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Welcome to Madang.
Madang is the outdoor living room of the world. Here, we invite you to sit and tune into unreserved, remarkable conversations with renowned authors, leaders, public figures, and scholars on religion, culture, and everything in between.
This is the 62nd episode of Madang Podcast hosted by Baptist News Global featuring Drs. Sung Uk Lim and Amy Lindeman Allen. Sung Uk Lim is Associate Professor of New Testament at the United Graduate School of Theology, Yonsei University, South Korea. He is a research fellow in the Department of Old and New Testament Studies at the University of the Free State. He serves on the editorial boards of the Journal of Biblical Literature, Horizons in Biblical Theology, and Political Theology and is chief editor of Korean New Testament Studies. He is the author of Otherness and Identity in the Gospel of John, Amy Lindeman Allen is Indiana Christian Church Associate Professor of New Testament at Christian Theological Seminary. She is on the editorial board of the Journal of Childhood and Religion. She is the author of For Theirs is the Kingdom, The Gifts They Bring, and coeditor of the forthcoming volume New Testament Families in Global Perspectives. They are the coauthor of Parenting Beyond Boundaries in Mark’s Gospel.
On this episode of Madang Podcast hosted by Baptist News Global, Lim, Allen and I talk about their new book, Parenting Beyond Boundaries in Mark’s Gospel. We discuss Markan parenting, ethnoracial identity, collaborative parenting, othering, Syrophoenician mother, and so much more.
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I am grateful to the sponsors of this Madang Podcast episode.
Eerdmans Publishing
I am so grateful to Eerdmans for sponsoring this episode of Madang Podcast. Please get your copy of Parenting Beyond Boundaries in Mark’s Gospel by Lim and Allen today. It is a part of Eerdmans’ biblical studies program, which serves the academy, pastors, and churchgoers with the highest quality of scholarship. It is a wonderful read of Mark and parenting, and this book will open your eyes to the bible. Please check out other excellent books from Eerdmans by visiting www.eerdmans.com
2. Please join me at the Wild Goose Festival. I will be giving a talk on When God Became White and Christian Nationalism, Lisa Sharon Harper and I will be discussing how race, gender, history, and power have shaped both the church and society. I will also do a live Madang Podcast with Thomas Jay Oord. Use discount code “A-GK” to get 50.00 off registration. Go to www.wildgoosefestival.org

Welcome to Madang.
Madang is the outdoor living room of the world. Here, we invite you to sit and tune into unreserved, remarkable conversations with renowned authors, leaders, public figures, and scholars on religion, culture, and everything in between.
This is the 61st episode of Madang Podcast hosted by Baptist News Global featuring Rev. Dr. Rachel Kessler, who is an Episcopal priest serving as campus chaplain at her alma mater, Kenyon College, and rector of Harcourt Parish in Gambier, OH. An “exvangelical” and progressive Christian influencer, she is known on social media as “The Nerdy Priest.” She earned her PhD in Old English literature from the Centre for Medieval Studies at the University of Toronto, and she teaches part-time in the Kenyon English department. She is the author of Nerd Faith: 60 Second Sprints of Spiritual Guidance for the Occasionally Uncool.
On this episode of Madang Podcast hosted by Baptist News Global, Kessler and I talk about her new book, Nerd Faith: 60 Second Sprints of Spiritual Guidance for the Occasionally Uncool. We discuss God, faith, TikTok, Lord of the Rings, deconstructing, and so much more.
I am grateful to the many sponsors of this Madang Podcast episode.
1.Church Publishing
Madang podcast is grateful to Church Publishing for sponsoring this episode. Please order your copy of Nerd Faith: 60 Second Sprints of Spiritual Guidance for the Occasionally Uncool. Please visit www.churchpublishing.org to find all the latest books and resources. Church Publishing Incorporated (CPI) is a leading global, multi-market publisher of a wide variety of books and resources, serving millions of readers.
2. Upper Room
Hey Madang listeners, what if your daily devotional connected you to a larger story of God’s work in the world?
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Welcome to Madang.
Madang is the outdoor living room of the world. Here, we invite you to sit and tune into unreserved, remarkable conversations with renowned authors, leaders, public figures, and scholars on religion, culture, and everything in between.
This is the 60th featuring Dr. James F. McGrath. He is the Clarence L. Goodwin Chair of New Testament Language and Literature at Butler University in Indianapolis. His blog, Religion Prof, can be found on the Patheos network. His books include The A to Z of the New Testament, Christmaker: A Life of John the Baptist, Theology and Science Fiction, and What Jesus Learned from Women. His newest book is Beyond Deconstruction: Building a More Expansive Faith.
On this episode of the Madang Podcast hosted by Baptist News Global, McGrath and I discuss his new book, Beyond Deconstruction: Building a More Expansive Faith. We discuss faith, deconstruction, God, Job, suffering, community, and so much more.
Listen to Madang Podcast on Spotify, Apple, Facebook Reels, or wherever podcasts are streamed.
I am grateful to the many sponsors of this Madang Podcast episode.
1. Eerdmans
Madang podcast hosted by the Baptist News Global is grateful to Eerdmans for sponsoring this episode. Please order your copy of Beyond Deconstruction, James F. McGrath. It will take you on a journey of faith that will strengthen you and carry you forward. Check out all the important books from Eerdmans by visiting www.eerdmans.com
2. Upper Room
What would it look like to live with compassion at the center of your life—toward yourself, your neighbors… even those you might call enemies? In Compassion in Practice: The Way of Jesus, renowned teacher Frank Rogers introduces a path of radical compassion rooted in God’s expansive love for all people—a path that can soften hardened hearts and bring healing, even in the most difficult situations. Along with powerful real-life stories of restorative love in action, this book lays out a series of practices to help you cultivate compassion—for yourself and for others—and to respond to a hurting world with courage, wisdom, and grace. This newly revised edition includes specific practices for compassionate social activism, more interfaith conversation, and a "compassion compass" to help orient you as you travel the path of healing and restoration. Prepare to step heart-first into a challenging world, ready to engage in a new way that beats with the pulse of compassion. Save 20% on Compassion in Practice today—and receive 20% off when you use promo code MADANG at Store.UpperRoom.org/MADANG.

Welcome to Madang.
Madang is the outdoor living room of the world. Here, we invite you to sit and tune into unreserved, remarkable conversations with renowned authors, leaders, public figures, and scholars on religion, culture, and everything in between.
This is the 59th episode of Madang Podcast featuring Kelley Nikondeha. Kelly is a writer, speaker, liberation theologian, and community development practitioner. Together with her husband, Claude Nikondeha, they founded Communities of Hope (an NGO in Burundi), Kazoza Bank, and have an ongoing partnership with the United Nations Capital Development Fund around economic development. She is the author of Jubilee Economics.
On this episode of Madang Podcast, Nikondeha and I talk about her new book, Jubilee Economics, debt, lament, hope, Jubilee, and so much more.
I am so grateful to these wonderful sponsors of Madang Podcast hosted by Baptist News Global.
1. Orbis Books-Madang is grateful to Orbis Books for sponsoring this episode of Madang Podcast hosted by BNG. Please order your copy of Jubilee Economics from Orbis Books. Use the discount code “MAD” for 30% off.
Please visit www.orbisbooks.com to order and check out the other wonderful books from Orbis. They publish “A World of Books that Matter”.
2. Upper Room AS YOURSELF: The Sacred Work of Embodying Grace, By Caroline Vogel
What does it really mean to love your neighbor as yourself? For many of us, loving God and loving others feels natural. But loving ourselves? That’s the hard part. In her new book, As Yourself: The Sacred Work of Embodying Grace, spiritual director and therapist Caroline Vogel invites you into a different way of living—one rooted not in striving, but in receiving. Through honest storytelling, biblical insights, and gentle spiritual practices, Vogel helps you release perfectionism, quiet shame, and open yourself to the truth that God’s grace is already alive within you. What if you didn’t have to earn God’s love? What if you could simply receive it—and live from it? As Yourself is an invitation to slow down, reconnect with the Spirit, and discover what it means to live as God’s beloved—fully, freely, and just as you are. Available now - Save 20% on As Yourself at The Upper Room! Visit store.upperroom.org/Madang - and use promo code MADANG at checkout.

Welcome to Madang.
Madang is the outdoor living room of the world. Here, we invite you to sit and tune into unreserved, remarkable conversations with renowned authors, leaders, public figures, and scholars on religion, culture, and everything in between.
This is the 58th featuring Dr. Kristin T. Lee, who is a writer whose work has appeared in Christianity Today and Sojourners, and a primary care physician serving Boston’s Chinatown community. She writes about faith, culture, books, and solidarity at The Embers and is a contributing columnist to The Covenant Companion. Her passion is highlighting literature written by Asian and BIPOC authors via book reviews and reading groups on Instagram (@ktlee.writes). Lee’s work is informed by her experiences as an adoptive mother, host to refugees, and friend to those affected by incarceration. We Mend with Gold is her debut book.
On this episode of Madang Podcast, Lee and I talk about her new book, We Mend with Gold. We discuss brokenness, immigrant churches, God is not White, Theology of God’s Family, and so much more.
Listen to Madang Podcast on Spotify, Apple, Facebook Reels or wherever podcasts are streamed.
I am grateful to the many sponsors of this Madang Podcast episode.
1. Broadleaf Books-Madang is grateful to Broadleaf Books for sponsoring this episode of Madang Podcast. Please order your copy of We Mend with Gold by Kristen T. Lee. It is a wonderful book that will inform and inspire you. Check out all the important books from Broadleaf books by visiting www.broadleafbooks.com
2. Upper Room-AS YOURSELF: The Sacred Work of Embodying Grace, By Caroline Vogel
What does it really mean to love your neighbor as yourself? For many of us, loving God and loving others feels natural. But loving ourselves? That’s the hard part. In her new book, As Yourself: The Sacred Work of Embodying Grace, spiritual director and therapist Caroline Vogel invites you into a different way of living—one rooted not in striving, but in receiving. Through honest storytelling, biblical insights, and gentle spiritual practices, Vogel helps you release perfectionism, quiet shame, and open yourself to the truth that God’s grace is already alive within you. What if you didn’t have to earn God’s love? What if you could simply receive it—and live from it? As Yourself is an invitation to slow down, reconnect with the Spirit, and discover what it means to live as God’s beloved—fully, freely, and just as you are. Available now - Save 20% on As Yourself at The Upper Room! Visit store.upperroom.org/Madang - and use promo code MADANG at checkout.
3. Central Seminary-This episode is presented by Central Seminary – a historic, accredited, diverse, cross-cultural, and ecumenical seminary. Central Seminary equips students with the theological knowledge, spiritual insight, and practical skills needed to lead in an ever-changing world. Central offers numerous graduate degrees and certificates, including our Certificate in Peace and Justice Ministry, which is facilitated in live, online classrooms. The Certificate in Peace and Justice Ministry will prepare you to lead and serve through social change in areas ​such as racial injustice, economic injustice, the climate crisis, war and violence, and more. To learn more, visit www.CBTS.edu or search for Central Seminary Kansas City.
I am grateful to the many sponsors of this Madang Podcast episode.