Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

A back pack and a bloody glove discovered are the latest discoveries in the search for Nancy Guthrie.
Both items are found by volunteer searchers. Are they related to the Guthrie case?
Joining Nancy Grace today:
Josh Kolsrud - Criminal Defense Attorney and Former Assistant U.S. Attorney, Founder of Kolsrud Law Offices; Facebook and YouTube @KolsrudLawOffices
Jon Buehler - Former Detective for Modesto Police Department in California (31 years in robbery and homicide)
Scott Eicher – Digital Forensics Expert, Founding Member of the FBI’s Cellular Analysis Survey Team (C.A.S.T), and Former FBI Agent of 22 years; Former Homicide Detective, Currently with Precision Cellular Analysis
Suzanna Ryan - Laboratory Director and Forensic DNA Analyst at Pure Gold Forensics, and Forensic DNA Consultant at Ryan Forensics; X: Sryan4n6DNA
Dave Mack - Investigative Reporter, 'Crime Stories'
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The search for Savannah Guthrie's mother, Nancy Guthrie, who has been missing for nearly four weeks, remains active, according to authorities in Arizona.
A 72-year-old Navy veteran from Jacksonville, who had been missing for over a week, has tragically been found deceased in Georgia, according to local authorities.
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A mural of murdered Ukrainian refugee Iryna Zarutska has been vandalized and graffitied with spray paint.
"PLEASE VANDALIZE THIS,” the tagger scrawled.
The tribute had been complete for less than two weeks before the damage.
Iryna Zarutska, a Ukrainian refugee, came to the United States with her family to escape her war-torn country for a better life. Iryna took English classes, had a job and was making a productive life for herself, but all her aspirations were cut short by an unprovoked violent attack from a man with a criminal history.
Video shows Iryna getting on the train in Charlotte, North Carolina, taking a seat, and looking at her phone quietly. Video shows a passenger sitting directly behind Iryna, who we later came to know as Carlos Brown Jr.
A close-up of Brown's hands can be seen opening and unfolding the knife in order to prepare to stand up to stab Iryna. Although Iryna's hat covers a lot of her face, the shock in her eyes, along with the terror she silently expressed during her final moments of life, bleeding out, surrounded by panic, is heartbreaking to watch.
The video also shows Brown, in an orange hoodie, walking the aisles of the train with blood dripping on the floor. One passenger notices blood drops and avoids stepping in them, while another witness on the phone with 911 tells them a man just stabbed a woman for no reason, and she needs help.
Moments after allegedly stabbing Iryna, Brown is captured on video nonchalantly walking the platform of the train station.
On the train, Brown was wearing a hoodie; now he is wearing a black t-shirt, with the now bloody hoodie wrapped around his hands.
In reaction to the shocking and violent death of Iryna Zarutska, North Carolina Governor Josh Stein just signed "Iryna's Law" into effect, increasing checks on criminals getting out on bail and prohibiting cashless bail for some violent crimes and most repeat offenders.
A grand jury indicted Brown for the murder of Iryna, formally charging him with first-degree murder. Brown is being held without bond in the county jail, but an order was filed for him to be committed to Central Regional Hospital.
Allegedly, he has been diagnosed with schizophrenia and also has a lengthy rap sheet of criminal behavior.
Joining Nancy Grace today:
Randy Kessler - Atlanta Trial Lawyer, Emory Law School Professor, Past Chair ABA Family Law Section, Author of "Divorce, Protect Yourself, Your Kids and Your Future;" Instagram: @rkessler23, X: @GADivorce
Caryn Stark - Forensic Psychologist, Renowned TV and Radio Trauma Expert and Consultant; Instagram: carynpsych, FB: Caryn Stark Private Practice
Andy Kahan - Director of Victim Services and Advocacy at Crime Stoppers of Houston; Facebook: "Andy Kahan and Crime Stoppers of Houston;" X: @AKahanCrimeSto1; Instagram: AndyVictimAdvocate
Ron Bateman - Former Homicide Detective, Former Undercover Narcotics Agent, Former Sheriff; Author of Crime Fiction Series, “Silent Blue Tears." and “Opposing Sides: Memoirs of a Drug Dealer and a Detective," with Co-author Billy Joe Nichols (coming soon!); TikTok: @Ron.Bateman.655
Dr. Thomas Coyne - Chief Medical Examiner, District 2 Medical Examiner's Office, State of Florida; Forensic Pathologist, Neuropathologist, and Toxicologist; X: @DrTMCoyne
Susan Hendricks - Journalist, Author: “Down the Hill: My Descent into the Double Murder in Delphi;" IG @susan_hendricks X @SusanHendicks
Dave Mack - Crime Stories, Investigative Reporter
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On April 3, 2025, two girls ate chocolate-covered raspberries.
Four days later, Ines de Bedout, 14, and Emilia Forero, 13, pass away. They were reportedly poisoned with thallium, injected into the raspberries.
Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack find the bottom of the truth barrel and share how an entrepreneur contestant on "Shark Tank" wins the grand prize, and loses her boyfriend.
She also allegedly kills his daughter, travels the world while on Interpol's Most Wanted list, only to jump in the Thames after arriving in Great Britain.
Transcribe Highlights
00:01.91 Introduction - The Thames
02:33.39 Poison deaths
06:28.24 Woman flees to Great Britain, jumps in Thames
12:14.90 Suspect accused of Poison child of former boyfriend
17:46.65 Substances that are now illegal
23:32.66 What would symptoms look like?
28:36.25 2 girls dead, one girl with "life changing injuries"
34:05.06 Lithium batteries and thallium
39:13.40 Conclusion
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UPDATE: Miracle Nmamani has been found safe.
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