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Dr. Mike Doughty
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  • S10 E1: Guiding Through Change (Insights from Marie Wiles)
    How does one navigate the journey from English teacher to Superintendent? In this episode, I sit down with the recently retired Marie Wiles in a unique in-person interview. We dive deep into her 36-year-long career, from early teaching days and curriculum development to her tenure in various leadership roles, including her time as a BOCES district superintendent. Marie shares her insights on the importance of instructional experience, the challenges of transitioning roles, the value of networks, and her unexpected journey into authoring a book, “Lessons from the Bard: What Shakespeare Can Teach Us about School District Leadership”. This engaging episode unfolds Marie's remarkable experiences and her perspectives on the future of education amid financial uncertainties.   If you have questions, feedback, or suggestions for future episodes, including great non-education books with lessons for school leaders you can email me at [email protected]. I would really appreciate it if you could leave a rating and review on Spotify or Apple Podcasts. It helps a lot. And if you found this episode helpful, please share it with your colleagues. If you are interested in sponsoring the podcast, feel free to contact me directly at [email protected]. Stay connected with me here: Official Website: theschoolleadershipshow.org YouTube: youtube.com/@theschoolleadershipshow Facebook: facebook.com/theschoolleadershipshow Instagram: instagram.com/theschoolleadershipshow   Chapters: 00:00 Introduction and Special Guest Announcement 00:49 Marie Wiles' Early Career in Education 01:46 Transition to Higher Education and Doctoral Studies 05:21 BOCES Experience and Leadership Roles 08:53 Personal Life and Career Moves 17:19 Balancing Lesson Plans and Student Interaction 19:51 The Dunning-Kruger Effect in Leadership 20:31 Challenges and Realities of Leadership Roles 23:23 Gender Disparity in Educational Leadership 25:49 Concerns for the Future of Education 28:48 Hope and Faith in Youth 31:46 Writing a Book: Lessons from Shakespeare 32:03 The Process of Writing and Publishing 37:26 Final Thoughts and Gratitude
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  • S9 E12: Are You a Pig Pen? Self-Awareness & Practical Leadership Skills for Dysregulated Times
    Feeling overwhelmed by the complexities of leadership today? Tune in to learn how building your self-regulation can help you navigate dysregulated times and have more effective conversations. In this episode, my co-host Jenn David-Lang and I had the pleasure of speaking with the amazing Jennifer Abrams, whom I see as a guru of interpersonal relations in education. Jennifer, a full-time international consultant and author of impactful books like Having Hard Conversations and Stretching Your Learning Edge: Growing (up) at Work, joined us to explore the critical topic of self-regulation in dysregulated times. We talked about living in a VUCA world, Volatile, Uncertain, Complex, and Ambiguous, and how we need to build complexity fitness by developing our cognitive, emotional, and psychological skills. Jennifer shared that becoming more self-regulated involves building self-awareness, like cleaning up our emotional "dust". It turns out only about 10-15% of people are truly self-aware, and one way to improve is by bravely asking for 360 feedback from your team. We also dove into practical skills for leaders navigating challenging moments, such as learning to suspend certainty that your way is the only way. Saying "Tell me more" instead of reacting can be incredibly powerful. For extroverts like me, focusing on listening instead of jumping in is key. I shared my favorite tactic when someone is stressed: asking, "How long do we have to make this decision?". This simple question helps shift from feeling "subject" to circumstances to viewing them more "objectively". Jennifer left us with powerful parting advice: "Go have humane, growth-producing conversations. That's the goal.". Jennifer Abrams’ Newsletter: jenniferabrams.com   If you have questions, feedback, or suggestions for future episodes—including great non-education books with lessons for school leaders—email us at [email protected]. Please consider leaving a rating and review on Spotify or iTunes to support the show. Every bit helps! And if you found this episode helpful, share it with your colleagues. Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Contact Mike directly at [email protected]. To explore insightful summaries of top leadership books, connect with Jenn David-Lang at [email protected] or visit TheMainIdea.net.   Timestamp: 00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction 02:08 Understanding Dysregulation and Self-Regulation 07:08 Building Self-Awareness and Team Dynamics 24:00 Mentoring the Next Generation of Leaders 27:29 Balancing Personal and Professional Needs 37:17 Personal Insights and Fun Tangents  
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  • S9 E11: Becoming Your Own Factchecker (News Literacy for Students and Citizens)
    In this episode, I had the privilege of speaking with Howie Schneider, the executive director of the Center for News Literacy at Stony Brook University's School of Communication and Journalism. Howie shared his fascinating journey from a 35-year career in journalism, including being the editor of Newsday, to leading the charge in preparing citizens to navigate today's complex information landscape. We delved into why Stony Brook created the first university course in the U.S. focused specifically on news literacy, defining reliable information not just as "truth," but as "actionable information." Howie explained their crucial realization that teaching these skills at the university level was "way, way too late," which led them to partner with K-12 districts to integrate news literacy into required instruction, starting as early as kindergarten. We discussed the major challenges students (and all of us) face, including information overload, the tension between speed and accuracy, blurring lines between sources, and the impact of our own biases. Howie outlined the essential concepts they teach: slowing down, asking critical questions about sources and evidence, practicing lateral reading, and becoming your own factchecker. He stressed that district leadership and commitment are key to making this transformative change and addressing the equity issue of relying on individual teachers. Our conversation touched on what keeps him up at night, including the slow progress in states like New York compared to others, the crisis facing the news industry, and the overwhelming "tsunami" of misinformation and disinformation we all face. Howie shared valuable advice for school leaders on why this work is urgent and how they can get involved and set an example. Are we ready to empower our students (and ourselves) to confidently discern reliable information in a world awash with news and fakes? Tune in to learn how we can help the next generation navigate the information revolution! If you have questions, feedback, or suggestions for future episodes—including great non-education books with lessons for school leaders—email us at [email protected]. Please consider leaving a rating and review on Spotify or iTunes to support the show. Every bit helps! And if you found this episode helpful, share it with your colleagues. Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Contact Mike directly at [email protected]. To explore insightful summaries of top leadership books, connect with Jenn David-Lang at [email protected] or visit TheMainIdea.net. Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction and Guest Background 00:58 The Birth of News Literacy 04:30 Challenges in News Literacy Education 13:36 Implementing News Literacy in K-12 Education 23:23 Future of News Literacy and Final Thoughts  
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  • S9 E10: Bridging the Implementation Gap in Education
    In this episode, Jenn David-Lang interviews Jenice Pizzuto and Steven Carney about their book Implement with IMPACT: A Strategic Framework for Leading School and District Initiatives. The discussion focuses on their strategic framework for effectively implementing school and district initiatives using research-based practices. They emphasize the importance of including stakeholders, meticulous planning, professional learning, and a human-centered approach to change. The conversation highlights the common pitfalls in implementation, particularly the often-skipped "plan and prepare" stage, and offers actionable insights for educators and leaders looking to close the gap between knowledge and practice. They also introduce their acronym 'IMPACT' as a guide for keeping the human elements in mind during implementation. If you want to learn more, Steven Carney will be doing a workshop on how to make your initiatives and changes go well on September 17, 2025 free for subscribers to THE MAIN IDEA. Consider becoming a subscriber: TheMainIdea.net Additionally, if you're deeply committed to your school's initiatives and want to truly make an IMPACT, tune in to understand the science behind successful implementation and how to apply it in your setting! Jenice Pizzuto's website: https://www.impactleadsucceed.com/ Steven Carney's website: https://www.impactlearnandlead.com/ If you have questions, feedback, or suggestions for future episodes—including great non-education books with lessons for school leaders—email us at [email protected]. Please consider leaving a rating and review on Spotify or iTunes to support the show. Every bit helps! And if you found this episode helpful, share it with your colleagues. Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Contact Mike directly at [email protected]. To explore insightful summaries of top leadership books, connect with Jenn David-Lang at [email protected] or visit TheMainIdea.net.  
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  • S9 E9: How Principals Can Elevate Instructional Impact with Principal Kafele
    In this episode, Jenn David-Lang sits down with renowned educator and turnaround Principal Kafele to discuss his latest—and most personally significant—book: “What Is My Value Instructionally to the Teachers I Supervise?” This conversation zeroes in on the principal’s role as an instructional leader. Principal Kafele makes it clear that the core focus of his message—and his latest book—is on how and why principals themselves must strengthen and own their role as instructional leaders. What You’ll Learn: • Why the principal must lead instructionally • How self-reflection can transform your leadership practice • The 4 levels of reflection: Self-Reflection, Self-Assessment, Self-Adjustment, Self-Improvement • How your school culture either enables or prevents instructional leadership • Why now—at the end of the school year—is the best time to reflect deeply on your role as instructional leader This episode is a powerful call to action for principals to ask the right questions, assess their impact, and return with greater clarity and purpose next year. Learn more about Principal Kafele and his work: principalkafele.com If you have questions, feedback, or suggestions for future episodes—including great non-education books with lessons for school leaders—email us at [email protected]. Please consider leaving a rating and review on Spotify or iTunes to support the show. Every bit helps! And if you found this episode helpful, share it with your colleagues. Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Contact Mike directly at [email protected]. To learn more about Jenn's insightful book summaries and work, reach out at [email protected] or visit TheMainIdea.net.
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