The Bandwich Tapes

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with Larry Goldings—keyboardist, organist, composer, and one of the most respected musical collaborators working today. Larry has built a career that stretches across jazz, pop, film, television, and session work, but what really stands out in our conversation is his deep commitment to serving the music first.

We start by talking about some of the projects currently on his plate. From a new recording with his organ trio featuring Peter Bernstein and Bill Stewart, to an unexpected and joyful children’s album with tap-dance legend Melinda Sullivan, Larry’s creative world is constantly expanding. Whether it’s instrumental jazz, singer collaborations, or more experimental projects, his curiosity keeps pushing him into new musical spaces.

A major part of the conversation centers on his long-running role in James Taylor’s band. Larry shares how he first connected with James in the early 2000s and what it takes to serve those songs night after night at the highest level. Playing alongside musicians like Steve Gadd, he reflects on what he’s learned about feel, restraint, and the kind of deep musical trust that makes a rhythm section truly work.

From there we head down the rabbit hole into Scary Goldings and Scary Pockets, the groove-driven projects that have introduced Larry to a whole new generation of listeners online. He talks about how those sessions began, why the format encourages spontaneity, and how collaboration and curiosity remain the driving forces behind the music.

For the gearheads and music nerds—myself included—we also revisit a memorable moment from the Michael Brecker “Time Is of the Essence” sessions. Larry recalls the experience of playing alongside Elvin Jones, navigating the nerves of the session, and the unforgettable moment when the music suddenly locked into place.

Along the way, we also get into the craft of organ playing itself—especially Larry’s approach to left-hand bass, and why bass players have influenced his musical language just as much as other organists. At the end of the day, everything comes back to the same principle: serve the feel, serve the song.

Key Takeaways
Larry Goldings’s current creative projects, including a new organ trio record with Peter Bernstein and Bill Stewart.
The unexpected collaboration with tap-dance legend Melinda Sullivan on a children’s album.
How Larry joined James Taylor’s band and what he’s learned from years on that stage.
The musical philosophy of rhythm sections built on feel, restraint, and trust, especially alongside Steve Gadd.
The origins of Scary Goldings and Scary Pockets and how those sessions reached a global audience online.
A behind-the-scenes story from the Michael Brecker “Time Is of the Essence” recording sessions with Elvin Jones.
Why Larry’s organ language is shaped as much by bass players as by other keyboardists.
Music from the Episode
The Shakes — Scary Pockets
Timeline — Michael Brecker
Solid Jack — The Larry Goldings Trio
Disco Pills — Scary Pockets
Arc of the Pendulum — Michael Brecker
About the Podcast

The Bandwich Tapes is a long-form conversation podcast where host Brad Williams sits down with some of the most thoughtful musicians, composers, and artists working today. The show explores the stories behind the music—creative process, collaboration, career paths, and the human experiences that shape the sounds we love.

Connect with the Show

Email: [email protected]

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with Jake & Shelby, a Nashville-based songwriting duo whose music is built on a natural chemistry that you can hear immediately. Our conversation feels a lot like their songs—honest, relaxed, and rooted in the process of figuring things out together.

We start in the middle of a Nashville winter storm in early 2026, when power outages and unexpected downtime forced them to slow down—and unexpectedly reignited their songwriting spark. From there, we rewind to how the two of them first met through Jake’s dad’s music school, and the wide range of artists that shaped their musical instincts along the way, including Taylor Swift, Carrie Underwood, Lizzy McAlpine, John Mayer, Stevie Ray Vaughan, The Cars, and Madison Cunningham.

One of my favorite parts of the conversation is hearing how their duet sound developed naturally rather than by design. They didn’t study classic duos or try to replicate an established formula. Instead, their voices gradually found each other. Jake talks about how he essentially learned harmony from Shelby, and how their blend now feels like one shared musical voice—two distinct tones moving with the same phrasing and instinct.

We also talk about some of the surreal early moments in their career, including the sudden attention that came when Michael Bublé and Kim Kardashian shared their music, amplifying their audience almost overnight. That early exposure opened doors, but it also led them to the next stage of their work: moving beyond the stripped-down Just Us era and into a fully produced debut album recorded across Nashville and Los Angeles.

Along the way, they share how songs typically come together—often starting with a guitar idea, building melody, and shaping lyrics in shared phone notes. Collaboration, for them, means letting the song win when disagreements come up. By the end of the conversation, it’s clear they’ve already built a massive catalog—nearly 100 finished songs—and they’re still very much at the beginning of their story.

Key Takeaways
How Jake & Shelby’s musical partnership began through Jake’s dad’s music school.
The wide range of influences shaping their sound, from Taylor Swift and Lizzy McAlpine to Stevie Ray Vaughan and The Cars.
Why their vocal harmony developed organically rather than by modeling classic duos.
The surprising early boost when Michael Bublé and Kim Kardashian shared their music online.
The shift from their stripped-down Just Us era into a full-band debut album.
How songs often start with guitar ideas, shared phone notes, and collaborative lyric writing.
Why their rule during disagreements is simple: let the song win.
Music from the Episode
Loophole — Jake & Shelby
You Don’t Know — Jake & Shelby
Shut Up and Kiss Me — Jake & Shelby
Falling Out of Love — Jake & Shelby
Morning Light — Jake & Shelby
About the Podcast

The Bandwich Tapes is a long-form conversation podcast where host Brad Williams sits down with some of the most thoughtful musicians, composers, and artists working today. The show explores the stories behind the music—creative process, collaboration, career paths, and the human experiences that shape the sounds we love.

Connect with the Show

Email: [email protected]

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with guitarist, singer, and songwriter Trey Hensley, and it’s a conversation I’ve been looking forward to for a long time. Trey has built a reputation as one of the most electrifying acoustic guitar players around, and we talk about the moment he finds himself in now—stepping back into a solo role after a decade performing as part of a duo. He’s candid about what that transition felt like at first and how embracing that shift has opened the door to new creative possibilities.

A big part of our conversation centers on feel and energy in recordings. Trey and I dig into why so many of the records we love breathe and move in ways that feel alive—often recorded without a click track—and why some of that electricity can disappear when studio perfection becomes the goal. It’s a thoughtful discussion about spontaneity, musical trust, and the value of leaving room for human feel.

We also talk about his upcoming album Can’t Outrun the Blues, releasing March 6. The record leans heavily into an acoustic-forward sound, with most of the performances captured live in the room and minimal overdubs. Trey shares how the project came together, the importance of strong songs at the center of it all, and the collaborators who helped bring the music to life.

Then we look ahead to another exciting chapter: a new electric, country-leaning project with guitarist Brian Sutton. Trey talks about what it feels like to plug in again after years of acoustic focus, the mix of intimidation and inspiration that comes from playing alongside someone like Brian, and how his time on electric guitar has quietly shaped the way he approaches the acoustic instrument.

Along the way, we also get into the realities of modern musicianship—social media and the pressure to produce “content,” stage sound challenges like wedges versus in-ears, bluegrass timing tendencies, and the ongoing challenge of simply hearing yourself onstage. It’s a conversation about music, but also about identity, growth, and trusting your instincts as an artist.

Key Takeaways
What it’s like for Trey Hensley to return to a solo role after a decade performing in a duo.
Why many of the most beloved recordings breathe without a click track.
The philosophy behind recording Can’t Outrun the Blues mostly live in the room.
How focusing on songs first shaped the direction of the new record.
The creative spark—and challenge—of working with Brian Sutton on a more electric project.
How playing electric guitar has influenced Trey’s acoustic phrasing and tone.
Real-world musician topics: social media pressure, stage monitoring (wedges vs. in-ears), and bluegrass timing tendencies.
Music from the Episode
Can’t Outrun the Blues — Trey Hensley
One White Line at a Time — Trey Hensley
Tucson — Trey Hensley
About the Podcast

The Bandwich Tapes is a long-form conversation podcast where host Brad Williams sits down with some of the most thoughtful musicians, composers, and artists working today. The show explores the stories behind the music—creative process, collaboration, career paths, and the human experiences that shape the sounds we love.

Connect with the Show

Email: [email protected]

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with pianist, composer, improviser, label founder, and educator Kris Davis—one of the most forward-thinking voices in creative music today. Our conversation left me feeling genuinely energized. Kris approaches music with a rare combination of curiosity, discipline, and fearless experimentation, and it was a joy to dig into how all of that shows up in her work.

We start with what’s immediately ahead for her: a trip to Hamburg to premiere a newly expanded big band version of a trio piece with the NDR Big Band. Kris shares the very real “composer panic” that comes with catching an engraving mistake right before rehearsal—one of those behind-the-scenes realities of composing that every musician can relate to.

From there, we talk about festivals—especially Big Ears, which feels like its own musical universe—and dive into two major pillars of her work: prepared piano and large-form composition. Kris reflects on studying with pianist Benoît Delbecq, whose approach to prepared piano emphasized rhythm, individuality, and finding a personal sonic vocabulary.

One of the highlights of our conversation is a deep look at her remarkable Solastalgia Suite, written for the Lutosławski Quartet after a commission through Poland’s Jazz to Pad Festival. Kris talks about learning how to write for strings in real time and how the concept of **solastalgia—the grief you feel for your home while you’re still living in it—**became the emotional core of the piece.

We also zoom out into the bigger picture of her work: her leadership role alongside Terri Lyne Carrington at Berklee’s Institute of Jazz and Gender Justice, and her decade-long journey building Pyroclastic Records, a label dedicated to supporting adventurous music and the artists creating it. At its heart, this conversation is about craft, community, curiosity, and the importance of taking creative risks on purpose.

Key Takeaways
The behind-the-scenes realities of composing for large ensembles—including last-minute engraving panic before a premiere.
Why festivals like Big Ears create a unique ecosystem for creative music.
How studying with Benoît Delbecq shaped Kris Davis’s approach to prepared piano.
The creative challenge of writing for string quartet for the first time.
The emotional meaning of solastalgia and how it shaped the Solastalgia Suite.
Kris’s work at Berklee’s Institute of Jazz and Gender Justice alongside Terri Lyne Carrington.
How Pyroclastic Records has grown into an important platform for adventurous and forward-thinking music.
Music from the Episode
Diatom Ribbons — Kris Davis
Interlude (from the Solastalgia Suite) — Kris Davis
Life on Venus (from the Solastalgia Suite) — Kris Davis
Run the Gauntlet — Kris Davis
About the Podcast

The Bandwich Tapes is a long-form conversation podcast where host Brad Williams sits down with some of the most thoughtful musicians, composers, and artists working today. The show explores the stories behind the music—creative process, collaboration, career paths, and the human experiences that shape the sounds we love.

Connect with the Show

Email: [email protected]

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with singer, songwriter, and multi-instrumentalist Sarah Jarosz at a remarkable moment in her career, fresh off multiple Grammy wins, including recent recognition with I’m With Her. We talk about what it actually feels like to experience that kind of validation after years of nominations, and why the support she receives from her hometown of Wimberley, Texas, still means so much, especially with music that reflects on family, time, and staying connected to where you come from.

Sarah shares how I’m With Her, her trio with Aoife O’Donovan and Sara Watkins, became a creative counterbalance to the pressures of solo work. What stands out is how naturally the collaboration works: three distinct musical voices, no ego battles, and an instinctive approach to arranging harmonies and deciding who carries each musical moment. It’s a reminder of how powerful true musical trust can be.

We also explore how her perspective on collaboration has evolved over the years. Early in her career, Sarah felt a strong need to protect her artistic voice. But as she gained experience, she realized that once you truly understand what you bring to the table, collaboration becomes less risky and far more rewarding.

One of my favorite parts of the conversation is a deep dive into the next generation of acoustic musicians, artists with deep bluegrass roots who aren’t confined by genre boundaries. Sarah traces that lineage through musicians like Chris Thile, Punch Brothers, David Grisman, Mike Marshall, Béla Fleck, and Edgar Meyer, framing today’s scene not as a sudden movement but as a continuation of a long and evolving acoustic tradition.

We also nerd out about her time at the New England Conservatory, why she chose it over Berklee, and how her early Kodály training gave her a powerful foundation in ear training and musical intuition. We wrap by talking about what’s next: an upcoming I’m With Her live album, summer touring, and a rare pause in her solo career as she finds herself between record contracts for the first time. In a music industry constantly shifting, from streaming economics to AI, the grounded takeaway is simple: the real thing still matters, and people continue to show up for honest music played by real humans.
Key Takeaways
What it actually feels like to win Grammys after years of nominations.
Why Sarah Jarosz still feels deeply connected to her hometown of Wimberley, Texas.
How I’m With Her works creatively—three voices collaborating without ego.
Why collaboration becomes easier once artists understand their own musical identity.
The lineage of modern acoustic music through artists like Chris Thile, David Grisman, Béla Fleck, Edgar Meyer, and Mike Marshall.
How Kodály training and ear development shaped Sarah’s musicianship early on.
Why the “real thing”—human voices and acoustic instruments—still resonates in a rapidly changing music industry.
Music from the Episode
Jealous Moon — Sarah Jarosz
When the Lights Go Out — Sarah Jarosz
Runaway Train — Sarah Jarosz
About the Podcast

The Bandwich Tapes is a long-form conversation podcast where host Brad Williams sits down with some of the most thoughtful musicians, composers, and artists working today. The show explores the stories behind the music—creative process, collaboration, career paths, and the human experiences that shape the sounds we love.
Connect with the Show

Email: [email protected]