The Rainbow Connection

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Dr. Greer Kirshenbaum, neuroscientist, author, and doula, joins me for a deeply grounding conversation on how early experiences shape both baby and mother — especially in the context of pregnancy after loss and raising a rainbow baby. We explore the intersection of science and instinct, and what it really means to nurture, connect, and rebuild trust in motherhood after loss. This episode offers a powerful reframe: that the closeness you feel called to offer your baby is not only valid — it’s biologically essential.

We talk about:
How early experiences shape brain development in babies
The neuroscience behind attachment and connection
Parenting a rainbow baby after pregnancy loss
Rebuilding trust in your body and instincts after loss
The impact of nurturing on maternal mental health
Letting go of fear-based parenting narratives
Why closeness is not “spoiling” — it’s protective
The intersection of grief, healing, and motherhood after loss
How to feel more grounded and confident in your parenting choices
This episode is a powerful reminder that grief and beauty can coexist — and that the way you love and nurture your baby truly matters.

Get to know Dr Greer:

Dr. Greer Kirshenbaum is a neuroscientist, author, and educator dedicated to transforming how we understand early development. Trained at the University of Toronto, Columbia University, NYU, and Yale, she brings together cutting-edge research and her lived experience as a mother and doula. Through her work, Greer helps families understand how nurturing the mother–baby relationship supports both infant brain development and maternal mental health. She is the author of The Nurture Revolution and leads a global movement empowering parents to raise emotionally resilient children through connection and care.

Instagram: @drgreerkirshenbaum
Website: www.nurture-neuroscience.com

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📍 Website: thedoulalife.ca
🌈 The Haven — Pregnancy After Loss Support Program: thedoulalife.ca/haven
🕊 RECLAIM — The PAL Birth Course: thedoulalife.ca/reclaim
🌸 Mother Like No Other — Loss Mom Community: thedoulalife.ca/mother
📸 Instagram: @the.doula.life

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Elle Margetson shares the story of her triplets — a pregnancy that began with surprise and quickly became something much bigger than she ever imagined. After conceiving with the help of medication, Elle discovered she was carrying three babies — a moment that shifted everything.

But as her pregnancy progressed, complications arose, and she was faced with infection, medical dismissal, and ultimately premature labour. Her babies were born far too soon — each one alive, each one deeply loved — and each one lost in the days that followed in the NICU.

In this episode, we talk about pregnancy loss, neonatal loss, and what it means to become a mother in the midst of unimaginable grief. We also talk about pregnancy after loss, postpartum mental health, and the complex journey of welcoming a rainbow baby while still carrying the love for the babies who came before.

We talk about:
Conceiving after infertility and PCOS
Discovering a triplet pregnancy
Medical gaslighting and infection during pregnancy
Premature birth and NICU experiences
Losing each of her babies after birth
Grief and identity in motherhood after loss
Pregnancy after loss and the fear that comes with it
Postpartum anxiety and mental health after bringing a baby home
Finding purpose through supporting other loss moms
Holding grief and hope at the same time
This episode is a reminder that grief and love do not exist separately — they live side by side, shaping the way we move forward.

Get to know Elle:

Elle Margetson is a grief therapist, loss mom, and the creator of The Loss Mama Method. After losing her triplets following premature birth in 2021, Elle turned her experience into a mission to support other women navigating pregnancy loss, neonatal loss, and motherhood after loss. Through her work in Superconscious Grief Therapy, she helps mothers release guilt, calm overwhelm, and reconnect with themselves. Based in the UK, Elle has supported over 120 loss moms worldwide — offering a space where healing and remembrance can exist together.

Instagram: @elle.hypnotherapy

Connect with Kristin

📍 Website: thedoulalife.ca
🌈 The Haven — Pregnancy After Loss Support Program: thedoulalife.ca/haven
🕊 RECLAIM — The PAL Birth Course: thedoulalife.ca/reclaim
🌸 Mother Like No Other — Loss Mom Community: thedoulalife.ca/mother
📸 Instagram: @the.doula.life

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In this solo episode, Kristin Mundy reflects on the emotional weight of Mother’s Day after loss while sharing the story of her son William, whose life and passing deeply shaped the creation of Held Through. Through her own experiences with miscarriage, stillbirth, and infant loss, Kristin speaks openly about navigating loss within the medical system, the importance of informed choices, and the sacred moments we get with our babies.
We talk about:
 Grief after Mother’s Day and Bereaved Mother’s Day 
 Kristin’s pregnancy and loss with William 
 Navigating a life-limiting diagnosis during pregnancy 
 The difference between informed and unsupported loss experiences 
 Advocacy, options, and decision making during pregnancy and loss 
 Creating meaningful, sacred time with your baby 
 The impact of birth and postpartum experiences on grief 
 The gaps in care for women experiencing loss 
 The creation and purpose behind Held Through
 Supporting mothers, loved ones, and practitioners through loss 
This episode is a reminder that even in the most heartbreaking circumstances, there can be moments of connection, love, and meaning — and that no mother should have to walk through loss without support.
Get to know your Host:
This is a solo episode with Kristin Mundy — birth, postpartum, and bereavement doula, childbirth educator, and founder of The Doula Life. Based in Hamilton, Canada, Kristin supports women through pregnancy, loss, and motherhood after loss with a compassionate, trauma-informed approach. Her work is rooted in her own lived experience of loss and her mission to ensure no mother feels alone in any part of her journey.
Connect with Kristin:
📍 Website: thedoulalife.ca
🕊 The Held Through Series: thedoulalife.ca/held
🌸 Mother Like No Other: thedoulalife.ca/mother
📸 Instagram: @the.doula.life

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Samantha Vera Cleland shares her journey through pregnancy loss, beginning with an early miscarriage that was minimized by others, and continuing into her pregnancy with her daughter Vera — a baby she already saw as her rainbow after loss. In this episode, Sam opens up about the anxiety of pregnancy after loss, the emotional weight of navigating milestones, and how her identity has evolved as both a bereaved mother and a mother to her living son. Her story is an honest reflection on grief, healing, and the complexity of motherhood after loss.

We talk about:

- Experiencing early miscarriage and the impact of dismissive language around loss
- Why “chemical pregnancy” doesn’t reflect the depth of grief
- The anxiety of pregnancy after loss and daily testing for reassurance
- Navigating the myth of a “safe zone” in pregnancy
- Holding the identity of both a bereaved mother and a present parent
- The emotional reality of postpartum after a rainbow baby
- Learning to carry grief and gratitude at the same time
- The evolving definition of motherhood after loss
- Supporting families through baby loss and changing the narrative
- Finding moments of connection with both babies — here and not here

This episode is a powerful reminder that grief and beauty can coexist and that even after loss, motherhood continues in so many forms.

Get to Know Samantha:

Samantha Vera Cleland is a mental health social worker, bereaved mother, and advocate for families navigating pregnancy and infant loss. After the death of her daughter Vera, Sam’s identity shifted in ways she never expected — shaping how she sees motherhood, grief, and healing. Now parenting her living son, she is passionate about changing the narrative around baby loss and supporting other families through their own journeys. She lives with her husband and their beloved pets, finding comfort in connection, family, and the quiet moments at home.

Instagram: @remembering_verarose

Connect with Kristin:

📍 Website: thedoulalife.ca
🌈 The Haven — Pregnancy After Loss Support Program: thedoulalife.ca/haven
🕊 RECLAIM — The PAL Birth Course: thedoulalife.ca/reclaim
🌸 Mother Like No Other: thedoulalife.ca/mother
📸 Instagram: @the.doula.life

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Lindsay Hall joins me to share her story of infertility, a twin pregnancy, and the devastating loss of her daughter Rosalind after childbirth. In this episode, Lindsay opens up about giving birth to both twins, bringing Josephine home while navigating postpartum grief, and how motherhood after loss asked more of her than she ever expected. She also reflects on her later pregnancy after loss with her daughter Scarlett, and how fear, grief, and hope followed her into that chapter as well.

We talk about:
Infertility and fertility treatments
Discovering a twin pregnancy
Giving birth to twins and experiencing postpartum loss
Losing Rosalind and bringing Josephine home
Navigating postpartum grief while parenting
The long-term impact of loss on motherhood
Pregnancy after loss with Scarlett
Fear, resilience, and continuing forward after loss
This episode is a tender, powerful reminder that grief and beauty can coexist — and that birth, even in loss, can absolutely be sacred.

Get to Know Lindsay:

Lindsay Hall is a mother of four daughters — three earthside and one angel baby — living in Windsor, Colorado with her husband, Bruce. She works part time in the education non-profit space and spends the rest of her time mothering and delighting in her girls. Lindsay’s story reflects the quiet strength it takes to continue forward through loss, grief, and pregnancy after loss.

Instagram: @lindzhall

Connect with Kristin:
📍 Website: thedoulalife.ca
🌈 The Haven — Pregnancy After Loss Support Program: thedoulalife.ca/haven
🕊 RECLAIM — The PAL Birth Course: thedoulalife.ca/reclaim
🌸 Mother Like No Other — Loss Mom Community: thedoulalife.ca/mother
📸 Instagram: @the.doula.life

If you enjoyed this episode, please don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review — it helps get these stories and resources into the hands of the women who need them most. And please share it with someone who could use this kind of support. Your support means so much.