The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales

Chloe Tucker Caine joins the show to discuss her fascinating transition from a national tour leading lady to a high stakes real estate powerhouse on Netflix's Owning Manhattan. She shares the vulnerable reality of arriving in New York expecting a parade only to find herself bartending and eventually running an "illegal" Airbnb business out of her Hell's Kitchen apartment. Chloe opens up about the secret life she led while establishing her real estate career, including sneaking off to vocal lessons and dance classes between property showings because she feared being dismissed as just another "annoying theater kid".

The conversation dives deep into the creation of her viral "property musicals," a niche that blends her performance background with luxury sales to help move quirky listings that had previously sat on the market for years. Chloe reflects on the lessons learned from being cut on the first night of an MTV reality show and how motherhood has shifted her professional perspective from wanting to be a "shark" to simply being her authentic self. From recording her single "Fly High" for her daughter to her dreams of playing Velma Kelly in Chicago, Chloe proves that you don't have to close the door on your passions to find massive success in a new field.

Chloe Tucker Caine is a multifaceted performer and real estate agent who starred as Sophie in the national tour of Mamma Mia!. She is a central cast member on the Netflix series Owning Manhattan and a top agent at the SERHANT. brokerage. In addition to her real estate success, she is the creator of the digital series Chloe in Manhattan and recently released the single "Fly High"

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Bess Wohl joins the podcast to discuss the journey of bringing her latest play, Liberation, to Broadway after a decade of development. She shares the "woo woo" details of her creative process, describing a vision of her characters waiting in a metaphorical doctor's office for her to finally tell their stories. Bess reflects on how the play, which travels between the 1970s Women’s Liberation Movement and the present day, became unexpectedly urgent in the current political climate.

The conversation dives into Bess's transition from an acting student at Yale Drama to an acclaimed playwright, a shift she describes as almost destined. She explains her rebellious approach to writing, from the "masterclass in silence" found in Small Mouth Sounds to the vulnerable, full-ensemble nudity in Liberation. Through stories of her mother’s time at Ms. Magazine and her own experiences in the rehearsal room, Bess highlights how storytelling serves as a visceral exercise in empathy for audiences and actors alike.

Bess Wohl is a Drama Desk and Outer Critics Circle Award winning playwright and filmmaker. Her body of work includes the Tony Award nominated Grand Horizons, as well as Small Mouth Sounds, Make Believe, American Hero, Continuity, Camp Siegfried, and the feature film Baby Ruby. A graduate of Harvard University and the Yale School of Drama, her plays have been produced on Broadway and at major theaters including Ars Nova and Second Stage.

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Irene Sofia Lucio stops by to discuss the journey from being a shy kid in Puerto Rico who had to force herself to raise her hand to starring in some of the most provocative plays on Broadway. She opens up about the intersection of motherhood and art, explaining how becoming a parent shifted her relationship with her body and why creative teams led by mothers are simply more efficient. We also dig into the "white passing" label she carried for years and how she finally decided to fully reclaim her Latinx identity and name in an industry that loves to categorize.

We get into the specifics of her current role in Liberation, including the decision to wear a custom golden armor bust of her own body for opening night and the unique power of performing a nude scene while her father is in the audience. Irene shares how the play explores the history of women's liberation and why physical vulnerability on stage creates a "force field" of safety with her castmates. It is a candid look at how the political climate impacts performance and why gathering in a theater is a form of community building we desperately need right now.

Irene Sofia Lucio is an actor and creator whose Broadway credits include Liberation, Slave Play, and Wit. Her Off-Broadway work includes Our Dear Dead Drug Lord. On screen, she has appeared in In the Heights, Tell Me Lies, The Big Cigar, and co-created the web series Butts. She holds a BA from Princeton University and an MFA from the Yale School of Drama.

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Wayne Brady opens up about the surprising reality that despite his career as an improvisational powerhouse, he considers himself a quiet recluse who never actually aspired to be funny. He breaks down how he approached comedy as a science rather than a natural personality trait and shares the deep work ethic instilled in him by his grandmother in Orlando. We also get a candid look at his "get in where you fit in" philosophy and learn how he thrived as part of an ensemble by scratching the itch to perform whatever role was required.

The conversation takes a vulnerable turn when he recounts the terrified moment he blanked during his audition for Hamilton in front of friends Lin-Manuel Miranda and Thomas Kail. He explains how he recovered from that stumble to land the role of Aaron Burr in Chicago and why he actually finds more comfort in the structure of a script than in the freedom of improv. We also discuss his current role as a talking horse in All In and why he loves playing grounded characters in absurd situations.

Wayne Brady is a multiple Emmy Award winner and Grammy nominee known for his work on Whose Line Is It Anyway? and as the host of Let's Make a Deal. His extensive television credits include How I Met Your Mother, The Masked Singer, Black Lightning, and Chappelle's Show. On Broadway, he has starred in Kinky Boots, Chicago, and The Wiz, and played Aaron Burr in the Chicago production of Hamilton. He is currently starring in All In on Broadway.

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Christiani Pitts stops by to chat about her journey from playing a scene stealing cow in a church nativity play to leading Broadway blockbusters. She shares a hilarious story about how a miscommunication led to her performing stand up comedy at a nightclub at age eleven for an event associated with Dave Chappelle, and how her parents supported her dreams while navigating the tricky world of early industry scams.

We dive deep into her experience starring in King Kong, discussing the technical insanity of acting opposite a massive puppet and how she manifested doing an action movie on stage. She also opens up about her current role in Two Strangers (Carry a Cake Across New York), exploring how the show handles mental health with subtle physicality, the "simplistically complex" set design, and the joy of balancing life as a Broadway star and a mom to a daughter who thinks she is also in the cast.

Christiani Pitts is a history making performer who received critical acclaim playing Anne Darrow in the Broadway production of King Kong. After previously starring as Jane in A Bronx Tale, she played Beverly in the Netflix romantic comedy Resort to Love and starred as Pernessa in Power Book III: Raising Kanan, with additional credits including Elementary, Evil, The Good Fight, Blue Bloods, and Dead Ringers. She is currently starring as Robin in the new Broadway musical Two Strangers (Carry a Cake Across New York).

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