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Pet Business Disruptors

Clayton Payne
Pet Business Disruptors
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  • Cat Dad to Innovator: Victor Carpio's Journey with InventorCat
    This week Clayton interviews Victor Carpio, the founder of InventorCat, a company dedicated to improving feline dental health. Victor shares the inspiration behind his innovative product, the dental wand, which was born out of his personal struggles to care for his cat's teeth. He discusses the challenges faced by cat owners in maintaining their pets' dental hygiene and the misconceptions surrounding cat care. The conversation delves into the broader pet industry, highlighting the underserved market for cats compared to dogs, and the evolving consumer behaviours that are beginning to prioritise feline well-being. Victor also reflects on his experience with Dragon's Den, the importance of education in pet care, and his plans for future product development, including a dog-friendly version of his dental solution. KEY TAKEAWAYS Origin of InventorCat: The business was founded out of a personal need to address dental health issues in cats, stemming from the founder's frustrating experience trying to brush his own cat's teeth. Market Gap for Cat Products: There is a significant gap in the pet industry regarding cat products, particularly in dental care. Many cat owners are unaware of the importance of dental hygiene, leading to a high prevalence of dental disease among cats. Innovative Product Development: The dental wand was developed through extensive research and collaboration with feline dental experts, focusing on creating a product that encourages cats to engage in dental care through play rather than traditional brushing methods. Challenges in Customer Acquisition: The business faces challenges in customer acquisition due to the nature of the product, which does not require frequent repurchases. The strategy includes expanding into retail to increase visibility and sales. Growing Interest in Cat Health: There is a growing trend among cat owners to prioritize their pets' health and well-being, particularly in the wake of the pandemic, leading to increased demand for innovative cat products that address various health issues. BEST MOMENTS "I realised how big of an issue this is because in the UK, 85% of cats over the age of three show signs of dental disease." "If you look at the evolution of the dog...cats, there's still a lot of people who let their cat out all day." "I think the industry is further behind than the changes in consumer behaviour." "We are the world's first cat-friendly toothbrush. Truly cat-friendly because the cat is 100% in control of brushing." "It's not that these people who are going into grocery...don't want to give better, they just don't have the knowledge." HOST BIO Clayton Payne is an industry veteran of three decades of working in the pet industry. Brought up working in his parents' pet store, Clayton has seen the industry evolve over five different decades and has been on the cutting edge of the industry since the nineties. Building pet businesses from scratch, establishing multi-national distribution chains and having worked in every aspect of the industry, Clayton has a rare insight into the Pet Industry that is rivalled by few.  Clayton has been the spearhead of many of the industry's changes and has introduced numerous new concepts to market with a trail of success behind him. He has worked in numerous countries within the pet industry, speaks four different languages and has established both import and export relationships on all continents (excluding Antarctica). As well as being COO of one of the UKs fastest growing insect technology companies, Clayton is a Pet industry consultant who has consulted for many household brands and delivers sales training to pet trade professionals. https://www.linkedin.com/in/clayton-payne-a6772244/ https://www.tiktok.com/@petbusinessdisruptors https://www.youtube.com/@PetBusinessDisruptors   This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
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  • From Warehouse to Sales: Clayton Grimes' Journey in the Pet Food Industry
    Today, Clayton interviews Clayton Grimes, a Business Development Manager at Naturediet Pet Foods, a well-established player in the independent pet trade. They discuss Grimes' journey into the pet food industry, starting from his role as a warehouse operative to his current position in sales and marketing. The conversation delves into the evolution of Nature Diet, including its transition from frozen to wet food in Tetra Pak packaging, and the challenges faced along the way. Grimes shares insights on the importance of building relationships with independent pet stores, the value of attending trade shows, and the significance of product quality and support in driving sales. KEY TAKEAWAYS Clayton has a diverse background in the pet food industry, starting as a warehouse operative and progressing through various roles, including marketing and sales, before becoming a Business Development Manager at Naturediet Pet Foods. Naturediet Pet Foods transitioned from trays to Tetra Pak packaging about seven years ago, which has positioned them uniquely in the market. This shift aimed to enhance sustainability, as Tetra Pak is primarily made of recyclable materials. Building strong relationships with independent pet stores is crucial. The guest emphasises the need for ongoing support, communication, and understanding the specific needs of each store to effectively sell the product. Attending trade shows and local events is seen as vital for engaging with customers directly, allowing them to sample products and fostering brand loyalty. The guest believes that personal interactions at these events can significantly impact sales. Working with wholesalers can be complex, especially when they have their own brands to promote. The guest highlights the importance of collaboration and understanding the wholesalers' needs to successfully distribute Naturediet’s products. BEST MOMENTS "I think it's been hard to recover from that in certain degrees." "I believe in the product is that good that if people can try it and love it, that's where it goes." "It's nice to be on the road to recovery, so to speak, and to be on the really positive." "I think the Tetra packs are great for the market." "You have to be a people person. You don't sell anything; you don't take no money." HOST BIO Clayton Payne is an industry veteran of three decades of working in the pet industry. Brought up working in his parents' pet store, Clayton has seen the industry evolve over five different decades and has been on the cutting edge of the industry since the nineties. Building pet businesses from scratch, establishing multi-national distribution chains and having worked in every aspect of the industry, Clayton has a rare insight into the Pet Industry that is rivalled by few.  Clayton has been the spearhead of many of the industry's changes and has introduced numerous new concepts to market with a trail of success behind him. He has worked in numerous countries within the pet industry, speaks four different languages and has established both import and export relationships on all continents (excluding Antarctica). As well as being COO of one of the UKs fastest growing insect technology companies, Clayton is a Pet industry consultant who has consulted for many household brands and delivers sales training to pet trade professionals.https://www.linkedin.com/in/clayton-payne-a6772244/ https://www.tiktok.com/@petbusinessdisruptors https://www.youtube.com/@PetBusinessDisruptors This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
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  • Resilience and Growth: The Impact of COVID-19 on Dofos's Expansion and Infrastructure Development
    In this episode, Clayton sits down with Craig and Ross from Dofos, a third-generation pet shop brand with a rich history. They discuss their journey of transforming a struggling traditional pet shop into a thriving retail business amidst the challenges posed by e-commerce and the pandemic. Craig and Ross also share their experiences of redefining their brand identity, moving away from selling live animals, and focusing on natural products and dog grooming services.  KEY TAKEAWAYS Craig and Ross discuss the evolution of their pet shop, highlighting its 70-year history and the transition from selling live animals to focusing on natural products and services like dog grooming. This shift reflects changing consumer preferences and ethical considerations in the pet industry. Emphasising the importance of customer relationships, the guests advocate for creating a welcoming environment in their shops. They believe that engaging with customers on a personal level, such as offering coffee or treats for their pets, fosters loyalty and enhances the shopping experience. They reveal the significance of streamlining operations to improve customer service. By implementing effective inventory management systems and reducing the workload on staff, they aim to ensure that employees can focus on providing quality service rather than being overwhelmed with stock management. Craig and Ross share their experiences during the COVID-19 pandemic, noting how they seized opportunities to expand their business despite the challenges. They highlight the importance of being adaptable and responsive to market conditions, which allowed them to thrive during a difficult period. BEST MOMENTS "We always wanted an EPOS system, so it was our goal, like, get that store, and save up for an EPOS system and then that'll make us rich." "We focused purely on the identity. Proud not to do Nestle. Proud not to do Mars." "If you go back to when I was a kid, 80s and 90s, there wasn't really a viable way for people to buy things like hamsters and birds." "We were on the verge of rebranding, complete rebrand, because we felt that shops don't close because they're good." "People don't actually give a fuck about a lot of it. You can sometimes go over and above for a customer and just confuse them." HOST BIO Clayton Payne is an industry veteran of three decades of working in the pet industry. Brought up working in his parents' pet store, Clayton has seen the industry evolve over five different decades and has been on the cutting edge of the industry since the nineties. Building pet businesses from scratch, establishing multi-national distribution chains and having worked in every aspect of the industry, Clayton has a rare insight into the Pet Industry that is rivalled by few.  Clayton has been the spearhead of many of the industry's changes and has introduced numerous new concepts to market with a trail of success behind him. He has worked in numerous countries within the pet industry, speaks four different languages and has established both import and export relationships on all continents (excluding Antarctica). As well as being COO of one of the UKs fastest growing insect technology companies, Clayton is a Pet industry consultant who has consulted for many household brands and delivers sales training to pet trade professionals.https://www.linkedin.com/in/clayton-payne-a6772244/ https://www.tiktok.com/@petbusinessdisruptors https://www.youtube.com/@PetBusinessDisruptors This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
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  • The Canine Menu - Building a Brand in a Saturated Market
    In this episode, Clayton sits down with Nick, co-founder of The Canine Menu, a unique hospitality company focused on providing high-quality food and experiences for dogs. Nick shares insights into the evolution of the pet industry, particularly how the pandemic has transformed dog ownership and the demand for dog-friendly spaces. He discusses the challenges of entering the pet food market without a traditional background in the industry, emphasising the importance of hospitality principles in their business model. KEY TAKEAWAYS The canine menu positions itself as a hospitality business for dogs rather than a traditional pet food brand. This distinction emphasises the importance of creating a unique and premium experience for customers, similar to what one would expect in a human hospitality setting. The co-founders, Nick and Jess, bring complementary skill sets to the business. Nick has a strong background in hospitality and sales, while Jess has experience in entrepreneurship and brand marketing, which together help drive the business forward. The idea for the canine menu emerged during the pandemic when dog ownership surged. Observing the lack of dog-friendly offerings in hospitality venues, Jess identified a gap in the market for dog snacks in pubs and cafes. Sourcing natural dog treats presents unique challenges, including the need for long shelf life, cleanliness, and uniformity in product appearance. The founders have had to navigate these complexities to ensure their products meet the standards expected in hospitality settings. The canine menu operates as a business-to-business (B2B) company, focusing on supplying pubs and cafes rather than selling directly to consumers. This strategy helps maintain the brand's integrity and ensures that the products are perceived as special offerings within the hospitality context. BEST MOMENTS "I think fundamentally, yeah, I get a lot of people approach me going, oh, so you've got a pet food business." "We work really, really hard on making sure we're justifying our existence within that occasion." "If you could then buy one of our chews in Sainsbury's, you might go, well actually I'm not so compelled to pick up one of your chews." "If you have a pet, you're still going to have to feed them. However, you might forgo a trip to the pub." "If I could line up 10 perfect customers, who would they be? And they can't really give a solid answer." HOST BIO Clayton Payne is an industry veteran of three decades of working in the pet industry. Brought up working in his parents' pet store, Clayton has seen the industry evolve over five different decades and has been on the cutting edge of the industry since the nineties. Building pet businesses from scratch, establishing multi-national distribution chains and having worked in every aspect of the industry, Clayton has a rare insight into the Pet Industry that is rivalled by few.  Clayton has been the spearhead of many of the industry's changes and has introduced numerous new concepts to market with a trail of success behind him. He has worked in numerous countries within the pet industry, speaks four different languages and has established both import and export relationships on all continents (excluding Antarctica). As well as being COO of one of the UKs fastest growing insect technology companies, Clayton is a Pet industry consultant who has consulted for many household brands and delivers sales training to pet trade professionals.https://www.linkedin.com/in/clayton-payne-a6772244/ https://www.tiktok.com/@petbusinessdisruptors https://www.youtube.com/@PetBusinessDisruptors This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
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  • How Walkie-Talkie Wednesdays Foster Relationships Between Vets and Pet Owners
    In this episode, Clayton interviews Vanessa White, the owner of The Vet Station in Molesey, an independent veterinary practice. Vanessa shares her journey from aspiring vet to running her own clinic, emphasising the importance of community and accessible veterinary care. They delve into the challenges faced by the veterinary industry, including rising costs, the impact of corporate ownership, and the complexities of pet insurance. Vanessa discusses her innovative approach to client engagement, such as her "Walkie-Talkie Wednesday" initiative, which allows pet owners to ask questions without the fear of incurring high fees.  KEY TAKEAWAYS The veterinary industry has shifted towards corporatisation, leading to increased costs and a focus on profit over patient care. Independent practices, like The Vet Station, aim to maintain a more personal, community-oriented approach. The Vet Station offers informal community walks where pet owners can ask veterinary questions without the fear of incurring costs, promoting accessibility and reducing the intimidation often associated with vet visits. A significant portion of pet owners in the UK do not insure their pets, and many insurance policies do not cover the full extent of veterinary costs, leading to financial stress for pet owners when unexpected health issues arise. The cost of veterinary medications has risen dramatically due to corporate practices and the influence of private equity, which can lead to inflated prices for consumers while independent vets struggle to compete with online pharmacies. There is a concern regarding the quality of veterinary prescription diets, with many containing low meat content and high levels of fillers. BEST MOMENTS "I always thought I worked in farm animals, but not many of those in London." "It's got incredibly expensive. The last thing I want is for someone to be so scared of that." "They literally exist to make money." "Hypoallergenic is bullshit. Hydrolyzed is a different thing." "You can treat them just if the dog gets them." HOST BIO Clayton Payne is an industry veteran of three decades of working in the pet industry. Brought up working in his parents' pet store, Clayton has seen the industry evolve over five different decades and has been on the cutting edge of the industry since the nineties. Building pet businesses from scratch, establishing multi-national distribution chains and having worked in every aspect of the industry, Clayton has a rare insight into the Pet Industry that is rivalled by few.  Clayton has been the spearhead of many of the industry's changes and has introduced numerous new concepts to market with a trail of success behind him. He has worked in numerous countries within the pet industry, speaks four different languages and has established both import and export relationships on all continents (excluding Antarctica). As well as being COO of one of the UKs fastest growing insect technology companies, Clayton is a Pet industry consultant who has consulted for many household brands and delivers sales training to pet trade professionals.https://www.linkedin.com/in/clayton-payne-a6772244/ https://www.tiktok.com/@petbusinessdisruptors https://www.youtube.com/@PetBusinessDisruptors This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
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Giving an in-depth look into all aspects of the pet Industry, Pet Business Disruptors tackles everything practical you need to know to succeed in the pet industry. Whether it's starting a pet business, finding a pet industry job or selling to the world's largest Pet businesses the Pet Business Disruptors will explain how to do it and how they DID it. Aimed at everyone from entry-level to corporate CEOs within the industry Clayton and his guests cover new trends, new products and industry movements. Showing insights into what's happening in different markets and tackling common problems and challenges faced by pet industry professionals Featuring Industry Myth busters and critiquing industry products and marketing (both positive and negative). This podcast is not to be missed by people who want to know the REAL truth behind the industry and how to approach it from a position of power!
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