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TODAY'S SHOW: In this episode of Monero Talk, Douglas Tuman talks with JP from THORChain to discuss the project’s renewed effort to integrate Monero (XMR) into its decentralized cross-chain liquidity protocol. JP explains why an earlier 2022–2023 integration attempt stalled due to limitations in Monero's old multisig system and security concerns, and reveals THORChain is now developing a new threshold signature scheme to make Monero swaps trust-minimized and scalable. He outlines an expected rollout through the Vultisig wallet, stagenet, and finally mainnet by Q1 2025.
The conversation explores the role of privacy in crypto, competition and collaboration with projects like Serai and Haven, and THORChain’s return to its core mission as a decentralized custodian network. JP emphasizes Monero's importance for financial sovereignty and future AI-driven economies, and invites the Monero community to contribute to the integration effort.
TIMESTAMPS:
(01:15:00) - Guest introduction and discussion about Monero and Thorchain.
(02:18:00) - Thorchain's development and multi-sig technology.
(05:00:00) - Discussion on Thorchain's decentralized liquidity pool network.
(08:50:00) - The Haven team and potential Monero integration with Thorchain.
(10:49:00) - Updates on the threshold signature scheme for Monero.
(12:07:00) - Timeline for implementing Monero on Thorchain.
(13:24:00) - Monero as digital cash and its privacy benefits over Bitcoin and Zcash.
(16:51:00) - Zcash's privacy model compared to Monero's.
(18:25:00) - Monero's place in decentralized exchange systems.
(19:28:00) - How decentralized exchanges like Thorchain compare with centralized ones.
(21:02:00) - Monero's liquidity challenges and efforts to improve.
(23:21:00) - Competition between Thorchain and Serai (Luke Parker’s project).
(26:36:00) - Encouragement for more people to contribute to Monero's ecosystem.
(29:39:00) - Shift from private key-based wallets to threshold signature wallets.
(32:15:00) - Open-source commitment and possible collaboration with Sarai on threshold signature schemes.
(35:00:00) - Building for Monero: Threshold signature libraries and their future.
(38:28:00) - Making Thorchain more accessible for Monero integration.
(39:01:00) - Current progress on Monero integration and Thorchain’s roadmap.
(42:42:00) - Monero’s potential future with decentralized exchanges.
(45:58:00) - Thorchain's liquidity model and rebuilding after setbacks.
(49:36:00) - Thorchain’s expansion and lending features.
(51:33:00) - The future of Thorchain and its role in the decentralized finance space.
(54:29:00) - Deflationary mechanics of Thorchain’s native token, Rune.
(57:33:00) - Building a seamless wallet experience for Monero users within Thorchain.
(01:00:29) - The resilience of Thorchain and Monero’s synergy.
(01:02:09) - Onboarding new users and the balance between decentralization and user accessibility.
(01:05:55) - Closing remarks: Cypherpunk roots and the future of Monero and Thorchain.
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