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Career & Leadership Real Talk

Pamela Langan & Jacqui Jagger
Career & Leadership Real Talk
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  • Career & Leadership Real Talk

    Ep 170 - How to Get Out of the Weeds and Think Strategically

    17/08/2026 | 31 mins.
    In this episode, we're tackling a topic we know lands hard for so many of you: how to be strategic when your operational workload keeps dragging you back into the weeds. It's one we've covered from different angles before, but it kept coming up in client conversations, so we thought it was time to revisit it properly.
    Rather than focusing on time management tips you've probably already tried, we dig into why this is so often about habits and identity rather than a lack of hours in the day. We share five reasons this keeps happening, then three practical steps you can start using straight away to create genuine thinking space.
    Key points from this episode
    Why "just block out time in your diary" so rarely works, and what's really going on underneath
    The five hidden drivers keeping you stuck in the weeds, from the escalation loop to the relentless optimism trap
    Why being the person with all the answers might be quietly holding your career back
    A simple question to ask before you jump in and solve someone else's problem for them
    The three Ds framework for working out what you can stop being involved in

    00:00 Introduction and why this topic keeps coming back
    06:00 It's not just a practical problem, it's about habits and identity
    07:00 Driver one: the escalation loop
    12:00 Driver two: the addiction to being needed
    14:00 Driver three: the expertise trap
    17:00 Driver four: diary space isn't head space
    19:00 Driver five: the relentless optimism trap
    22:00 Acknowledging your part in it
    23:00 What to do: catch yourself before you jump in
    26:00 What to do: find the pattern, not the instance
    28:00 What to do: the three Ds - ditch, delegate, design differently
    30:00 Final thoughts and where to find the playlist

    Useful Links
    Strategic Thinking Episodes Playlist
    Connect with Pam on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pamelalangan/
    Connect with Jacqui on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacqui-jagger/
    Follow the Catalyst Careers LinkedIn page for career tips and advice
    Interested in working with us?
    Get in touch about career or leadership development, outplacement workshops or recruitment support via the Catalyst Careers website
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    Ep 169 - Preparing for Promotion Conversations

    03/08/2026 | 32 mins.
    You're doing brilliant work, you know you could probably do your boss's job, and you're still waiting for someone to notice. Sound familiar? In this episode, we unpack why performing well and waiting for the tap on the shoulder rarely gets you promoted, and what to do instead.
    We talk through the very British discomfort with "shouting about yourself," why recognition for your current role doesn't automatically translate into being seen as ready for the next one, and how to have promotion conversations that feel like advocacy rather than an ultimatum. We share a real client example of how raising the conversation months in advance completely changed the outcome, plus practical advice on timing, who to actually speak to, and how to reframe a knockback into a clear, strategic next move.
    Key points from this episode
    Why being a "reliable pair of hands" can quietly work against your chances of promotion
    The very British instinct that's stopping you asking for what you want
    Why your manager praising your work doesn't mean they see you at the next level
    A real client story of how starting the conversation early changed everything
    Who you should actually be having this conversation with (hint: it's not always who you think)

    Timestamps
    00:00 Introduction and why this topic matters
    01:00 Why performing well isn't a promotion strategy
    06:00 The British discomfort with self-promotion
    09:00 Why being noticed doesn't mean being seen as ready
    12:00 A client's story: raising the conversation months ahead
    17:00 Why timing beats waiting for the annual appraisal
    19:00 Choosing who to have the conversation with
    21:00 Reminding people of your impact
    29:00 Turning a "no" into a clear next move
    Useful Links
    Connect with Pam on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pamelalangan/
    Connect with Jacqui on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacqui-jagger/
    Follow the Catalyst Careers LinkedIn page for career tips and advice
    Interested in working with us?
    Get in touch about career or leadership development, outplacement workshops or recruitment support via the Catalyst Careers website
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    Ep 168 - DISC Personality Types: Building Confidence When Working with Different Styles

    20/07/2026 | 42 mins.
    Ever felt like a colleague or your boss was speaking a completely different language, even though you're both talking about the same thing? This week we're joined by Gayle Tong, confidence coach and DISC practitioner, to unpack why working with different personality types can quietly chip away at your confidence at work, and what to actually do about it.
    We get into what DISC really measures (it's not personality, whatever the name suggests), why the value isn't in the report itself but in the conversation that follows it, and how understanding your own style, and other people's, can turn "why don't they just get it?" into genuinely better working relationships.
    Key points from this episode
    Why psychometric tools like DISC measure behaviour, not personality, and why that distinction matters more than you'd think
    The DISC styles explained in plain English, plus what each one looks like on a good day versus a bad one
    Why some of the most common workplace friction comes down to two particular styles clashing, and what to do about it
    The real cost of being told to "just be more confident" without specifics
    A simple team exercise that surfaces things colleagues have never known about each other, even after years of working together

    00:00 Introduction: welcoming guest Gayle Tong
    01:00 Gayle's background in confidence coaching and DISC
    02:00 Why working with different personality types affects confidence
    03:00 How this shows up with Gayle's coaching clients
    04:00 DISC explained: behaviour, not personality
    06:00 The four DISC styles: D, I, S and C
    09:00 Why report feedback works best through discussion
    10:00 What happens when you don't recognise yourself in your profile
    13:00 Starting with self-awareness before anything else
    14:00 The strengths and challenges of each style, good day versus bad day
    18:00 Which styles clash, and which connect naturally
    21:00 A real example: adapting communication style by email
    26:00 Team exercise: the 'My DISC Profile' activity
    33:00 When you feel pressure to be more like a 'D' style
    35:00 Having the honest conversation about how you work best
    37:00 Why "just be more confident" isn't useful feedback from managers
    40:00 How to find and work with Gayle
    Useful Links
    Connect with Pam on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pamelalangan/
    Connect with Jacqui on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacqui-jagger/
    Connect with Gayle
    Website: https://www.enrichmentcoaching.co.uk/
    LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/gayletong
    Interested in working with us?
    Get in touch about career or leadership development, outplacement workshops or recruitment support via the Catalyst Careers website
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    Ep 167 - Influencing Without Authority

    06/07/2026 | 25 mins.
    Ever felt unheard when trying to get buy-in from someone who doesn't report to you, or from a boss who just isn't responding to your usual approach? In this episode, we unpack influencing without authority: why it's such a common challenge in matrix organisations and cross-functional roles, and what actually works when you can't simply pull rank to get people on board.
    We explore the difference between personal power and position power, why doubling down on what isn't working rarely gets you anywhere, and share practical, actionable ways to build the kind of influence that lasts.
    Key points from this episode
    Why influencing without authority comes up so often, and why nobody ever really teaches us how to do it
    The crucial difference between personal power and position power, and what happens when you've only built one of the two
    How to spot the early signs that your usual approach isn't landing, and what to do instead
    Practical tools for building buy-in: getting curious, aligning with other people's priorities, and pre-socialising your ideas
    Why listening might be the single most underused skill when it comes to getting people on side

    00:00 Introduction: why influencing without authority matters
    03:00 What makes influencing feel so hard
    06:00 Personal power versus position power
    13:00 A simple first step: noticing frustration and getting curious
    16:00 Aligning your priorities with theirs
    18:00 Pre-socialising ideas and mapping the informal power structure
    21:00 Listening: the most underused leadership skill
    23:00 Final thoughts and how to get support

    Useful Links
    Connect with Pam on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pamelalangan/
    Connect with Jacqui on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacqui-jagger/
    Interested in working with us?
    Get in touch about career or leadership development, outplacement workshops or recruitment support via the Catalyst Careers website
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    Ep 166 - Career Planning: Why the Plan in Your Head Isn't Working

    22/06/2026 | 23 mins.
    Career planning is one of those things most of us know we should do and keep putting off. In this episode, we explore why it feels so much harder than it should be, and why the version most people have in their heads doesn't actually count as a plan. Pam shares the simple, one-page approach she uses with her clients that takes an hour (or 10 minutes a day across a week) and turns vague ambition into something you can actually act on.
    If you've ever thought "I'll do that when things settle down" or "I wouldn't even know what to put in a career plan," this one's for you.
    Access Pam's Career Plan on a Page resource to work through it after listening
    Key points from this episode
    Why keeping your career plan in your head is costing you opportunities, even if you think you've got it figured out
    The biggest misconception that stops ambitious people from starting: it doesn't have to be a big formal exercise
    Why good career planning starts with looking back, not forward, and what that unlocks
    How a career plan becomes a compass when you're in a role you're not loving or you're wondering "is this it?"
    What Pam's Career Plan on a Page actually contains, and how to use it to keep moving forward

    00:00 Introduction and why career planning keeps getting put off
    01:00 The problem with keeping your plan in your head
    03:00 What stops ambitious people from committing it to paper
    05:00 The clarity gap: not knowing what to even put in a plan
    06:30 Where to start: reflection before direction
    08:00 Looking back to move forward, and what the career mapping exercise reveals
    11:00 Using your plan as a compass when things feel hard
    12:00 When a career plan leads somewhere unexpected: client stories
    14:00 Pam walks through the Career Plan on a Page process
    19:00 What the completed plan looks like and how to keep it live
    21:00 Final thoughts: treating it as an experiment, not a commitment

    Useful Links
    Connect with Pam on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pamelalangan/
    Connect with Jacqui on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacqui-jagger/
    Interested in working with us?
    Get in touch about career or leadership development, outplacement workshops or recruitment support via the Catalyst Careers website
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About Career & Leadership Real Talk
Welcome to Career & Leadership Real Talk; a weekly podcast full of guidance and advice for ambitious managers who are ready to take ownership of their career. It’s hosted by Pamela Langan, a job search coach and c.v. writing expert, and Jacqui Jagger, a mindset and leadership coach. We’re here for you if you want to have more impact, land a new job or get the promotion you know you deserve. There’s no high level, intellectual theory here – it’s a fluff-free zone We’ll be talking about how to stand out in your job search, how to hit the ground running in a new role and how to cope when things aren’t going *quite* the way you want at work In our career clinic section we’ll answer real questions from listeners and our clients, and we’ll also share our take on books on the topics of careers, leadership, & management so you can decide which are worth your time You can connect with us on LinkedIn – feel free to DM us with any questions you’d like us to answer on the show! https://www.linkedin.com/in/pamelalangancoaching/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacqui-jagger/
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