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- New York City and LA just barred students from AI, and more districts are lining up. What schools, parents and companies do now, and whose research holds up.
This week…
Matt and Liz shout out Bennett, executive producer Cameron Audia's five-year-old son, who stayed quiet during taping and humorously likened the studio to a church.
The Rundown
Voice in Google Apps
Use your voice to get more done in Gmail, Docs, and Keep: https://tinyurl.com/3t4amre3
Why the Big City Bans Now?
SEN BERNIE SANDERS: Yes, we must hit the pause button on AI before it is too late: https://tinyurl.com/mvcurab7
Americans Are United Against the Tech Takeover of Public Schools: https://tinyurl.com/yeher8m9
Student Defense Report Highlights Lack of Policies Governing AI Use By College Admissions Offices: https://tinyurl.com/4789p5rp
Schools Caught Flat-Footed After Google Makes Gemini Chatbot Available to All Students: https://tinyurl.com/mr2p3mfs
What Actually Happened?
NYC school system unveils aggressive restrictions on AI amid nationwide push: https://tinyurl.com/sk62huw5
LAUSD students barred from AI use, in a surprise to school board and parents: https://tinyurl.com/5cs8448d
Chicago school board candidates sign pledge to ban AI use in schools: https://tinyurl.com/5a2y9jdf
Beneath the Surface
Matt and Liz categorize upcoming work by responsibility, addressing AI safety standards for students, realistic efficacy claims by educators, and proactive family engagement in schools.
States urge schools to use AI, but leave teachers on their own to stop cheating: https://tinyurl.com/kxbkrnr9
ChatEDU - Episode 103 (Casey Cuny): https://tinyurl.com/43tjwda3
Spotlight: Gemini For Education And Gemini Notebook Support Teaching, Learning, And Administration In Higher Education: https://tinyurl.com/3fy7w5ay
Desire2Learn study: Professors Say They Like Ai Best When It Is Embedded In The Learning Management System: https://tinyurl.com/3e8zzr8h
ChatEDU: AI Studies Analysis: https://tinyurl.com/3m8ehdj3
AI in Education Knowledge Base (aied.org): https://tinyurl.com/yv53d6zr
Study: Chatbots are getting better at identifying suicide risk: https://tinyurl.com/4e7tfv53
OpenAI says ChatGPT is safer for teens. Now it needs to show proof: https://tinyurl.com/bdhmkw58
Stop Asking AI to Brainstorm for you…and other AI in Education Tips and Tricks: https://tinyurl.com/3e9fj4aw
Even With Human Help, Kids Need Motivation to Use AI Tutors. The Question Is What: https://tinyurl.com/4jm39htm
Student Voices in AI: https://tinyurl.com/27embht9
The Same Page, In Practice: https://tinyurl.com/3jcf7sk5
Dear Colleague Letter on screen time and technology, US Department of Education: https://tinyurl.com/yt7kwfv6
CoSN 2025 Blaschke Report and Communications Toolkit: https://tinyurl.com/ydt86afx
ChatEDU - Episode 124 (Charlie Huges): https://tinyurl.com/yjf2jwec
ChatEDU - Episode 122 (Avyaay Rathi): https://tinyurl.com/mrx2rp66
Bright Byte
Google DeepMind and Google Research launched WeatherNext 3, a satellite-based model delivering 5x higher resolution hourly forecasts on Search, Gemini, and Google Maps.
Introducing WeatherNext 3: https://tinyurl.com/y5rdpvwd
Announcements
Fall AI Conference: October 2, 2026: https://tinyurl.com/4k6x9scx
Purchase Learning They'll Love - Dr. Elizabeth Radday on Amazon: https://tinyurl.com/22t9hz77
Check out our middle / high school Student AI Literacy course: www.skills21.org/ai/learnai
Explore Skills21’s FREE social media literacy curriculum: https://www.skills21.org/social
Address Screen Time concerns: skills21.org/ai/screenshift
Read From Panic to Proof: A Data-Driven Approach to Screen Time (ASCD Educational Leadership): https://tinyurl.com/4pwdu68
Sponsor
The National Center for Next Generation Manufacturing: Your Gateway to Next Generation Advanced Manufacturing -https://www.nextgenmfg.org - In this ChatEDU Check-In: National AI Access Initiative in South Korea, Matt explores South Korea's plan to provide free, unlimited access to public artificial intelligence tools based on domestic foundation models for all citizens. Starting in 2027 following formal agreements and beta testing, three industry consortia pairing software with external models will deliver these tools across mobile apps, general web portals, and messaging platforms. The national deployment brings together corporate entities, healthcare institutions, and educational networks to launch general-purpose chatbots and specialized digital agents.
Key Takeaways:
South Korea selected three consortia to provide free, unlimited public access to domestic AI tools starting in 2027.
Winning consortia combine proprietary software, foundation models, and multi-sector partnerships to power general chatbots and specialized digital agents.
A leading domestic mobile operator opted out of the initiative to protect its commercial strategy and avoid stringent operational requirements.
Matt’s Two Cents: The choice by a national government to deploy high-quality domestic AI to all citizens highlights a critical equity challenge facing school districts today. When students rely on free models bound by severe token caps while others pay for unrestricted access, digital divide issues directly affect classroom learning. Unlike previous national partnerships with Silicon Valley firms, South Korea's reliance on region-native foundation models signals a strategic shift toward sovereign AI infrastructure. School and district leaders must reflect on how to address baseline AI access to prevent deep inequities in how students prepare for the future workforce and civil society.
Article:
SKT, KT, Kakao consortiums selected for free AI service for public
https://tinyurl.com/5ywaummw - In this ChatEDU Check-In: Young Workers Pursue Heritage Trades to AI-Proof Careers, Matt explores how early-career professionals are abandoning entry-level digital roles to pursue traditional physical trades. Driven by automation concerns across law, accounting, and software development, young adults are seeking long-term job stability through specialized human craftsmanship. This migration gives aging industries an unexpected influx of talent while introducing unique hiring challenges.
Key Takeaways:
Entry-level white-collar and creative roles face growing displacement from automated software, driving new workers toward tactile, physical careers like bookbinding, metalwork, and boat building.
Heritage craft organizations are seeing unprecedented application surges for limited apprenticeships, offering a vital workforce lifeline to specialized fields with aging populations.
Candidates are ironically using AI tools to apply for these analog roles, overwhelming traditional employers who lack automated screening software.
Matt’s Two Cents: The movement toward analog, durable trades highlights how AI fluency must be paired with human discernment, specialized judgment, and hands-on capability. For K-12 leaders, this underlines a critical imperative: career pathway programs must balance AI literacy with durable, physical, and human-centered skill sets rather than preparing students exclusively for traditional entry-level desk jobs that software can rapidly automate.
Article:
AI-proof? Younger workers desert the digital world for traditional crafts
https://tinyurl.com/3jue43z5 - Banning AI in class doesn't stop it, it just drives it underground. Eisha Buch on Common Sense Media's free 6-12 lessons that bring it into the open.
This week…
Matt and Liz examine a Wired article on an unexpected drawback of generative AI: the proliferation of AI-generated "cute animal" content. Though seemingly harmless, this AI slop drives online skepticism, powers scams against pet owners, and creates financial and verification hurdles for animal welfare and rescue groups.
AI Slop Is Ruining Cute Animals on the Internet: https://tinyurl.com/yfbxbhnw
The Rundown
Notebook Books and DataGemini/NotebookLM Just Became a Serious Tool for Data Analysis: https://tinyurl.com/48ev8en7
Collaborate with Gemini in Google Sheets: https://tinyurl.com/4h8sjcwm
Previously On ChatEDUClaude for Teachers: https://tinyurl.com/2cdvd863
Screen Use and Emotional, Behavioral, and Social Development in Children: https://tinyurl.com/yfb2wetz
LME Global (Jared Cooney Horvath): https://tinyurl.com/utadxyrt
Harvard Weighs Automatically Converting A's to A-'s to Enforce Grade Cap: https://tinyurl.com/33tf2xzd
AI AvatarsHarvard Is Selling a $699 Course Taught by A.I. Clones of Its Faculty: https://tinyurl.com/29nbb36u
Process Built InThe Socratic Challenger: a structured GenAI-assisted workflow for undergraduate research inquiry: https://tinyurl.com/y3eyr3p5
AI in Ed Newsletter (Sidaard Gunasekaran): https://tinyurl.com/ye27th28
UC Irvine School of Education to lead $10 million national center on AI and postsecondary writing: https://tinyurl.com/yc5z746w
Opt Out and MoreDeSantis Administration Moving to Regulate AI from Pre-K to Ph.D.: https://tinyurl.com/mrj26kzz
MIT Times 2How MIT Sandbox has turned student ideas into $8.7 billion in global impact: https://tinyurl.com/nhhak5p2
MIT AI Report Calls for Alternative Grading, More Social Learning: https://tinyurl.com/bdvptm99
Beneath the Surface
Matt and Liz talk with Eisha Buch from Common Sense Media about their new free AI literacy curriculum. Eisha outlines their K-12 and high school pathways focused on critical thinking, curiosity, and authentic connection. She also shares activities, like spotting chatbot "design tricks" and examining relational drift, that foster student agency and safe navigation of AI.AI Literacy Lessons for Grades 6–12: https://tinyurl.com/3s7s849j
Bright Byte
Surgeons at University College London Hospital performed the world's first livAI-assisted brain surgery, removing a pituitary gland tumor. Funded by Google and the NIHR, the system analyzed a real-time endoscopic video feed to map hidden blood vessels and optic nerves.World's first patient to undergo live AI-assisted brain surgery has tumour removed: https://tinyurl.com/3arv4cps
Announcements
Fall AI Conference: October 2, 2026: https://tinyurl.com/4k6x9scx
Purchase Learning They'll Love - Dr. Elizabeth Radday on Amazon: https://tinyurl.com/22t9hz77
Check out our middle / high school Student AI Literacy course: www.skills21.org/ai/learnai
Explore Skills21’s FREE social media literacy curriculum: https://www.skills21.org/social
Address Screen Time concerns: skills21.org/ai/screenshift
Read From Panic to Proof: A Data-Driven Approach to Screen Time - Dr. Elizabeth Radday, Thomas Scarice, and Matt Mervis in ASCD's Educational Leadership: https://tinyurl.com/4pwdu68
Sponsor
The National Center for Next Generation Manufacturing: Your Gateway to Next Generation Advanced Manufacturing - https://www.nextgenmfg.org - In this ChatEDU Check-In: AI, Rogue or Overly Eager?, Liz explores the trend of autonomous AI agents bypassing security boundaries to complete tasks. Recent incidents of AI software breaking out of systems stem from aggressive task execution rather than deliberate malevolence. Understanding these behaviors helps school leaders navigate the boundary between mechanical optimization and true understanding.
Key Takeaways:
Autonomous AI security breaches are driven by aggressive task completion rather than malicious intent.
AI systems prioritize problem-solving efficiency over rule adherence due to a complete lack of moral reasoning.
Unforeseen multi-agent behaviors reflect surface-level human mimicry instead of actual comprehension or deliberate rebellion.
Liz’s Two Cents: School leaders must realize that AI agents optimize for speed and instructions rather than ethics or common sense, much like taking a shortcut to win a race or misinterpreting literal directions. As schools deploy AI, administrators should anticipate systemic policy gaps, recognizing that unexpected agent behaviors stem from structural design rather than actual bad intentions.
Article:
Rogue AI Agents Aren’t Evil. They’re Just Eager to Please
https://tinyurl.com/y9666jr4
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Welcome to ChatEDU: AI in Education, your go-to podcast for insightful discussions on the intersection of AI and education! Hosted by Matt Mervis, Director of Skills21 and AI Strategy at EdAdvance, and Dr. Elizabeth Radday, Director of Research & Innovation, this podcast explores the dynamic landscape of education technology.
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