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It's our first on the ground episode live from East Lansing, MI with Governor Gretchen Whitmer!

What can Democrats can learn from the recent results in Michigan?
There may be no one better to weigh in on the future of the Democratic Party and what they're seeing on the ground than Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer. The termed out Governor is not only contemplating her own future, but the future of her party and the country.
That's why, in the middle of campaigning for Democrats up and down the ballot, Governor Newsom sat down in East Lansing to compare notes on winning a state that voted for Donald Trump, the rise of the DSA, leading their respective states, and the road to 2028.
00:00 Live From Michigan!
1:02 Fix The Damn Roads (With Marijuana)
7:44 “My State Voted For Donald Trump Again”
13:24 Two Termed Out Governors Grading Their Terms
25:18: What's It Like Being Vetted for Vice President...
33:20 ...And What's Next For Big Gretch
37:17 Democrats Don’t Have Time To Take A Beat
42:24 Split Legislature to Lasting Legacy
43:51 The Advice You’d Give To The Next Governor
51:14 So…Are You Running? (Actually)
56:09 What Principles Do You Live By?
57:45 Predictions
1:02:30 BTS

Recorded on location at Crunchy's Bar in East Lansing, MI.
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Former D.C. police officer and January 6 survivor Michael Fanone joins the show to talk about Todd Blanche’s confirmation, the J6 Weaponization fund and why MAGA is so determined to let Trump keep embarrassing them. Plus, Fanone recounts the day he nearly died defending the Capitol, its politicization as well as his reaction to Trump’s pardons of January 6 defendants.
00:00 Re-Introducing Michael Fanone
1:06 Datacenters Are A Plague
4:24 “I thought I was going to die a cop” - Understanding Fanone’s Journey
8:26 My disdain for politics and politicians started at an early age
15:39 I Voted For Donald Trump In 2016
17:23 Fanone’s Story of January 6th 2021
37:23 The J6 Riots & Trump’s Weaponization Fund
41:47 How Fanone Reacted To Trump’s Pardons
46:52 Taxing The Weaponization Fund
49:20 MAGA’s Continued Willingness To Let Trump Humiliate Them
56:38 The Tate Brothers, Joe Rogan & MAGA’s Love of Toxic Men
1:05:20 Facing The Most Significant Election Of Our Republic
1:08:08 Predicting Trump’s Future Pardons & The One Job Fanone Wants
1:13:36 Nobody Would Hire Me So I Have To Do This
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David Pakman joins the show to discuss how YouTube, social media algorithms, and artificial intelligence are reshaping politics, public opinion, and our democracy. They discuss why conservative voices often outperform liberals online, the Democratic Party's messaging challenges, and what we can learn about how populist messages spread online.
00:00 Intro
00:33 World Cup Aftermath & The Trump Impact
3:43 The DSA As The Liberal Tea Party
7:15 Does Pakman's Youtube Channel Make Him A Hypocrite?
10:02 The 2028 Election Will Be Determined By Artificial Intelligence & Algorithm Manipulation
12:51 Social Media Platforms Don't Reward Truth
18:04 How to Fight Back Against Algorithmic Manipulation
23:57 How YouTube Has Changed Our Politicians & Killed Authenticity
27:30 Can Nuanced Conversations Ever Travel Online?
30:07 Why The Right Is So Much More Successful Online
32:55 Populism & Independence: Why Bernie & Tucker Break Through & Fox News Is Still Figuring It Out
39:55 We Are Not Prepared For AI To Take Over Our Social Media Feeds
47:17 Loneliness, The Manosphere, and Why The Left Still Fails When it Comes To Toxic Masculinity
50:15 Is Government Moving Too Slowly & What Trump Gets Right
54:01 Pakman's Media Strategy For The Democratic Party & How To Talk About The Economy
1:01:52 The DSA Should Be A Red Alert For The Democratic Party
1:08:53 Biden's Populist Streak & Communication Problems
1:12:38 Is There Any Hope For Democracy In This Media Environment?

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Former New Jersey Governor Chris Christie joins the show to talk about the Todd Blanche confirmation hearings, Trump’s corrupt presidency and why the Jeffrey Epstein scandal always felt different. Drawing on his firsthand experience inside Trump's inner circle, Christie shares his account of how things really worked in the White House, his relationship with the Kushners, and the moment he broke with the former president. They also examine the future of both parties, who the DSA is helping and how Democrats should be speaking about Trump.

00:00 Todd Blanche’s Confirmation Hearing, Reactions, & How To Fix The Justice Department
16:55 The Epstein Files & How Pam Bondi Lost Trump’s Trust
26:17 The Link Between Epstein & The Access Hollywood Tape
29:20 Kushner(s) & Tom Brady
38:50 How Christie Became The Chair of Trump’s Transition Team Over Jared’s Objection
43:21 How Steve Bannon & Jared Kushner Handled Personnel Changes In The White House
47:44 How One Conversation With Christie Shaped Trump’s Covid Response
54:53 When Christie Realized Trump Wasn’t For Him
57:39 Does Trump Actually Believe He Won in 2020?
1:00:30 Trump’s Primetime Address & His Election Denialism
1:03:03 Why Democrats Shouldn’t Focus On Trump’s in 2028
1:07:50 How To Discuss Trump’s Corruption & His Attack on Democracy
1:12:26 Christie’s Current 2026 Predictions: House & Senate & The Possibility of Impeachment
1:15:33 The Rise of The DSA: Mamdani, AOC & Who Bernie Sanders Is Actually Helping
1:20:11 How Trump Intends to Shape 2028 & The One Republican Who Push Back
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Bestselling author and business thinker Jim Collins sits down for a personal conversation about purpose, leadership, and how to build a meaningful life. At a time when many young people feel increasingly uncertain about their future and are searching for direction, Collins offers our audience something different; a framework for finding purpose beyond career success.
Inspired by his new book, What to Make of a Life: Cliffs, Fog, Fire and the Self-Knowledge Imperative, Collins details how to navigate life's defining events, positive and negative. He also shares the habits and strategies that have shaped him while providing guidance for anyone looking to build a life of meaning in an increasingly uncertain world.

00:00 Inspiration & How To Make A Social Science Book Personal
9:39 What To Make Of A Life
13:07 What Inspires Someone To Write
19:07 Intention & Becoming A 4 AM Person
25:08 Cliff Events & Pairs: Evaluating Reactions To Similar Circumstances
31:07 This Notion of Encoding
41:25 What Makes The Multiple Types Of Success
45:05 Fogs
49:14 The Bug Book
53:46 Fire & Aging
1:05:07 Staying In Frame
1:15:49 Choosing Responsibility
1:25:15 The One Thing Collins Learned Writing This Book
1:32:38 Finding Your BHAG

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