Women of Impact

In the second part of this enlightening conversation, Elle Macpherson discusses love, wellness, and overcoming life’s hardest moments with grace and determination. She opens up about her sobriety journey, redefining relationships, and why wellness is the foundation of empowerment.

Elle shares actionable tips for navigating fear, building resilience, and creating a life that aligns with your true essence. From candid reflections on past relationships to starting her wellness company, Elle inspires listeners to take control of their journey and embrace the beauty of transformation.

SHOWNOTES
[00:00] Lisa and Elle explore how relationships reflect self-love and inner well-being.
[07:01] The dolphin tattoo story: A moment of clarity and self-discovery.
[12:03] How Elle turned pain into purpose by channeling her energy into creating her lingerie business.
[20:17] Overcoming addiction: Elle’s powerful sobriety story and advice for breaking harmful patterns.
[28:26] Facing fear with clarity: How Elle approached her cancer diagnosis with research and inner trust.
[34:54] The wellness journey that led to founding WelleCo and transforming her health.
[40:37] Aging gracefully: How Elle reframed beauty and vitality as soul-deep qualities.
[50:02] The power of meditation and self-connection in creating a life of fulfillment.

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Elle Macpherson, one of the most iconic supermodels of all time, joins Lisa Bilyeu for a candid conversation about overcoming life’s toughest challenges. From battling alcoholism to navigating divorce and a cancer diagnosis, Elle shares the tools and mindset shifts that empowered her to reinvent herself and thrive in her 60s.

In this episode, Elle dives deep into how to let go of external validation, the power of trusting your intuition, and her journey from self-doubt to self-love. She reflects on career-defining moments, personal growth through hardships, and how the lessons she’s learned can inspire women to embrace their strength at any stage of life.

SHOWNOTES
[00:00] Lisa introduces Elle’s inspiring story of reinvention and resilience.
[02:14] Elle explains the importance of focusing on what you love and aligning with your heart.
[03:38] How Elle learned to handle criticism early in her modeling career and use it as fuel for growth.
[07:51] The power of self-reflection: Learning from mistakes without judgment.
[09:26] Understanding the Four A’s (Approval, Agreement, Acceptance, Allegiance) and how they guide decisions.
[12:32] Why listening to your intuition is like building a trusted friendship.
[16:54] Elle’s life-changing decision to trust her gut and embrace unexpected opportunities.
[22:25] Relationships as mirrors: What Elle discovered about self-love through her marriages.

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You know that feeling when you pour all your love and energy into someone… only to find yourself depleted, second-guessing, and begging for scraps? Homie, this is your episode. If you’re tired of being told you’re “too much,” exhausted by toxic loyalty, or want to become impossible to manipulate…hit play.
In this conversation, I sit down with Margarita Nazarenko, author of “Unbothered,” advocate for radical self-worth, and the internet’s toughest love coach, for the raw, sometimes uncomfortable truth about why women outsource their value, fall for emotional breadcrumbers, and confuse drama with connection.
Not only does Margarita break down the cycle of anxious and avoidant attachment (yes, she’ll tell you exactly which one you are), but she gives you real scripts, tactical moves, and mindset shifts to finally put your power back in your own hands. No empty affirmations, just the blueprint for creating unbreakable confidence and peaceful, drama-free relationships.
Here’s exactly what we dive into:
The “unbothered” mindset: How to validate yourself without toxic independence
Scripts and pause tactics for breaking codependent patterns (text and real life!)
How to trust “boring” love after chaos addiction (and why calm is actually chemistry)
Negotiating power dynamics, resentment, and real partnership, without losing yourself

Chapters
Anxious vs. Avoidant Attachment: Jessica and Amanda Explained
“Urgency Is Not Truth”: The Power of Pausing Before Reacting
Why Anxious Attachment Attracts Manipulators (and Repels Healthy Men)
The Three Ms: Mothering, Martyring & Managing in Relationships
The Mental Load Dilemma: Partnership, Resentment, and Fair Trade-Offs
Dopamine, Breadcrumbs & Phone Addiction: Why You Crave Their Attention
“Look for Boring”: Detoxing from Adrenaline Addiction
Care, Castration, and Masculinity: The Cost of Over-Functioning
Guilt, Negative Voices, and the Art of Using Discomfort for Growth
Reality Check: Handling Triggers, Rumination, and the Illusion of Closure
From Anxious Chasing to Self-Respect: Stories That Change Everything
Men, Masculinity, and the “Red Pill” Question

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Have you ever found yourself wrapped up in a relationship, only to wonder later if you were being manipulated?

Well, today we're diving deep into the world of seduction, manipulation, and the often overlooked power dynamics at play with the help of CIA veteran Andrew Bustamante, who knows all too well how these tactics are used both in espionage and everyday life.

In this eye-opening episode of Women of Impact, we’re pulling back the curtain on how the human brain can be influenced by hormones and emotional connections to uncover how to spot those red flags before you get too entangled.

Andrew is here to break down the three-step process of human sexuality, explain how predators like narcissists find their targets, and give us the tools to protect ourselves from falling into manipulative traps.

Trust me homie, with Andrew’s insights, you’ll gain a better understanding of the power dynamics at play and how to navigate them with confidence and clarity!!

In this episode, we go DEEP into:
- How YOU can identify and outsmart manipulators before they even have a chance to play their games
- The surprising role hormones play in attraction and why understanding them can give you a serious edge in relationships
- How to build authentic connections without falling prey to emotional persuasion
- The real difference between seduction and genuine romantic interest
- And soooo much more!!

By the end of this episode, you’ll have a toolkit to recognize and deflect manipulation, understand the role of hormones in emotional and sexual engagement, and maintain control in your relationships.

So guys, no more second-guessing or blaming yourselves when things feel off. This episode will arm you with the knowledge to stand strong against manipulation and build relationships that genuinely respect your worth and boundaries!!

So let’s dive right in, guys!! I’m Lisa Bilyeu and welcome to Women of Impact.

SHOWNOTES
Ambitious folks just want to feel seen.
Life cycle: belonging, connecting, leading, creating.
Assumptions help the brain save energy, easily.
Vasopressin boosts belonging, fuels frequent hookups.
Ravens need more time with female targets.
Sex boosts brain power differently for everyone.
Exploited admin vulnerabilities for secrets over decades.
Czechoslovakian spies faked marriage, stole U.S. secrets.
Think logically, not emotionally, to avoid mistakes.

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Have you ever found yourself wrapped up in a relationship, only to wonder later if you were being manipulated?

Well, today we're diving deep into the world of seduction, manipulation, and the often overlooked power dynamics at play with the help of CIA veteran Andrew Bustamante, who knows all too well how these tactics are used both in espionage and everyday life.

In this eye-opening episode of Women of Impact, we’re pulling back the curtain on how the human brain can be influenced by hormones and emotional connections to uncover how to spot those red flags before you get too entangled.

Andrew is here to break down the three-step process of human sexuality, explain how predators like narcissists find their targets, and give us the tools to protect ourselves from falling into manipulative traps.

Trust me homie, with Andrew’s insights, you’ll gain a better understanding of the power dynamics at play and how to navigate them with confidence and clarity!!

In this episode, we go DEEP into:
- How YOU can identify and outsmart manipulators before they even have a chance to play their games
- The surprising role hormones play in attraction and why understanding them can give you a serious edge in relationships
- How to build authentic connections without falling prey to emotional persuasion
- The real difference between seduction and genuine romantic interest
- And soooo much more!!

By the end of this episode, you’ll have a toolkit to recognize and deflect manipulation, understand the role of hormones in emotional and sexual engagement, and maintain control in your relationships.

So guys, no more second-guessing or blaming yourselves when things feel off. This episode will arm you with the knowledge to stand strong against manipulation and build relationships that genuinely respect your worth and boundaries!!

So let’s dive right in, guys!! I’m Lisa Bilyeu and welcome to Women of Impact.

SHOWNOTES
00:00 Dopamine and noradrenaline make things exciting.
08:52 Taylor Swift shirt makes me seem harmless.
15:51 Can't keep up with Taylor Swift convo.
18:59 She hits the gym hard daily, for sure!
25:50 Attraction and connection often lead to affairs.
27:53 Energy level ups with more intense activity.
33:53 Seduction in spy work: Building trust, not sex.
37:59 Women worry about being manipulated or seduced.

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