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Career & Leadership Real Talk

Pamela Langan & Jacqui Jagger
Career & Leadership Real Talk
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  • Career & Leadership Real Talk

    Ep 166 - Career Planning: Why the Plan in Your Head Isn't Working

    22/06/2026 | 23 mins.
    Career planning is one of those things most of us know we should do and keep putting off. In this episode, we explore why it feels so much harder than it should be, and why the version most people have in their heads doesn't actually count as a plan. Pam shares the simple, one-page approach she uses with her clients that takes an hour (or 10 minutes a day across a week) and turns vague ambition into something you can actually act on.
    If you've ever thought "I'll do that when things settle down" or "I wouldn't even know what to put in a career plan," this one's for you.
    Access Pam's Career Plan on a Page resource to work through it after listening
    Key points from this episode
    Why keeping your career plan in your head is costing you opportunities, even if you think you've got it figured out
    The biggest misconception that stops ambitious people from starting: it doesn't have to be a big formal exercise
    Why good career planning starts with looking back, not forward, and what that unlocks
    How a career plan becomes a compass when you're in a role you're not loving or you're wondering "is this it?"
    What Pam's Career Plan on a Page actually contains, and how to use it to keep moving forward

    00:00 Introduction and why career planning keeps getting put off
    01:00 The problem with keeping your plan in your head
    03:00 What stops ambitious people from committing it to paper
    05:00 The clarity gap: not knowing what to even put in a plan
    06:30 Where to start: reflection before direction
    08:00 Looking back to move forward, and what the career mapping exercise reveals
    11:00 Using your plan as a compass when things feel hard
    12:00 When a career plan leads somewhere unexpected: client stories
    14:00 Pam walks through the Career Plan on a Page process
    19:00 What the completed plan looks like and how to keep it live
    21:00 Final thoughts: treating it as an experiment, not a commitment

    Useful Links
    Connect with Pam on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pamelalangan/
    Connect with Jacqui on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacqui-jagger/
    Interested in working with us?
    Get in touch about career or leadership development, outplacement workshops or recruitment support via the Catalyst Careers website
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    Ep 165 - Underselling Yourself Communication Habits That Can Stall Your Career

    08/06/2026 | 28 mins.
    In this episode, we explore a pattern Jacqui sees regularly in her coaching practice — capable, high-performing professionals who are inadvertently stalling their own careers by the way they talk about their work. Using a real client story (shared anonymously), we unpack what underselling looks like in practice, why it happens, and what you can do differently.
    If you've ever described something you achieved and immediately wondered why it didn't land the way you hoped, this one's for you.
    Key points from this episode
    Why competence alone won't get you to director level — and what needs to change in how you communicate your contribution
    The visibility paradox: how the people doing the most impressive work are often the least visible
    How deep-seated discomfort with self-promotion shows up in the language you use every day
    The difference between describing what happened and articulating what you made happen
    A simple practical exercise to reframe how you talk about your work, and where to use it

    00:00 Introduction and the client story behind this episode
    01:00 The pattern: capable professionals who let their contribution go unnoticed
    05:00 The visibility paradox and why senior leaders need to be seen, not just effective
    10:00 Why "selling yourself" creates resistance — and a more useful way to think about it
    13:00 The cost of invisibility: a real example from a Deloitte partnership decision
    19:00 Comfort zones, default behaviours, and what's really driving the pattern
    21:00 Tara Mohr's Playing Big and the language habits that keep people small
    23:00 Active versus passive framing — and why it matters beyond the interview room
    25:00 The practical exercise: write two versions and find the opportunity to use one
    Useful Links
    Connect with Pam on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pamelalangan/
    Connect with Jacqui on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacqui-jagger/
    Follow the Catalyst Careers LinkedIn page for career tips and advice
    Interested in working with us?
    Get in touch about career or leadership development, outplacement workshops or recruitment support via the Catalyst Careers website
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    Ep 164 - Imposter Syndrome: Why It Gets Worse as You Get More Senior

    26/05/2026 | 28 mins.
    If you expected imposter syndrome to ease off as your career progressed, you're not alone, and you're probably wondering why it's doing the opposite. In this episode, we dig into why imposter syndrome so often intensifies at senior level, and what's actually going on in your brain when it does.
    We share practical strategies for working with imposter syndrome rather than trying to outrun it, because working harder and delivering more isn't the answer, and most people find that out the hard way.
    Key points from this episode
    Why becoming more senior makes imposter syndrome worse, not better and the brain science behind it
    The identity gap: why your internal reality struggles to keep pace with your external success
    How self-judgment fuels imposter syndrome and what to do instead
    Why positive feedback doesn't land and a simple technique to change that
    How to borrow belief from the people who already have it in you

    00:00 Introduction and Topic Overview
    00:26 Why Imposter Syndrome Intensifies With Seniority
    02:29 The Trap of Trying to Outwork It
    05:00 Your Brain, Evidence and the Confidence Gap
    08:00 Navigating Uncertainty: The Board Meeting Example
    11:00 The Identity Gap Explained
    13:30 The Self-Judgment Cycle
    16:30 What Actually Helps: Reducing Self-Judgment
    21:00 How to Internalise Positive Feedback
    24:30 Borrowing Belief From Others
    26:30 Final Thoughts and Call to Action

    Useful Links
    Connect with Pam on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pamelalangan/
    Connect with Jacqui on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacqui-jagger/
    Interested in working with us?
    Get in touch about career or leadership development, outplacement workshops or recruitment support via the Catalyst Careers website
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    Ep 163 - Bouncing Back From Negative Feedback

    11/05/2026 | 28 mins.
    Receiving negative feedback is something every leader faces — but nobody really teaches you how to handle it well. In this episode, we talk about why your reaction to negative feedback matters more than you might think, and how developing the skill of receiving it well can genuinely change the trajectory of your career.
    We share real examples, including a story from Pam's own career where one piece of feedback held her back from presenting confidently for years — and what she wishes she'd done differently in that moment.
    Key points from this episode
    Why how you respond to negative feedback creates either a vicious or virtuous cycle in your career
    The mindset shift that separates feedback from your sense of identity
    Why asking more questions after difficult feedback is more powerful than going away to stew on it
    Longer-term strategies to make feedback easier to receive — and less likely to sting
    How regularly asking for feedback desensitises you and builds trust with the people around you

    00:00 Introduction and Topic Overview
    00:26 Why Negative Feedback Hits So Hard
    02:59 The Vicious and Virtuous Cycle
    05:37 Separating Feedback from Identity
    09:00 Unpacking a Real Listener Example
    13:00 What to Do in the Moment
    16:37 Creating Distance and Regulating Your Emotions
    18:00 Pam's Personal Story: The Presentation That Set Her Back
    23:00 Longer-Term Strategies: Feedforward and Seeking Input
    25:30 Making Feedback a Regular Habit
    26:37 Closing the Loop: Acknowledging What You've Done With Feedback
    28:00 Close and Call to Action

    Useful Links
    Connect with Pam on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pamelalangan/
    Connect with Jacqui on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacqui-jagger/
    Follow the Catalyst Careers LinkedIn page for career tips and advice
    Interested in working with us?
    Get in touch about career or leadership development, outplacement workshops or recruitment support via the Catalyst Careers website
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    Ep 162 - Why You Can't Say No at Work (And What It's Costing You)

    20/04/2026 | 25 mins.
    If you've ever found yourself completely overwhelmed, running on empty and wondering how you got here, this episode is for you. We're exploring why so many leaders struggle to say no. Not because they're weak or disorganised, but because saying yes is what got them where they are. Understanding how this pattern forms is the first step to changing it.
    We get honest about what this really looks and feels like from the inside, including the gap between how capable you appear to everyone else and how stretched you actually feel. If any of this sounds familiar, you're not alone, and there are things you can do.

    Key points from this episode
    Why saying yes early in your career works against you later — and how it stops being a strategy and becomes your identity
    The "invisible yes" — work that lands on your plate that you never actually agreed to
    What it really costs you to keep saying yes to everything, including your career progression
    Why pushing back feels so hard when you've always been the reliable one
    First steps to take if you recognise yourself in this episode

    Timestamps
    00:00 Introduction and Episode Overview
    00:47 Why Saying Yes Feels Good Early in Your Career
    03:00 When Yes Stops Being a Strategy and Becomes Your Identity
    06:00 What This Really Looks Like Day to Day
    09:00 High Achievers Don't Give Themselves Permission to Struggle
    11:00 The Cost of Always Finding a Way Through
    14:00 The Invisible Yes — and Why It Matters
    16:00 Practical First Steps: Pause, Reflect and Reassess
    19:30 Why Asking for Help Is Part of the Solution
    22:30 When It's Time to Consider Coaching
    23:30 Link to Episode 82 and Close
    Useful Links
    Episode 82
    Connect with Pam on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pamelalangan/
    Connect with Jacqui on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacqui-jagger/
    Follow the Catalyst Careers LinkedIn page for career tips and advice
    Interested in working with us?
    Get in touch about career or leadership development, outplacement workshops or recruitment support via the Catalyst Careers website
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About Career & Leadership Real Talk
Welcome to Career & Leadership Real Talk; a weekly podcast full of guidance and advice for ambitious managers who are ready to take ownership of their career. It’s hosted by Pamela Langan, a job search coach and c.v. writing expert, and Jacqui Jagger, a mindset and leadership coach. We’re here for you if you want to have more impact, land a new job or get the promotion you know you deserve. There’s no high level, intellectual theory here – it’s a fluff-free zone We’ll be talking about how to stand out in your job search, how to hit the ground running in a new role and how to cope when things aren’t going *quite* the way you want at work In our career clinic section we’ll answer real questions from listeners and our clients, and we’ll also share our take on books on the topics of careers, leadership, & management so you can decide which are worth your time You can connect with us on LinkedIn – feel free to DM us with any questions you’d like us to answer on the show! https://www.linkedin.com/in/pamelalangancoaching/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacqui-jagger/
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