Jeremy offers a fresh take on faith that’s thoughtful, provocative, and deeply rooted in love. If you're seeking a faith that holds space for curiosity, nuance, and a good Pinot Noir, you're in the right place.
Downsizing Evangelicalism (with Michelle Van Loon) | Ep. 55
What if the shrinking of evangelicalism isn’t a crisis to be feared but an opportunity to rediscover something truer, leaner, and more like Jesus? In this episode, I sit down with author Michelle Van Loon to talk about what’s being lost, what’s worth keeping, and why smaller might actually be better for the future of faith. Grab a glass, pull up a chair, and join us as we explore how downsizing could make room for growth that actually matters.
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Links:
Michelle's book Downsizing
Michelle's website: michellevanloon.com
Michelle's Substack: substack.com/@michellevanloon
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The Water Had Not Yet Turned into Wine | Ep. 54
What if you’re not the same person you used to be—and that’s exactly the point? In this episode, I explore the strange and beautiful truth that growth requires us to let old versions of ourselves fade away, like water waiting to be turned into wine. From awkward past opinions (yes, I found some of mine in print!) to Taylor Swift lyrics and even a little wisdom from Brian Zahnd and Rob Bell, we’ll talk about what it means to thank yesterday’s “you” and make space for tomorrow’s.
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Trying to make sense of faith? Download my free Deconstruction Field Guide. It's a ten-page resource to help you navigate what's next so you don't have to do it alone. https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/opt-in
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Reviving the Golden Rule (with Andrew DeCort) | Ep. 53
In this episode, we dig into why the most famous command in Christianity has become more of a coffee mug slogan than an actual way of life. We’ll explore how we’ve domesticated Jesus’ radical ethic into something polite and toothless… and what it would take to bring its wild, world-flipping power back. We’ll look at what happens when faith stops being about certainty and starts being about curiosity. Pour a glass, pull up a chair, and let’s talk about how to actually live the thing Jesus said was the point all along.
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Links:
https://amzn.to/4ouvZbf - Preorder "Reviving the Golden Rule"
andrew-decort.com - Andrew's newsletter
iffglobal.org - learn more about Andrew's work
andrewdecort.substack.com - Andrew's series "Reframe"
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The Good News About Evil | Ep. 52
What if evil is never as strong as it seems? In this episode of Cabernet and Pray, we wade into the heaviness of the world (child trafficking, genocide, injustice) and wrestle with what it means to have hope in the face of it. We explore a surprising biblical theme that runs throughout the Psalms and the prophets. We consider Bonhoeffer’s call to jam a spoke in the wheel, Brueggemann’s reminder that tyrants fear artists, and the unexpected spiritual significance of South Park.
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Do you want to read the Bible without falling behind? I'll send you a PDF to download and use my custom-made reading plan system. There's no way to fall behind on this system and every day will be different no matter how long you use it! https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/opt-in
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Shame-Sex Attraction (with Lucas Wilson) | Ep. 51
What if we told the stories the church has tried to bury? In Episode 51 of Cabernet and Pray, I sit down with Lucas Wilson—academic, editor of Shame-Sex Attraction, and survivor. We dive into the sobering realities of conversion therapy, explore the toxic cocktail of shame and theology, and examine how fear—especially the fear of hell—is weaponized to cause unimaginable harm. Lucas brings a mix of wit, candor, and charm to one of the hardest conversations the church needs to have. If you’ve ever wondered how the church got this so wrong (and how we can start making it right), this one’s for you.
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