Understanding PDA & Declarative Language | Amanda McGuinness & Julie Holmes SLT
In this episode of Unfiltered Autistic, Amanda McGuinness is joined by Speech and Language Therapist Julie Holmes for an engaging and practical conversation exploring PDA (Pathological Demand Avoidance) and Declarative Language.
Together, they discuss what declarative language is, how it differs from traditional directive communication, and why it has become such an important approach within neuroaffirmative Autism practice. The conversation explores how communication styles can influence nervous system safety, autonomy, trust, emotional regulation, and connection for Autistic individuals, particularly those with a PDA profile.
Julie shares her professional journey into declarative language, including the influence of Linda K. Murphy's work and how child-led, relationship-based communication approaches can support a wide range of communication differences. Amanda and Julie also explore why declarative language is increasingly being used by parents, educators, therapists, and professionals seeking to create more collaborative and supportive environments for Autistic children and young people.
In this episode, we discuss:
• What declarative language is and how it differs from directive language
• PDA (Pathological Demand Avoidance) and the relationship between communication, autonomy, and nervous system safety
• The work of Linda K. Murphy and the Declarative Language Handbook
• Supporting Autistic children through connection rather than compliance
• Child-led and neuroaffirmative approaches to communication
• Declarative language and Gestalt Language Processing
• Practical communication strategies for parents, educators, therapists, and professionals
• Building trust, reducing communication pressure, and fostering collaborative relationships
Whether you are a parent, educator, Speech and Language Therapist, healthcare professional, Autism practitioner, or an Autistic person interested in communication differences, this episode offers valuable insights grounded in neuroaffirmative practice, lived experience, and professional expertise.
About the Hosts
Amanda McGuinness is an Autism & PDA Specialist, educator, speaker, and founder of Little Puddins. She is the Director of Autism Advocacy and Professional Practice at Flourish Autism. Amanda is widely recognised for her work in neuroaffirmative Autism education, visual supports, PDA-informed practice, family advocacy, and professional training across Ireland and internationally.
Julie Holmes is a Speech and Language Therapist, founder of BeMe Therapy, with a passion for neuroaffirmative communication supports, child-led practice, and supporting Autistic and neurodivergent individuals across a range of communication profiles.
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