Leadership Conversations // Church And The Neighborhood with Peter Mutabazi
This episode covers what happens when pastors get honest about their shortcomings, their struggles with comparison, and the temptation to trade conviction for comfort. Jason sits down with Peter Mutabazi — foster dad, leader, and advocate — to talk about why so many churches feel like corporations, why some leaders feel stuck on stage, and how authenticity can rebuild trust in a lonely calling.
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Sermon Conversations // It Takes A Church
This episode covers the journey from rescue to redemption through the lens of Peter Mutabazi’s remarkable story. In this episode of Rethink and Return, Jason and Dave reflect on Peter’s transformation—from a nameless orphan in a gutter to a man fathering dozens through foster care—and how his life vividly illustrates the gospel. They challenge us to move beyond healing into purpose, from survival to sacrifice, and into the kind of selfless living that reflects Jesus. Because true wholeness isn’t the finish line—it’s the launch point. It takes a church. It takes us all.
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Sermon Conversations // Making Work Holy
This episode covers the sacred nature of work and the call to pursue both rest and excellence. From the beginning, God modeled meaningful work in creation, revealing that labor is not a curse but a reflection of His character. Rooted in Genesis 1 and 2, this conversation reframes work—not as a means to earn or prove, but as an act of worship. Whether in ministry or the marketplace, we’re invited to work with all our might, not for money or recognition, but for the Lord, trusting that even in eternity, meaningful work will continue.
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Leadership Conversations // Enduring Church Planting with Jeff Wells PT. 1
This episode covers the qualities needed to plant a church. Church planting is hard, but not impossible. Having people by your side, resting well, and enduring the struggle are all ways pastors can remain diligent in their pursuit of bringing the gospel to their local community and beyond.
ABOUT PODCAST //Rethink & Return Podcast brings thought leadership and teaching to pastors, church leaders and the greater Church by rethinking the modern church and returning to the ways of the New Testament church we see in Scripture. With undeniable relevance today, this podcast covers topics like House Church, the stewardship of church space, culture, leadership, and more – as well as supplemental resources and in-depth exposition of Church Project’s weekly sermons. ABOUT HOST //This podcast’s weekly content is created and shared by Jason Shepperd, Founder and Lead Pastor of Church Project and Church Project Network. With decades of experience in planting and leading churches, Jason has started and scaled a movement of thousands of people, gathered in many House Churches locally, and also in different cities, states, and countries defined by a common eDNA (Ecclesiological DNA): decentralized from primary place and priest, that distributes pastoral leadership to empowered lay pastors, who fully pastor diverse, discipleship geographically-based House Church communities which carry out all of the functions of the church. Church Project has focused over $16.5 million in their first 15 years toward gospel-centered ministries and church planting. Jason also leads Church Project Network, a collective of churches aligned around a commitment to be a “Church of House Churches,” and Good City, a city centrality for local ministry collaboration and support.Website: jasonshepperd.comAudio Devotionals: startwith7.comHave Conversations Toward Salvation: goodgodgospel.comChurch Project Network: churchprojectnetwork.comGood City: goodcity.org“A Church of House Churches: An Articulated and Applied Ecclesiology”: https://a.co/d/0vgpSjV
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