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The AI Argument

Frank Prendergast and Justin Collery
The AI Argument
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    EU AI Wake-Up Call, Fable 5 Ban, AI Exam Hacks | EP105

    20/06/2026 | 40 mins.
    Europe has had a major AI wake-up call. Fable 5 got switched off, frontier model access is now political, and suddenly that gloomy “Europe 2031” essay looks a bit less fictional.

    Justin thinks Europe needs speed, money, and fewer rules. Frank thinks copying Silicon Valley’s worst habits is a daft way to proceed.

    Plus: the US government order that triggered Anthropic to shut off access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5, who should control access to powerful AI, could restriction end up helping hackers, and whether students using AI to predict exam questions are cheating or just being smart.

    0:53 Why did Fable 5 get switched off?
    05:07 Who controls access to frontier AI?
    09:46 Does banning Fable 5 help hackers?
    15:27 Is Europe 2031 right about Europe's collapse?
    18:55 Is the EU just too slow to save itself?
    29:30 Must Europe copy Silicon Valley?
    34:52 Should Mistral become Europe’s public AI?
    37:04 Are these kids cheating on their GCSEs?

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    ► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED
    Statement on the US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5
    Europe 2031: What getting AI wrong means for us
    How a group of teens might have just used AI to accurately predict this year’s exam questions
    ► CONNECT WITH US
    For more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.
    Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/
    Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/
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    Fable 5 Guardrails, Dario's China Fears, and Ollie’s Family Spying | EP104

    12/06/2026 | 43 mins.
    Is Anthropic quietly creating a two-tier AI future? Frank and Justin dig into Fable 5 and Mythos-5, the new frontier models raising awkward questions about access, guardrails, cybersecurity risk, and whether the most powerful tools should be reserved for an approved elite.

    Plus: the real cost of using Fable, the backlash over silent model routing, Anthropic’s data retention problem, Dario Amodei’s call for a democratic AI coalition, and whether Ollie is a useful family assistant or a deeply creepy way to hand your life to a chatbot.

    00:50 Would you buy Elon Musk’s SpaceX IPO?
    01:40 Will OpenAI bottle its IPO?
    03:15 Who gets to play with Mythos-5?
    04:04 Is Anthropic building an AI elite?
    07:41 Is Fable 5 just an AI free sample?
    09:00 Did Fable one-shot a Miro clone?
    12:11 Is Fable worth the cost?
    14:13 Are Fable’s guardrails too cautious?
    16:50 Are Fable’s guardrails this easy to dodge?
    18:44 Why did Fable’s silent routing backfire?
    23:14 Will data retention kill Fable adoption?
    25:30 Is Dario creating an AI Iron Curtain?
    33:39 Will profits beat Anthropic’s safety talk?
    37:30 Would you give Ollie AI the keys to your life?

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    ► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED
    Claude Fable 5 and Claude Mythos 5
    Policy on the AI Exponential
    Ollie AI - The Most Powerful Family Assistant
    ► CONNECT WITH US
    For more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.
    Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/
    Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/
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    Microsoft's AI Comeback, OpenAI Sites Side Quest, and Hollywood vs AI | EP103

    05/06/2026 | 39 mins.
    Can Microsoft AI really catch up with OpenAI, Anthropic and Google DeepMind? Frank and Justin dig into Mustafa Suleyman’s Build announcements, the new MAI models, local AI, token costs, enterprise trust, and whether Microsoft needs the best model — or just one good enough to win inside big companies.

    Plus: Anthropic calls for an AI pause while the race keeps accelerating, OpenAI Sites raises awkward questions about side quests and monetisation, and Martin Scorsese’s AI storyboarding work sparks a wider Hollywood debate featuring Reese Witherspoon, Nicolas Cage, James Cameron, Emily Blunt and more.

    00:35 Is Anthropic serious about pausing AI?
    04:29 Is Mustafa Suleyman reviving Microsoft AI?
    06:30 What did Microsoft announce at Build?
    09:37 Does Microsoft need the best AI models?
    11:37 Are token costs making local AI attractive?
    13:28 Can Microsoft spoil the AI IPO party?
    18:33 Is OpenAI Sites just another side quest?
    21:04 Is OpenAI Sites a monetisation play?
    23:29 Is OpenAI Sites an enterprise headache?
    25:53 Is Martin Scorsese replacing storyboarders?
    30:17 Which Hollywood stars are backing AI?

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    ► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED
    When AI builds itself
    Microsoft and OpenAI broke up — now they’re ready to fight
    OpenAI Sites
    Martin Scorsese accused of ‘throwing artists under bus’ with AI storyboards
    The Big Hollywood Anti or Open AI Quiz

    ► CONNECT WITH US
    For more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.
    Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/
    Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/
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    Pope's AI Warning, Warren’s AI Tax, and AI Fruit Drama: The AI Argument EP102

    29/05/2026 | 39 mins.
    Has the Pope become one of AI’s most important moral voices? Frank and Justin dig into Pope Leo XIV’s warning that artificial intelligence needs to be “disarmed”, and what it says about autonomous weapons, algorithmic power, Big Tech, Anthropic, and who gets to shape the future of AI.

    Plus: OpenAI’s relentless release schedule, Anthropic’s new model, the delayed AI jobs apocalypse, Elizabeth Warren’s call to tax AI, and the bizarre rise of AI-generated fruit slop on YouTube.

    Is the Pope right to challenge AI’s concentration of power?

    00:13 Would Polymarket have predicted this?
    01:34 Do AI releases count as news anymore?
    02:34 Why must OpenAI ship every Thursday?
    03:33 Has the Pope declared war on AI?
    06:31 Is the Pope AI’s moral guardian angel?
    08:35 Is Big Tech the new Roman Empire?
    12:02 Why was Anthropic at the Vatican?
    13:14 Is Anthropic baking in Christian culture?
    15:10 Could AI models accidentally find religion?
    18:04 Was the jobs apocalypse just delayed?
    20:43 Is Elizabeth Warren right about taxing AI?
    25:58 Would an AI tax just help DeepSeek?
    28:39 Should Chinese models face AI tariffs?
    30:07 Do we finally have the right AI debate?
    31:03 Is AI fruit better than Netflix?
    33:56 Is AI fruit as bad as Andrew Tate?
    36:46 Is YouTube drowning in AI slop?

    #PopeLeoXIV #Anthropic #OpenAI #AITax #AISafety

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    ► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED
    Introducing Claude Opus 4.8
    LIVE | Presentation of Pope Leo XIV’s Encyclical Magnifica Humanitas from the Vatican | May 25, 2026
    Sam Altman and Dario Amodei are both walking back their AI jobs apocalypse prophecies as they eye blockbuster IPOs
    Elizabeth Warren calls for taxing AI industry to 'invest in people’
    The misogyny-fuelled plotlines behind AI fruit dramas on TikTok

    ► CONNECT WITH US
    For more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.
    Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/
    Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/
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    Google’s ‘Good Enough’ AI, Anthropic Profits, and Monet Gets Roasted | EP101

    22/05/2026 | 36 mins.
    Why did Google I/O feel so underwhelming? 
    Frank and Justin unpack a massive amount of Google AI announcements: huge AI-powered changes to search that could change the web, the muted response to Gemini 3.5 Flash, Gemini 3.5 Pro being pushed back, Gemini Omni’s impressive video and world-model claims, Spark’s carefully staged agent rollout, and Demis Hassabis saying we may be in the “foothills of the singularity”. 

    Plus: Anthropic reportedly moves into profit while OpenAI burns cash, Andrej Karpathy joins Anthropic to work on recursive self-improvement, OpenAI starts selling future compute contracts, Elon loses his OpenAI court case, and AI haters accidentally roast a real Monet painting.

    Who wins the AI race from here: the focused labs like Anthropic and OpenAI, or the tech giants with ecosystems too big to fail?

    00:00 Why is Google I/O so uncool?
    01:06 Is Google search eating the web?
    03:07 Is Gemini 3.5 Pro just not ready?
    05:03 Is Omni the Nanobanana for AI video?
    06:36 Are we in the foothills of the singularity?
    09:23 Is Gemini 3.5 Flash fast but meh?
    12:26 Is Spark Google’s safer OpenClaw?
    15:16 What work should agents actually do?
    17:00 Can Google win by being good enough?
    21:08 Did Anthropic prove AI can pay?
    24:46 Did Anthropic just land Karpathy?
    26:57 Is OpenAI selling tomorrow’s tokens?
    29:50 Why did Elon lose his court case?
    31:49 Did AI haters accidentally roast Monet?

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    ► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED 
    Google I/O '26 Keynote
    Mind-Blowing Growth Is About to Propel Anthropic Into Its First Profitable Quarter
    OpenAI co-founder Andrej Karpathy joins Anthropic
    OpenAI Guaranteed Capacity
    Musk loses OpenAI court battle after jury finds he waited too long to sue
    6.7 million people thought they were ripping apart an AI-generated Monet painting. But it was real
    ► CONNECT WITH US
    For more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.
    Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/
    Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/
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Worried that AI is moving too fast? Worried like me that it's not moving fast enough? Just interested in the latest news and events in AI. Frank Prendergast and Justin Collery discuss in 'The AI Argument'Contact Frank at frank@frankandmarci.comlinkedin.com/in/frankprendergastContact Justin at justin.collery@wi-pipe.comX - @jcollery
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