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The Thing We Never Talk About

Timothy Iseler
The Thing We Never Talk About
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    What Happens to Your Money When You Do Nothing?

    31/08/2026 | 15 mins.
    Doing nothing with your money feels safe — but it comes with real costs, both financial and emotional. In this episode, Tim explains why cash is essential for short-term stability but loses value over time to inflation, and why investing anything beyond your cash reserve is one of the most important financial moves you can make. He also explores two emotional patterns that keep people stuck: "the leaky bucket", where money slowly disappears without intention, and the "but what comes next" mindset, where fear of making the wrong decision leads to making no decision at all. The solution to both, it turns out, is the same: define how much cash you actually need, stick to that number, and put everything above it to work for you through investing.

    One Key Takeaway: Making no decision for what to do with your money is itself a decision — and it usually costs you.
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    Angela Hugghins - Esthetician & Owner of Cult of Reason

    24/08/2026 | 59 mins.
    In this episode, Tim sits down with Angela Hugghins, esthetician & founder of Cult of Reason skincare, for a wide-ranging conversation about what it looks like to build multiple businesses on your own terms. Angela shares how she structured her solo practice to protect her hands, her energy, and her lifestyle after nearly 30 years in the industry, why she made a significant price jump despite fears of losing clients, and how she thinks about the break-even math before introducing any new product or equipment. She also talks candidly about the origins of Cult of Reason, the unexpected challenges of running a product business, and the recent purchase of a commercial building to house her businesses and generate rental income.
    Angela's question for Tim: Now that we're landlords, what are the tax advantages of owning commercial real estate, how do we maximize rental income, and what other ways can we benefit from this new structure?
    Key Takeaways:
    Angela capped her working days at four per week after years of overworking, a deliberate lifestyle decision driven by the physical demands of her craft.
    She hired a virtual assistant who spends just 30 minutes a day managing her emails and client communications — a small investment that she says has paid off in stress reduction far beyond its dollar cost.
    After building a wait list of over 200 clients, Angela made a significant price increase, gave clients three months of advance notice without disclosing the exact amount, and lost only three or four people as a result.
    Angela launched Cult of Reason to recreate a discontinued product she had relied on, starting with a single formula developed over two years through a custom cosmetics lab, funded entirely out of pocket.
    She describes Cult of Reason as a passion project that is now self-funding, and identifies supply chain disruptions and tariffs on imported ingredients as challenges she hadn't anticipated when she started.
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    Is This About The Money?

    06/07/2026 | 9 mins.
    A surprising amount of what looks like a money problem is actually something else wearing a money costume. Tim shares a story from his early touring days, when a tour manager's blunt question — "Is this about the money, or is it something else?" — cut through a negotiation in under a minute. He applies that same question to financial planning, using the common example of someone wondering if they're saving enough for retirement: the real issue often isn't the math, it's an unresolved question about priorities. Tim walks through a framework for looking past the numbers to identify what you actually want, then reframing that priority as a matter of identity rather than obligation — a shift that makes it far easier to stick with a plan.
    One Key Takeaway: Before assuming a financial question is just a matter of getting the numbers right, ask whether there's a deeper question hiding underneath it.
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    Katie Cunningham - Producer & Writer-Director

    29/06/2026 | 1h 15 mins.
    In this episode, Tim sits down with Katie Cunningham, a freelance producer and writer-director, for a conversation about risk, identity, and how she built a creative life on your own terms. Katie shares the story of leaving a corporate marketing job in 2022 to write and direct a self-funded short film (even though her finances weren't necessarily ready for the leap), and how that decision led to later creative success. She talks candidly about what it took to rewire a long-held identity as someone who was "bad with money," the practical systems that changed her relationship with her finances, and Produce Your Life, a project she launched to apply a production mindset to everyday life. It's a conversation about building financial confidence step by step and trusting yourself enough to take the leap before everything feels perfectly ready.
    Katie's question for Tim: Can we talk about rewiring my internal story to look directly at and take responsibility for money instead of remaining in a state of chaos?
    Key Takeaways:
    Katie left her corporate marketing job in 2022 to pursue writing and directing, despite knowing that it was a financial risk.
    Before making the leap, she spent months consolidating scattered retirement accounts and reviewing her spending to trim unnecessary expenses — unglamorous groundwork that gave her a clearer picture of where she actually stood financially.
    As a new freelancer, Katie embraced a period of deliberate "unmooredness," traveling and taking on flexible freelance production work without a fixed home base, which matched the freedom she identified as a core value.
    Katie's rules for deciding which jobs to take are built around how a project sustains her lifestyle costs, or whether it's an opportunity to learn from someone she admires (even at a lower rate).
    Katie's biggest piece of advice for freelancers is to know exactly what their lifestyle costs every month, since that number changes everything about which gigs make sense to take and removes a huge amount of background financial stress.
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    You Can't Out Earn Your Spending

    22/06/2026 | 10 mins.
    When people feel financially stretched, it can be hard to decide where to cut back. What if you just focused on earning more instead? It seems like the logical solution — but there's a problem with that logic: almost everyone increases their spending when their income goes up. The result is that you find yourself right back where you started, just at a higher level. In this episode, Tim shares a real example of a household earning over $400,000 a year that still had nothing left over, why trying to out earn your spending rarely works, and a practical framework for building a gap between what you earn and what you spend — and keeping it.
    One Key Takeaway: Earning more won't solve a spending problem. Instead you need to spend below your means, save the rest, and widen that gap every time your income goes up.
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About The Thing We Never Talk About
The Thing We Never Talk About is an educational podcast about personal finance for creatives and other weirdos. We'll discuss managing cash flow with a lumpy income, when to save & when to invest, and how to reduce stress & build confidence when it comes to your money. No hot stock tips, no complicated strategies, and no finance bro jargon. We'll hear from artists, musicians, creative professionals, and other weirdos about how they navigate these questions for themselves. The Thing We Never Talk About is hosted by Timothy Iseler, CFP®, a former recording & touring audio engineer with 18 years experience in the music industry.
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