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- What happens when the Ted Bundy story is told by someone who actually knew him?
Shea and Ellicia are fresh from Grit City After Dark, a night of Pacific Northwest true crime at Tacoma's Spanish Ballroom featuring retired Tacoma detective Lindsey Wade, Pulitzer Prize-winning author Caroline Fraser, and Ted Bundy's cousin Edna Cowell Martin.
Edna Cowell Martin, co-author of Dark Tide: Growing Up With Ted Bundy, offers a perspective dramatically different from the infamous mythology surrounding Bundy: what it was like discovering that someone she had known and loved within her family was capable of terrible crimes.
Lindsey Wade, author of In My DNA, brings the investigator's perspective through her career with the Tacoma Police Department, including her work on cold cases.
And Caroline Fraser, author of Murderland: Crime and Bloodlust in the Time of Serial Killers, zooms out to look at serial murder and the Pacific Northwest through a broader historical and cultural lens.
Then the rabbit hole gets personal.
Ellicia talks about her work as an assistant producer on Killing Theodore, a documentary project that has sought to move the conversation away from the mythology surrounding Ted Bundy and toward the people affected by his crimes.
We're talking about cold cases, DNA, family secrets, true-crime storytelling, Tacoma history, and the uncomfortable question underneath all of it:
How do we tell these stories without making the killer the most important person in the room?
In this episode
Ted Bundy and the mythology built around him
Edna Cowell Martin and Dark Tide: Growing Up With Ted Bundy
Lindsey Wade and Tacoma cold cases
Caroline Fraser and Murderland
Grit City After Dark in Tacoma
Ellicia's work as an assistant producer on Killing Theodore
Victims, families, investigators, and the ethics of true-crime storytelling
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When Jody and I first talked about this story back in 2023, it felt like something out of a true crime documentary that was still being written.
At the time, several women had been found dead across the Portland area, rumors of a serial killer were spreading everywhere, and investigators were publicly saying they had no reason to believe the cases were connected.
A lot has changed since then.
In this bonus episode, I take a step back and walk through the entire story from the beginning, from the disappearances that first raised concerns to the growing list of indictments prosecutors have now filed against Jesse Lee Calhoun. What started as a handful of seemingly unrelated cases has evolved into one of the most significant homicide investigations Oregon has seen in years.
As always, it's important to remember that these are allegations. Calhoun has pleaded not guilty, and the case has not yet been decided in court.
A Story We Couldn’t Stop Thinking About
This case has been in the background of the podcast almost from the beginning.
When we first mentioned it, nobody knew whether the deaths were connected. Some people thought the serial killer theories were overblown. Others were convinced something bigger was happening.
Looking back now is fascinating because we get to see how the investigation unfolded in real time and how dramatically the public understanding of the case changed over the past few years.
From Wildfires to Murder Charges
One of the most surprising parts of the story has nothing to do with the investigation itself.
Years before his name became tied to these allegations, Jesse Lee Calhoun was one of the inmates who helped fight Oregon's devastating 2020 wildfires. His service earned him clemency and an early release from prison.
Today, prosecutors allege he is connected to the deaths of six women across the Portland metropolitan area, transforming what was once a local mystery into a case being followed throughout the Pacific Northwest.
What We Cover in This Episode
How the story first landed on our radar
The disappearances that started the investigation
Why rumors of a serial killer spread so quickly
The evidence timeline prosecutors have laid out so far
The indictments announced between 2024 and 2026
Why one alleged victim's body has never been recovered
What happens next as the case moves toward trial
A Final Reminder
This is still an active criminal case.
The charges discussed in this episode are allegations made by prosecutors and have not been proven in court. Jesse Lee Calhoun has pleaded not guilty, and the outcome will ultimately be decided through the legal process.
If you've been following this case since we first covered it years ago, this episode brings everything together in one place and catches you up on where the investigation stands today.
Stay curious, and we'll see you down the next rabbit hole.
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Most people think of the U.S.-Canada border as quiet, friendly, and uneventful. But behind a quirky bed-and-breakfast in Blaine, Washington, one of the strangest border stories in modern North American history was unfolding.
This week, Shea sits down with author Reece Jones to discuss his new book Smuggler: Drugs, Gangs, and Refugees at America's Northern Border. What begins as the story of a roadside inn quickly turns into a tale involving smugglers, asylum seekers, Border Patrol agents, underground networks, and a Supreme Court case that continues to shape debates about federal law enforcement today.
At the center of it all is Bob Boulay, the owner of the Smuggler's Inn, whose backyard quite literally sat on the international border.
In This Episode
The Strangest Property in America
The Smuggler's Inn wasn't just near the border. It was on it.
Reece explains how Bob Boulay accidentally became a border innkeeper and found himself witnessing everything from drug trafficking operations to refugee crossings. What started as a simple real estate investment became one of the most important crossroads on the U.S.-Canada border.
Why Refugees Chose Canada
A major theme of the conversation is the little-known history of asylum seekers traveling through the United States to reach Canada.
Reece breaks down how changes to Canadian immigration policy unintentionally transformed the Smuggler's Inn into a destination for people fleeing persecution from places including Afghanistan and Turkey.
The Supreme Court Case That Changed Everything
The story eventually landed before the U.S. Supreme Court in the landmark case Egbert v. Boule.
The discussion explores how one confrontation between a Border Patrol agent and Bob Boulay evolved into a legal battle with major implications for constitutional rights, federal accountability, and border enforcement.
About Our Guest
Reece Jones is a professor of geography and environment at the University of Hawaii and the author of multiple award-winning books on borders, migration, and immigration policy. His latest book, Smuggler: Drugs, Gangs, and Refugees at America's Northern Border, was co-written with attorney Greg Boos.
Learn more about Reece and his work: 🔗 https://www.reecejonesauthor.com/
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Good news, rabbit holers: Jody is officially back.
After taking time away to focus on family, travel, and life outside the studio, she's rejoining Shea behind the microphones. But this isn't just a welcome-back episode. It's a look at where Rainy Day Rabbit Holes is headed next and why the show is evolving.
After three years of producing episodes, meeting incredible listeners, and building a community neither host expected, Shea and Jody are making some changes designed to keep the podcast fun, sustainable, and full of the stories they love telling.
Why We're Changing Things
Weekly episodes have been rewarding, but they've also been demanding. Rather than rushing to produce content every week, Rainy Day Rabbit Holes is moving to a seasonal format.
Starting in 2027, listeners can expect:
Three themed seasons per year
Six episodes per season
More research and deeper storytelling
Guest interviews between seasons
Special rabbit holes that don't fit into a larger theme
The goal is simple: better stories, less burnout, and more room for curiosity.
A Sneak Peek at 2027
The upcoming seasons are shaping up to be some of the most ambitious yet:
Season One: Villains
Con artists. Grifters. Outlaws. Criminal masterminds. Strange and forgotten villains you probably haven't heard much about.
Season Two: Heroes
Inventors, scientists, explorers, doctors, civil rights pioneers, and everyday people who accomplished extraordinary things.
Season Three: Folklore & Mysteries
Cryptids, hauntings, strange legends, unexplained events, local lore, and the kind of weird stories that make perfect rabbit holes.
Building a Bigger Community
One unexpected part of creating the podcast has been meeting listeners who became genuine friends.
In this episode, Shea and Jody reflect on:
Live events in Tacoma
Meeting listeners in person
Growing the Patreon community
Why fan connections have become one of the most rewarding parts of podcasting
They also share ideas for future live events, listener involvement, and expanded Patreon perks.
UFO Festivals, Men in Black, and Other Future Shenanigans
The hosts also discuss their growing involvement with the annual Men in Black Birthday Bash and plans being explored for the 80th anniversary of the Maury Island Incident in 2027.
Expect:
UFO-themed events
Community gatherings
Independent films
Local history
Plenty of tongue-in-cheek mystery and folklore
No alien conversion required.
Just curiosity.
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Recorded live before a packed audience at McMenamins Elks Temple's Spanish Ballroom in Tacoma, Washington, this episode follows the remarkable life of Kathleen Eloisa Rockwell, better known as Klondike Kate, one of the most colorful and influential figures of the Klondike Gold Rush.
While history remembers theater magnate Alexander Pantages, few remember the woman whose talent, charisma, and financial support helped launch the beginnings of his empire. Tonight, we're fixing that.
From Spokane to New York, from Chilean convents to Yukon dance halls, Kate's life was a whirlwind of adventure, scandal, romance, reinvention, and larger-than-life storytelling.
Gold, Gambling, and the Queen of Dawson
When news of gold discoveries in the Yukon ignited one of history's greatest stampedes, thousands of prospectors poured north through Seattle in search of fortune. Most failed.
Klondike Kate, however, discovered there was often more money to be made entertaining miners than digging beside them.
In Dawson City, she became a sensation.
Known as the Rose of the North, the Darling of Dawson, and the Queen of the Yukon, Kate earned extraordinary sums as a performer while capturing the affection of an entire city. Unlike many of the boomtown celebrities of her era, Kate built a reputation for generosity, remembering names, helping struggling miners, and sharing her success with those around her.
But fame and fortune would also bring her face to face with the ambitious young entrepreneur who would change the course of her life: Alexander Pantages.
The Woman Behind the Pantages Empire
Long before the Pantages name became synonymous with legendary theaters across the West Coast, Alexander Pantages was a struggling newcomer chasing opportunity in the Yukon.
Kate believed they were building a future together.
She financed ventures, supported his ambitions, and helped fund the theater business that would eventually make him one of the wealthiest entertainment figures in America. While Kate toured and earned money, she continued investing in what she believed was their shared dream.
Then she discovered he had secretly married another woman.
The fallout led to a highly publicized breach-of-promise lawsuit, heartbreak, and one of the most dramatic chapters in Gold Rush history.
Reinvention, Resilience, and Aunt Kate
Many stories would end there.
Kate's didn't.
After the spotlight faded, she reinvented herself repeatedly. She tried ranching in Oregon, survived financial setbacks, weathered failed relationships, cared for friends and strangers in need, and eventually became a beloved local figure known simply as "Aunt Kate."
Far removed from the glamorous stages of Dawson City, she spent her later years feeding the hungry, helping neighbors, supporting firefighters, and turning kindness into her final act.
By the time she passed away in 1957, Klondike Kate had lived more lives than most people could imagine.
Showgirl. Homesteader. Philanthropist. Celebrity. Scandal. Legend.
And somehow, after all of that, she also became the inspiration for Glittering Goldie from DuckTales.
Not bad for a woman history almost forgot.
In This Episode
The Klondike Gold Rush and the rise of Dawson City
How Klondike Kate became the Queen of the Yukon
The surprising origins of the Pantages theater empire
Alexander Pantages and his complicated relationship with Kate
Gold Rush entertainment and boomtown culture
Kate's famous lawsuit against Pantages
Homesteading in Central Oregon
Aunt Kate's philanthropy and community work
The Hollywood adaptation that never quite happened
The DuckTales connection to Klondike Kate
Special Thanks
Recorded live September 16, 2026, at McMenamins Elks Temple Spanish Ballroom in Tacoma, Washington.
Special thanks to:
McMenamins Elks Temple
PACK (People for Animal Care and Kindness)
Radio Tacoma
Pretty Gritty Tours
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Related Episodes
If you enjoyed this journey into Gold Rush history, larger-than-life frontier personalities, and the strange world of the Yukon, check out these related Rainy Day Rabbit Holes episodes:
Madame Mustache: The Wild West's Most Badass Gambler
Another legendary woman of the Gold Rush era who built a reputation in boomtowns where few women could thrive.
https://www.rainydayrabbitholes.com/podcast/madame-mustache-the-wild-wests-most-badass-gambler
The Sourtoe Cocktail Club
Klondike Kate spent much of her life in Dawson City, home of one of the world's strangest traditions: the Sourtoe Cocktail. Learn the bizarre history behind the infamous mummified toe.
https://www.rainydayrabbitholes.com/podcast/sourtoe-cocktail-club
Hugh Glass: The Man Who Refused to Die
Survival, hardship, and determination on the North American frontier. If you enjoyed the grit and resilience in Kate's story, this one is for you.
https://www.rainydayrabbitholes.com/podcast/hugh-glass-the-man-who-refused-to-die
Lou Graham: Seattle's Powerful Madam & Secret Philanthropist
Like Klondike Kate, Lou Graham became a legendary woman of the Pacific Northwest whose charitable legacy often gets overshadowed by her colorful reputation.
https://www.rainydayrabbitholes.com/podcast/19-lou-graham-seattles-powerful-madam-secret-philanthropist
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Klondike Kate's story sits at the intersection of Gold Rush history, Pacific Northwest legends, forgotten women, frontier entrepreneurship, theater history, and larger-than-life personalities. If you're fascinated by boomtowns, colorful characters, and people who repeatedly reinvented themselves against impossible odds, these episodes make excellent companions to tonight's rabbit hole.
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Rainy Day Rabbit Holes explores unhinged history, wild scandals, and politicians behaving badly - those moments when history went completely off the rails. Funny, curious, and unapologetic, hosts Shea and Jody break down the past like a late-night hang with your besties who just happen to love history.Visit www.rainydayrabbitholes.com for more!Proud member of MSW Media Network. Instagram https://www.instagram.com/rainydayrabbitholespod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/RainyDayRabbitHolesPodcast/ Support the show! https://www.patreon.com/c/RainyDayRabbitHolesPodcast
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