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- Having more money than you’ve ever had before sounds like a great problem to have (and it is), but it also creates a kind of analysis paralysis that seldom gets talked about. In this solo episode, Tim explores what happens when the rules that work for managing a normal amount of money stop applying, and why doing nothing — letting all the money sit as cash indefinitely — is the wrong move. He walks through a practical framework for thinking about sudden abundance: how to figure out how much to keep in cash, how to decide what to invest, and how to match your investment strategy to your timeline and goals.
One Key Takeaway: Define how much you need in the next two to three years and keep that in cash. Everything above that should be put to work by investing it.
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Sign up for the Keep It Easy newsletter. - In this episode, Tim sits down with Matthew Wortz, a New York-based actor who came to the craft after decades in conventional employment. Matt describes how being laid off in his previous job as a web designer led to showing up at an open call for extras on a film set. What started as something to stay active has turned into a serious second career: he's now a SAG-AFTRA member, working his way up through featured background roles, and thinking carefully about what the next phase looks like. Matt shares how the financial habits he learned during previous economic downturns helped him navigate the transition, and what it's like to build something new when you've spent most of your life as an employee.
Matt's question for Tim: I'm thinking about setting up a loan-out company for my acting work. What advice would you give someone who has spent a lifetime in 9-to-5 jobs and is now creating and managing a small business for the first time?
Key Takeaways:
Matthew tried acting after being laid off from a web design role, signing up to be an extra almost on impulse, and found that being on set exciting and engaging.
Breaking into the industry as an extra is unglamorous and low-paying, but the network of people doing the same work has helped him find new opportunities.
As a member of the SAG-AFTRA union, Matt is now able to earn more money as an actor. And being reliable on set has led to production staff recognizing him and recommending him for more roles.
Matt's most valuable financial habit during the transition to a new career was having lived through the 2008 layoff, which taught him to move quickly into budgeting mode and adjust his lifestyle to fit the new financial reality.
One practical reason Matt is drawn to the loan-out structure is the paperwork problem: working for many different production companies means receiving pay stubs and 1099s from dozens of sources, and consolidating that into a single business entity would simplify both bookkeeping and tax filing significantly.
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Sign up for the Keep It Easy newsletter. - The stock market is likely to go up over time — but that doesn't help if it crashes right when you need the money. In this solo episode, Tim uses the framing of "insurance" to explain why diversification across cash, bonds, and stocks is a way of managing the known risks that come with each type of investment. Cash protects against short-term market drops; stocks protect against inflation over the long term; and bonds help bridge the gap in between. Tim walks through how adjusting the mix of those asset classes — and diversifying within them — can smooth out the ups and downs to match your timeline and your feelings about risk.
One Key Takeaway: Diversification isn't literally insurance, but it plays the same role: balancing the risks of each type of investment against the strengths of the others so that no single risk can derail your financial life.
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Sign up for the Keep It Easy newsletter. - In this episode, Tim sits down with tour manager & tour accountant Paul Dalen for a candid conversation about money, career, and what it actually takes to make retirement a real possibility after decades on the road. Paul traces a career that has taken him from front of house audio engineering to production management to artist management and back to touring, including a period about 15 years ago when he found himself broke and starting over from scratch in his mid-50s. He talks openly about what that reset taught him, how a combination of fiscal discipline and good fortune in the markets turned things around, and why he thinks the touring industry's culture of financial avoidance does real damage to the people in it.
Paul's question for Tim: When might an S corp or any other corporate entity be worth considering for freelancers?
Key Takeaways:
Paul has spent his entire adult life in the music industry, moving across roles from front of house engineer to production manager to artist manager to tour manager — a career arc shaped more by relationships and opportunity than by deliberate planning.
His approach to underpaid gigs early in his career was to say yes for a short run while making clear it wasn't his normal rate, a move that consistently led to better opportunities.
After his artist management business failed around 15 years ago, Paul found himself broke in his mid-50s and returned to touring with his tail between his legs. His path back to financial stability was built on basic principles — budgeting, fiscal discipline, and consistent investing.
He advises people new to investing to just start somewhere, even imperfectly, rather than waiting until they fully understand how to optimize.
Paul's approach to spending is experiential rather than material: theater, travel, good meals occasionally, and tickets to shows he wants to see. He also notes that not eating out regularly has been one of the quieter contributors to financial stability over the years.
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Sign up for the Keep It Easy newsletter. - Money has different jobs depending on when you need it — and confusing what works for one timeline with what works for another is one of the most common financial mistakes. In this solo episode, Tim walks through the difference between saving money and building wealth, using this definition of wealth as a guide: the ability to do what you want, when you want, with whom you want, for as long as you want. From cash savings for short-term needs, to CDs and Treasury bills for medium-term goals, to stock market investing for long-term goals like retirement, Tim lays out a simple framework for how matching your money to its purpose builds wealth both now and later.
One Key Takeaway: Saving money and building wealth are not the same thing. Match your money to its timeline: cash for the short term, stable interest-bearing accounts or investments for the medium term, and stock market investing for the long term.
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The Thing We Never Talk About is an educational podcast about personal finance for creatives and other weirdos. We'll discuss managing cash flow with a lumpy income, when to save & when to invest, and how to reduce stress & build confidence when it comes to your money. No hot stock tips, no complicated strategies, and no finance bro jargon. We'll hear from artists, musicians, creative professionals, and other weirdos about how they navigate these questions for themselves. The Thing We Never Talk About is hosted by Timothy Iseler, CFP®, a former recording & touring audio engineer with 18 years experience in the music industry.
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