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    Burnham's cabinet: Ed Miliband fails the smell test

    14/07/2026 | 27 mins.
    Who will be in Andy Burnham's cabinet? It looks like Ed Miliband will not be chancellor after all. We have scoops for you about who's in line for the big jobs in the Westminster cabinet reshuffle.
    Burnham needs to make room for allies like Louise Haigh and Lucy Powell, so who will be sacked on Monday when Burnham takes over as prime minister?
    Westminster is like a hornet's nest of briefing and counter-briefing as Wes Streeting, Angela Rayner, Dan Jarvis, Yvette Cooper and others wait to hear what next week will bring.
    David Lammy has organised a whip-round for Keir Starmer's rather odd leaving present.
    And what will Burnham do once he's in post? We look at his immediate priorities and the possibility of a mega fiscal event in the autumn.

    Steven Swinford, political editor, The Times
    Lara Spirit, deputy political editor, The Sunday Times
    Patrick Maguire, chief political commentator, The Times

    Producers: Euan Dawtrey, Harry Kitson
    Executive producer: Molly Guinness

    01:10 - Blocking Ed Miliband From Chancellor
    02:30 - Why the City Doesn't Trust the "London Left"
    03:50 - Will Miliband Accept a Demotion?
    05:05 - The Brutal Briefing War Behind Closed Doors
    06:40 - Defending the "Net Zero Zealot"
    07:45 - Cabinet Jenga: Filling the Great Offices of State
    09:25 - Angela Rayner & The "Day One" Loyalists
    11:05 - The Starmer Purge: Who Is Getting Sacked?
    12:45 - The Yvette Cooper Foreign Policy Question
    15:05 - Secret Policy Clashes: Josh Simons vs. Miatta Fahnbulleh
    17:15 - Angry Loyalists With "Nothing To Lose"
    19:40 - Starmer’s Bizarre Leaving Present
    21:30 - Flying to the World Cup Final
    22:35 - Burnham's Radical Plan for the Cost of Living
    25:00 - The Warning Over a "Mega Budget" & Wealth Taxes
    26:15 - North vs. South: The Growing Regional Rebellion

    Picture: Getty Images

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    Nigel Farage's Clacton by-election gamble

    07/07/2026 | 25 mins.
    A furious Nigel Farage has said he will ‘stick two fingers up to the establishment’ by resigning and then winning a by-election in Clacton. Kemi Badenoch has accused him of having a hissy fit and Andy Burnham has said it's a gimmick designed to distract from questions over undeclared gifts.
    Will the Conservatives and Labour field candidates in the Clacton by-election?
    Will a Reform UK victory in Clacton boost Nigel Farage's standing in the rest of the country?
    And can Nigel Farage be suspended after a parliamentary standards investigation even if he wins the by-election?

    Who is George Cottrell, aka Posh George? Listen to the series here podfollow.com/posh-george

    Steven Swinford, political editor, The Times
    Lara Spirit, deputy political editor, The Sunday Times
    Patrick Maguire, chief political commentator, The Times

    Producers: Euan Dawtrey, Harry Kitson
    Executive producer: Molly Guinness

    Picture: Getty Images
    Audio: Reuters

    Email us: thestateofit@thetimes.co.uk
    This podcast was brought to you thanks to subscribers of The Times and The Sunday Times. To enjoy unlimited digital access to all our journalism subscribe here.
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    Nigel Farage and Posh George: why it matters

    06/07/2026 | 27 mins.
    Nigel Farage could face an investigation by the parliamentary watchdog after a Sunday Times investigation and podcast series raised questions about gifts and benefits in kind that he has received from George Cottrell, a crypto-gambler and convicted fraudster, who's better known as Posh George. Gabriel and Steve discuss how Reform UK has reacted to the story and what could happen next.
    Both George Cottrell and Nigel Farage deny any wrongdoing.

    Listen to the series here: podfollow.com/posh-george
    Episode 3 is out on Thursday 9th July

    Steven Swinford, political editor, The Times
    Gabriel Pogrund, Insight editor, The Sunday Times

    Producers: Euan Dawtrey, Harry Kitson
    Executive producer: Molly Guinness

    Image: Getty/Alamy
    This podcast was brought to you thanks to subscribers of The Times and The Sunday Times. To enjoy unlimited digital access to all our journalism subscribe here.
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    Paranoia in the Labour Party: the Andy Burnham enigma

    02/07/2026 | 19 mins.
    Andy Burnham is keeping his cards close to his chest and no one seems to know who'll get what job. That means there's a huge amount of paranoia and jostling for position the Labour Party. Cabinet ministers and MPs are lavishing praise upon him, but they're worried about his plans - both on policy and personnel. There's a lot of ill-feeling that could bubble up to the surface surprisingly quickly.

    Steven Swinford, political editor, The Times
    Patrick Maguire, chief political commentator, The Times

    Producers: Euan Dawtrey, Harry Kitson
    Executive producer: Molly Guinness

    Picture: Getty Images

    00:00 - Burnham's Intense One-on-One MP Meetings
    00:32 - Paranoia and Panic in the Cabinet
    01:44 - Will Burnham Appeal to Southern Voters?
    02:50 - Desperate Ministers Begging to Keep Their Jobs
    03:40 - The Ghost of 2007: Burnham's "Woman Problem"
    06:13 - Ed Miliband's Chancellor Dilemma
    07:18 - How Departments Are Pandering to Burnham
    08:29 - Is David Miliband Making a Comeback?
    10:54 - The Real Reason Angela Rayner Has Been Weakened
    13:10 - Burnham's Frustration with Westminster "Ambulance Chasers"
    16:56 - A Long Goodbye: Starmer's Farewell Barbecues
    17:30 - The £15 Billion Defence Plan Black Hole
    18:20 - Government Paralysis and the Rochdale Case
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    "You can't have more Milibands than women in top jobs" - Cain and Abel mark II

    30/06/2026 | 29 mins.
    There is considerable intrigue around Andy Burnham's possible cabinet, not least because the eldest Miliband brother is being linked to the position of Foreign Secretary. Are we about to see UK politic's Cain and Able story return for a second round? And most importantly, Is Andy Burnham ready?
    Burnham's debut speech caused headlines with his bold plans to reshape the British state. But there are difficult questions lurking behind the rhetoric, namely what does any of it actually mean? Plus, Reform UK gears up to choose their top candidates to challenge Burnham in his own backyard.

    Steven Swinford, political editor, The Times
    Lara Spirit, deputy political editor, The Sunday Times
    Patrick Maguire, chief political commentator, The Times

    Producers: Euan Dawtrey, Harry Kitson
    Executive producer: Molly Guinness

    Picture: Getty Images
    Audio: Reuters

    Email us: thestateofit@thetimes.co.uk

    00:00 The Return of David Miliband?
    02:53 The Miliband Brothers Psychodrama
    04:23 Labour's "Boys Club" Optics Problem
    08:02 The Brutal Fight for Top Cabinet Jobs
    11:20 How Burnham is Manipulating Westminster
    13:56 Burnham vs Starmer: The Real Difference
    16:27 The Hidden Cost of Devolution (Tax Rises?)
    19:31 What is "Number 10 North" Really About?
    22:31 Why the Tories Fear Ed Miliband as Chancellor
    25:29 Nigel Farage's Secret Plot for the North
    27:35 The £5 Million Farage Crypto Investigation
    This podcast was brought to you thanks to subscribers of The Times and The Sunday Times. To enjoy unlimited digital access to all our journalism subscribe here.
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Real reporting from the coalface of British politics.Join The Times and The Sunday Times’s political heavyweights Steven Swinford, Patrick Maguire and Lara Spirit as they dig deep into the latest tea room tip offs, reveal insider conversations and bring analysis, authority and insight.No party loyalty. No spin. Not hosted by some old politicians. Taking you into the real business of politics, from those who live it daily. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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