Rainy Day Rabbit Holes: History Unhinged

The Vietnam War is usually remembered as a conflict fought half a world away. But for the Pacific Northwest, especially the communities surrounding Fort Lewis, the war wasn't something happening "over there." It was happening right at home.
In this episode, Shea is joined by historian, retired Army Reserve Lieutenant Colonel, former Lewis Army Museum Director, and current battlefield historian Erik Flint to explore how the Vietnam War transformed Washington State, the U.S. military, and the South Sound.
From counterinsurgency training exercises in Washington forests to anti-war movements inside the military itself, Erik reveals how Fort Lewis became one of the Army's most important Vietnam-era installations and how the conflict left a lasting mark on Tacoma, Seattle, and the surrounding communities.
Please check out tours with historian Erik Flint! (Psst, he's also now a fellow guide with Pretty Gritty Tours!)
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Fort Lewis Becomes a Gateway to Vietnam
Long before Joint Base Lewis-McChord became one of America's largest military installations, Fort Lewis was already a critical part of the nation's defense infrastructure. During Vietnam, its role expanded dramatically.
As the war escalated, Fort Lewis became a major training center and personnel processing hub for soldiers heading to and returning from Southeast Asia. Hundreds of thousands of service members passed through the South Sound during the conflict, making the region one of the most important military gateways on the West Coast.
Erik explains how Washington's geography, transportation networks, and established military presence made the area uniquely suited to support the war effort. He also discusses the Army's early counterinsurgency training programs, some of which took place on the Olympic Peninsula years before large-scale American involvement in Vietnam.
In this section:
Why Fort Lewis became a major Vietnam-era training center
Early Army counterinsurgency exercises in Washington State
The difference between draftees and volunteers
How soldiers moved through Fort Lewis on their way to and from Vietnam
The South Sound's growing connection to the war effort
Protest, Resistance, and the GI Movement
One of the most surprising stories from the Vietnam era is that some of the strongest anti-war activism came from inside the military itself.
Erik explores the rise of the GI Movement at Fort Lewis, including underground newspapers, anti-war coffeehouses, legal aid organizations, and soldiers who openly challenged military policies and America's involvement in Vietnam.
The conversation dives into publications like Fed Up and the Lewis-McChord Free Press, as well as the broader cultural shifts of the late 1960s that fueled dissent both inside and outside military communities.
Shea and Erik also discuss:
The Fort Lewis Six
National Guard resistance efforts
Anti-war organizing near military bases
Jane Fonda's involvement in local activism
The growing divide between military leadership and younger soldiers
These stories highlight a rarely discussed side of Vietnam-era history: the conflict between military discipline and a generation increasingly willing to question authority.
How Vietnam Changed the Military Forever
The Vietnam War exposed challenges the military could no longer ignore.
Drug abuse, racial tensions, morale issues, recruiting difficulties, and widespread dissatisfaction forced Army leaders to rethink how service members lived and worked. Many of the reforms that followed shaped the modern military Americans know today.
Erik explains how military leaders implemented new equal opportunity programs, improved quality of life initiatives, expanded educational opportunities, and ultimately helped guide the transition from the draft to an all-volunteer force. Fort Lewis once again found itself at the center of that transformation.
Topics include:
Military desegregation and civil rights progress
Equal Opportunity programs
The transition to the all-volunteer Army
Improvements to soldier quality of life
Drug treatment programs for returning service members
How Vietnam influenced modern military culture
The Economic Impact on Washington State
When the war wound down, the economic impact hit Washington hard.
Military employment declined, defense-related spending decreased, and major employers such as Boeing faced significant challenges. Communities throughout the Puget Sound region felt the effects as wartime demand disappeared and the state entered a difficult economic period.
The end of Vietnam wasn't simply a military story. It became an economic and social story as well, affecting everything from jobs and housing to local politics and community identity.
Fact, Folklore & Debate
Fact
Fort Lewis served as a major Vietnam-era training and personnel processing center, connecting Washington State directly to the war effort.
Fact
Anti-war newspapers, coffeehouses, and GI activism existed within the Fort Lewis military community during the Vietnam War.
Fact
The military implemented reforms related to equal opportunity, quality of life, and recruitment during and after the Vietnam era.
Folklore & Ongoing Historical Debate
Stories about returning Vietnam veterans being routinely mistreated remain heavily debated among historians. While documented examples exist, the prevalence and scope of those incidents continue to be discussed.
Key Takeaways
Fort Lewis became one of the Army's most important Vietnam-era installations.
Washington State played a larger role in the Vietnam War than many people realize.
Anti-war activism existed both outside and inside the military.
Underground GI newspapers flourished at Fort Lewis during the late 1960s and early 1970s.
Vietnam accelerated changes in military policies related to race and equal opportunity.
The Army's transition to an all-volunteer force was shaped by lessons learned during Vietnam.
Returning veterans often experienced little transition time between combat and civilian life.
Military reforms introduced after Vietnam still influence service members today.
Washington's economy felt the effects of both the war's expansion and its end.
The legacy of Vietnam remains visible throughout the South Sound.
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If you enjoy surprising military history, unexpected wartime stories, and the strange ways national events shape local communities, these are great rabbit holes to explore next.

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What If We've Been Counting Farts Wrong Our Entire Lives?
For years, scientists believed the average person passes gas about 14 times per day. It turns out that number may have been dramatically underestimated.
In this bonus episode, Shea dives into a wonderfully bizarre study where researchers developed wearable "smart underwear" capable of detecting intestinal gas. The device allowed scientists to measure real-world gas production more accurately than ever before, and the findings were both surprising and hilarious.
But that's only half the story.
Once we're done discussing wearable fart technology, we head to the ocean where a whale's gas reportedly created sounds that were mistaken for a possible underwater security threat. Because apparently even military intelligence isn't immune to the power of a well-timed toot.
In This Episode
The surprising reason the "14 farts per day" estimate may be wrong
How researchers built wearable gas-detecting underwear
Why self-reporting isn't always reliable science
The Human Flatus Atlas project and what researchers hope to learn
The medical importance of understanding normal gas production
The whale fart that allegedly sounded suspiciously like a military threat
Why some of the funniest scientific studies can still produce valuable discoveries
Fact, Folklore, or Speculation?
Fact: Researchers developed wearable technology to measure intestinal gas production in real-world settings and found people may pass gas far more often than previously estimated.
Fact: Scientists are using this data to better understand digestion, microbiomes, and gastrointestinal health.
Reported Incident: Unusual underwater sounds investigated as a potential security concern were later attributed to a whale.
Universal Truth: Farts have apparently been funny for thousands of years.
Coming Soon: Klondike Kate Live!
🎙️ Join us for our upcoming Klondike Kate live show!
Rainy Day Rabbit Holes is heading to the stage to explore the fascinating history, colorful characters, and larger-than-life legends surrounding the iconic Klondike Kate. Expect laughs, fascinating stories, audience interaction, and plenty of unexpected rabbit holes along the way.
For show details, updates, tickets, and upcoming events, visit:
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🎙️ LIVE SHOW – SEPTEMBER 16TH IN TACOMA!
Join Shea Drury and Jody Shaw of Rainy Day Rabbit Holes for a special live podcast recording at the historic McMenamins Spanish Ballroom inside the Elks Temple in Tacoma, Washington.
Long before Tacoma's Pantages Theater lit up Broadway Avenue, a woman known as Klondike Kate ruled the dance halls of the Yukon. She was the "Queen of the Gold Rush," a vaudeville performer, businesswoman, and according to some accounts, a key figure behind the early rise of theater mogul Alexander Pantages.
Follow Kate's story from the chaos of the Klondike Gold Rush to the bright lights of Tacoma as we trace a tale of ambition, money, love, betrayal, and the origins of one of Tacoma's most iconic theaters.
🎟️ Tickets: McMenamins Live Show Event Page
In the 1920s, Americans were told radioactivity was healthy.
Radium appeared in beauty products, toothpaste, drinking water systems, and even medical treatments. But one product stood apart from all the rest. Unlike many "radioactive" products of the era, Radithor actually contained measurable amounts of radium—and people were encouraged to drink it.
This week, Shea welcomes back Radiant Radium to uncover the unbelievable story of Radithor, the radioactive patent medicine that became one of history's most infamous health disasters.
☢️ The Rise of Radithor
Created by self-styled medical entrepreneur William J.A. Bailey, Radithor was marketed as a cure-all capable of restoring energy, improving vitality, stimulating the endocrine system, and even enhancing sexual performance.
Doctors prescribed it.
Patients trusted it.
And many consumers reported feeling better—at least initially.
But beneath the promises of "perpetual sunshine" and scientific progress lurked a far darker reality.
In this episode:
The radium craze that swept America in the 1910s and 1920s
How William J.A. Bailey built a radioactive wellness empire
The bizarre history of irradiated medical devices and "radiation therapy" products
Why consumers believed radioactive products improved health
How actual radium differs from many other so-called radioactive products of the era
💀 The Tragic Story of Eben Byers
One of Radithor's most devoted customers was wealthy socialite and champion golfer Eben Byers.
After suffering an injury, he began taking Radithor on his physician's recommendation.
At first, he felt fantastic.
Over time he consumed an estimated 1,400 bottles.
Then the symptoms began.
What happened next became one of the most famous medical tragedies of the twentieth century and helped expose the dangers of radioactive patent medicines to the public.
Fact: Byers' highly publicized death became a turning point in public attitudes toward radium health products.
🔬 Did Radium Really Make People Feel Better?
The answer is more complicated than you might think.
Shea and Radiant Radium discuss why some users believed Radithor worked, how radium interacts with the body, the placebo effect, and why dangerous health trends can persist long after evidence shows they're harmful.
They also explore surprising modern parallels with today's wellness industry and examine why extraordinary health claims continue to attract believers.
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Hey, it's Shea, popping in for a quick update about what's coming up on the show, and some exciting events!
Come see us LIVE! Wednesday September 16th at the McMenamins Elks Temple in Tacoma Washington.
https://www.mcmenamins.com/events/274791-klondike-kate-and-the-pantages-theater
Check out the Bootleggers Ball! Friday, October 16th in Seattle, Washington.
https://www.strangertickets.com/events/185904773/bootleggers-ball

Want to get in touch? Email me at shea@rainydayrabbitholes.com or reach out on Instagram @rainydayrabbitholespod

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🎤 LIVE SHOW ALERT: KLONDIKE KATE IN TACOMA
Before we get into this week's episode...
Join us on September 16 for a special presentation of Klondike Kate and the Pantages Theater at McMenamins Elks Temple in Tacoma.
Klondike Kate was one of the most colorful figures of the Yukon Gold Rush era, and this live event explores her remarkable story and connection to Pacific Northwest history.
🎟️ Tickets and event details:
Klondike Kate and the Pantages Theater

🚨 NSFW Warning: This episode contains discussion of an adults-only event and mature themes. Listener discretion is advised.
This week on Rainy Day Rabbit Holes, Jody takes us down a rabbit hole that starts with a local noise complaint and quickly spirals into one of the strangest headlines you'll read all year.
A large swingers convention called Swingathon became the subject of widespread attention after neighbors reportedly complained about the sounds coming from the event. The story quickly spread across social media and news outlets, creating one of those rare moments where everyone collectively stops and says, "There's no way that's a real headline."
Rather than focus on the lifestyle itself, we're interested in how unusual stories become cultural phenomena, how media outlets frame bizarre events, and why some headlines are simply impossible to ignore.
Along the way, Jody delivers plenty of laughs, observations, and commentary on a story that somehow gets weirder the deeper you go.
Featured Article
Swingathon Draws Noise Complaints Over Loud Moaning From 1,000 Swingers
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In This Episode
The Swingathon story
The noise complaint that made international news
How weird headlines spread online
Public reaction to unusual events
Media coverage and sensationalism
Jody's hilarious commentary
The strange intersection of privacy and publicity
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