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Handle with Care

Adam Charlap Hyman and Laura Kugel
Handle with Care
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    Episode 7: Louis Bofferding

    23/04/2026 | 32 mins.
    Episode 7 of Handle with Care is really the show’s pilot. Adam and Laura interviewed Louis Bofferding over a year ago, in his fabulous Manhattan treasure trove. Louis is a dealer in art and design, an art historian, and an inimitable storyteller. He specializes in the lesser-known or forgotten stories of artworks and has a rare ability to set the scene and transport you back to the moment an object was made.

    The trio discuss the cornerstone topic of provenance, not from a legal perspective but from a narrative one: how much value do the stories objects carry bring? What is the appeal of a complete provenance, or of a work having none at all? If you like this episode, you will love Louis’ outstanding website, where he details in length the stories of his amazing finds.
    Follow our adventures @adamcharlaphyman and @laurakugel_
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    Episode 6: Jeanne Greenberg Rohatyn

    05/03/2026 | 33 mins.
    In Episode 6, Adam and Laura visited Jeanne Greenberg Rohatyn, founder of Salon 94 and Salon 94 Design, at her home on 94th Street — configured as part gallery, part entertaining space, and part family home. In her beautiful living room, surrounded by a painting by Julie Mehretu, a table by Diego Giacometti, a steel bow stool by Maria Pergay, and a whimsical ceramic gourd by Taxile Doat, they discussed Jeanne’s views on cross-collecting, the need for a renewed generation of design patrons, and behind-the-scenes anecdotes from her upbringing and life as an art dealer.
    Find out more about Salon 94 and Salon 94 Design, or follow Jeanne @jeannegr
    Follow our adventures @adamcharlaphyman and @laurakugel_
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    Episode 5: Peter McGough

    12/02/2026 | 35 mins.
    In Episode 5, Adam and Laura speak with New York–based artist Peter McGough. In 2019, Peter published his remarkable memoir "I’ve Seen the Future and I’m Not Going: The Art Scene and Downtown New York in the 1980s", recounting with wit and sincerity the story of his artistic duo with David McDermott, their experience as time-travellers reliving through the Victorian era, and his encounters with Keith Haring, Jean-Michel Basquiat, and Andy Warhol, among many others.

    In this episode, Peter shares his views on growing up gay in Syracuse, his singular artistic sensibility, his outlook on decorating, and offers a detailed account of his legendary work in tribute to the Oscar Wilde trial.

    Find out more about Peter's memoirs here or follow him @petertmcg
    Follow our adventures @adamcharlaphyman and @laurakugel_
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    Episode 4: Zack Winokur

    29/01/2026 | 39 mins.
    In 2026, Handle with Care returns with Episode 4, featuring New York–based theatre and opera director and producer Zack Winokur. In this episode, Adam and Laura dive into the art of set design, with Adam and Zack reflecting on their long-standing collaborations and how their shared belief in the power of world-building for the stage has evolved over time.

    The conversation moves between various influences, from 18th-century trompe l’œil to radical contemporary productions, including a show featuring sheep herded by a giant zeppelin at New York’s Armory.
    Find out more about Zack Winokur here, or follow him @winokurz
    Follow our adventures @adamcharlaphyman and @laurakugel_
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    Episode 3: Robert Couturier

    04/12/2025 | 39 mins.
    In Episode 3, Adam and Laura visit Robert Couturier, a legendary interior decorator who discusses the philosophical and psychological sides of the profession. With his infectious humor and enthusiasm, Robert speaks about how he worked with only one (fabulously wealthy) client for ten years, shares tips for working on the interiors of private jets, and unpacks how he built the multifaceted and international practice he has today.
    Find out more about Robert Couturier here, or follow him @real_robert_couturier
    Follow our adventures @adamcharlaphyman and @laurakugel_

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About Handle with Care

A podcast by interior designer Adam Charlap Hyman and antiques dealer Laura Kugel, featuring guests who are usually irreverent, often idiosyncratic, and always experts in their corner of decorative arts and interior design. Loosely defined, the field becomes a springboard for conversations spanning art, design, collecting, antiques, theatre, architecture, history, and photography. While the topics may vary, each conversation possesses the same emotional and ideological core: to interrogate the forces that drive our material culture.
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