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Steve O’Connor is Interviewed by Tom Weaver of Come to the Table Ministry.
They discuss emotional sobriety, connection, and an empathy angle related to the 12 Steps.
01:03 Welcome and Retreat Info
03:11 Steve's  Story Recovery and Coaching Story
12:47 Why Empathy Matters
14:09 Sobriety Versus Recovery
19:03 Defensiveness and Patience
22:10 Scripts and Being Prepared
24:19 Connection and AVR Practice
26:40 Daily Check In Calls
27:18 Connection Beats Defensiveness
28:04 12 Steps + Empathy Angle
35:00 Emotional Sobriety Defined
37:52 Call Up Stick With Winners
42:31 Keep Recovery Simple
44:42 Make The Call
47:38 Build Your Recovery Team
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Tom + Michele Weaver at Come to the Table Ministries:
-Website here.
-Retreats + Conferences here.
-Their Podcast here.
-Email: info@tableministry.com 
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What does a sobriety actually look like? In this episode, Steve breaks down the concrete benefits of recovery, not the absence of sin, but the presence of something better. Integrity. Honesty. Hope.  Not living a double life.
One of the greatest and most underrated gifts of sobriety is time spent in a state of grace - sometimes longer than a man has experienced since childhood. 
If you've been wondering whether recovery is real, it is. 
Steve shares some of the many gifts of sobriety and what you actually gain when you quit the behavior.
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We talk a lot about men and p*rnography. But what about the woman sitting three rows back in the same parish, carrying the same secret, with nowhere to turn? And what about the betrayed husband who just discovered his wife is the one struggling? 
In this episode, Steve sits down with Rachael Killackey, founder and executive director of Magdala Ministries and author of Love in Recovery, to have an important conversation. Women struggle with p*rn too. And the way they struggle, the way they hide, and the way they heal is not the same as men. 
This episode is for the woman who needs help and hope. It's for the betrayed husband who just found out his wife is the one struggling. And it's for every priest and counselor who wants to serve the whole room, not just half of it.
In this episode we cover:
How Rachael founded Magdala Ministries and why she chose Mary Magdalene as its patron
Statistics on women and p*rn
How shame hits differently for women, including what often happens when they bring this to confession
Women's pathways into p*rn, including visual content, erotica, hookup culture, and the growing threat of AI
How women heal
The core wounds beneath the behavior and what men and women actually share at the root
Betrayal trauma when the roles are reversed, what the betrayed husband experiences and what he needs
Episode Timestamps:
01:12 — Saint of the Day
04:13 — Meet Rachael Killackey
05:52 — Founding Magdala
07:30 — Why Mary Magdalene
09:22 — Women and P*rnography, The Reality
10:51 — The Statistics on Women's Use
12:23 — Shame and the Confessional
17:05 — Breaking Isolation Together
20:26 — Women's Hook, Imagination and Erotica
22:46 — Prayer as Rewiring
23:45 — Hookup Culture and Its Fallout
26:30 — Culture, Access, and Normalization
29:53 — How Women Heal
32:29 — Mary, Surrender, and the Path Forward
35:20 — The Core Wounds Beneath the Behavior
37:26 — When the Husband Is the Betrayed Spouse
43:35 — What Magdala Ministries Offers
45:22 — Love in Recovery and Words of Hope
About Rachael Killackey: Rachael Killackey is the founder and executive director of Magdala Ministries, the first Catholic ministry of its kind specifically for women healing from sexual addiction. She holds bachelor's and master's degrees in theology from Ave Maria University, is pursuing her certification in sex addiction therapy, and has personally walked with over a thousand women through stories of shame, secrecy, and healing. Her book Love in Recovery is available through Ave Maria Press.
🌐 magdalaministries.org 📖 Love in Recovery - avemariapress.com
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In 2025, the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops released Create in Me a Pure Heart- a landmark document addressing p*rnography, its devastation, and the Church's responsibility to respond. 
In this follow-up conversation with Joshua Urrutia, we go beyond the document itself and into the realities it names: the loneliness driving individuals to p*rnography in the first place, the p*rnography industry's deliberate targeting of children, the betrayal trauma impact on marriages, and what it actually looks like to walk toward healing in all of it.
00:58 Episode Welcome and Guest
01:39 Saints and Recovery Themes
04:09 Bishops Document Overview
05:11 Key Takeaways Loneliness Trauma
06:37 P*rn and Loneliness Stats
11:09 Isolation and Inner Child
15:23 Grooming and Tech Access
18:37 Phone Safeguards and Tools
22:30 Neuroscience of Addiction
25:15 Dopamine And Denial
25:50 Neurobiology Visual Tools
26:58 Betrayal Trauma Explained
28:12 D-Day Discovery Shock
30:41 Patience And Living Amends
33:47 Support Groups And Disclosure
36:23 Helping Others Stay Free
38:45 Practical Recovery Strategies
41:08 Church And Family Action
45:05 Resources And Farewell 
Referenced in this episode: Create in Me a Pure Heart document— United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, 2025 Available at usccb.org
About Joshua Urrutia: Joshua Urrutia is a Licensed Professional Counselor-Associate and ASAT Candidate with Intuitus Group in Texas. He holds a Master's in Counseling from Divine Mercy University, is EMDR trained, and is a verified member of the Catholic Psychotherapy Association. Joshua works with individuals and couples navigating compulsive sexual behavior, betrayal trauma, and the intersection of faith and mental health.
Website: intuitus-group.com 
Phone: (512) 650-8018 
Email: joshua@intuitus-group.com
HELPFUL LINKS:
-Join an amazing group of men in the Finally Free Group here.
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Steve O’Connor hosts special guest Casey Allison, founder of Come Awake Coaching and Consulting.  
Casey is a Master Certified Coach through ICF, an APSATS-certified Partner Coach, a Certified Disclosure Guide through Kintsugi Recovery Partners, a PSAP through IITAP, and a Brainspotting practitioner. She also has training in the perinatal period with betrayed women, and additional training to support partners of sex addicts who have criminally sexually offended, whether they’ve been charged or not. She holds many other trainings and certifications as well.
Casey shares how discovering her husband’s secret sexual life led her, after years of ineffective help and multiple practitioners, to find betrayal-trauma-informed support and eventually serve women navigating betrayal, pregnancy/new motherhood, and cases involving sexual offending. They discuss how uninformed resources can harm partners by blaming them, and share indicators of good support: prioritizing safety and stabilization, validating grief and anger, and aiming for post-traumatic growth rather than “going back.” 
They emphasize the importance of truth and a collaborative Full Disclosure, including the Partner Impact Statement and Emotional Restitution letter, to restore mutuality, reduce shame, and foster empathy. 
Casey shares about her Catholic women’s Facebook group and her coaching groups, and offers hope that healing is possible. Tune in and share!
Time Stamps:
Show Intro
01:13 Saint of the Day Reflection - St. John Baptist de LaSalle as a model of radical surrender
03:25 Meet Casey Allison
04:56 Casey's Story and Calling
08:13 Finding Trauma Informed Help
11:51 Safety, Stabilization, Grief, Anger and Growth
14:24 Why Full Disclosure Matters
17:21 Team Based Disclosure Support
22:04 Power, Control and Mutuality
25:06 Impact and Restitution Letters
29:47 Catholic Women Facebook Community
33:41 Casey Groups and Programs
38:29 Closing Hope and Next Steps

Links for Casey:
Free initial consultation: https://www.comeawakecoach.org/p/packages_4.html
Support groups: https://www.comeawakecoach.org/p/community.html
Workshops and Events: https://www.comeawakecoach.org/p/promotions.html
Digital Resources: https://comeawakeresources.company.site/
Released to Heal Group (starting April 15th): https://www.comeawakecoach.org/p/released-to-heal-support-group.html
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