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    The harsh reality of advertising's shift to 'churn and burn'

    21/07/2026 | 37 mins.
    New data from CreativeX reveals the alarming extent of 'churn and burn' short-termism among advertisers, based on a study of 633,000 ads over two years. Content volume is way up, but media budgets aren't. So what's going on? Anastasia Leng, CEO of CreativeX, joins WARC's David Tiltman to break down the data, examine the most concerning trends, and discuss how brands can turn the ship around. 

    Guests:

    Anastasia Leng, CEO, CreativeX

    Chapters:

    00:00 – Fragmentation of creativity and the ‘more with less’ challenge

    04:12 – From pre-testing to creative auditing at scale

    05:18 – Why media and creative must come back together

    06:54 – Explaining ‘fewer, bigger, longer, better’

    09:19 – From scarcity to abundance: when ‘more content’ goes wrong

    10:14 – Inside the study: 633k ads, $2bn spend, 143 Fortune 500 brands

    12:52 – Content production up 29% in two years

    14:01 – Media spend per ad down 15%: weaker support for each asset

    15:34 – Short runs: 32 days for direct response ads, 40 days for brand ads

    17:28 – Algorithms as creative directors and a crisis of confidence

    19:49 – 93% of ads under $10k; 70% under $1k in spend

    21:32 – Low-budget ads score 20% lower on creative quality

    24:48 – Sub-$10k ads absorbing 30% of a $2bn media budget

    32:05 – Three fixes: big ideas, media thresholds, better learning loops

    35:29 – ‘Big swings’: $100k+ ads run 89 days but get only 18% of spend


    For 40 years, WARC has been providing the marketing industry with rigorous, unbiased evidence and expert effectiveness guidance. The WARC Podcast publishes a new episode every Tuesday and Thursday.
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    Strategy standouts from Cannes Lions

    16/07/2026 | 29 mins.
    Creative Strategy Lions jury president Sarah Lemarié and juror Dan Hill share powerful advice on how to level up strategic thinking, their stand out campaigns from Cannes Lions, why they look for 'strategic firsts' in the jury room, and a warning on using AI in awards entries. Hosted by Effie Insight's John Bizzell.

    Guests:

    Sarah Lemarié, Chief Strategy Officer, Publicis France

    Dan Hill, Global Chief Strategy Officer, Wieden+Kennedy

    Chapters:

    00:00 – Intro: Cannes Lions Creative Strategy Winners 2026

    01:46 – Meet the Jury: Sarah Lemarié & Dan Hill on Judging Creative Strategy Lions

    03:43 – Creating a Benchmark: Why Creative Strategy Lions Build a “Body of Work”

    07:11 – Defining ‘What Good Looks Like’ in Creative Strategy at Cannes Lions

    10:21 – Human Ingenuity & Empathy in a World of AI: What the Winners Proved

    11:38 – Grand Prix Breakdown: Heineken’s “The Pub That Refused to Die” in Ireland

    13:18 – Community Ownership & Brand Purpose: How Heineken Helped Save Local Pubs

    16:09 – Gold Winner Spotlight: Faroe Islands Space Program and Tidal Energy Reframing

    17:48 – “Simple but Clever” Strategy: Making Sustainable Tech Feel Playful & B2B-Friendly

    20:12 – AI and Creative Strategy: Dove Real Reviews, Claude and LLM‑Ready Ideas

    23:37 – Classic vs New Media: How Dove and Claude Blend Old CPG and New Tech

    24:38 – How to Win a Creative Strategy Lion: Entry Writing, Storytelling & Results

    26:40 – The Fosbury Flop of Strategy: Novelty, Firsts and Playful Creativity at Cannes


    For 40 years, WARC has been providing the marketing industry with rigorous, unbiased evidence and expert effectiveness guidance. The WARC Podcast publishes a new episode every Tuesday and Thursday.
    Subscribe to The WARC Podcast here: https://www.warc.com/en/warc-podcasts
    Sign up to daily WARC News for free: https://www.warc.com/en/latest
    Book a demo: https://www.warc.com/en/subscribe
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    Mark Ritson versus marketing's 'culture of bullsh*t'

    14/07/2026 | 37 mins.
    Mark Ritson is back to talk all things marketing skills, back-to-basics brand fundamentals, the impact of AI on the marketing workforce and why he's tired of marketing's 'culture of bullsh*t'. Hosted by WARC's David Tiltman.

    Guest:

    Mark Ritson, Founder, miniMBA

    Chapters:

    00:00 – Intro: Mark Ritson joins The WARC Podcast

    02:33 – Ritson & Byron Sharp: surprising areas of agreement

    07:40 – The Multiplier Playbook and the effectiveness “say–do” gap

    09:09 – Ipsos x Ritson test: two‑thirds of marketers fail basics

    11:28 – Marketing’s skillset problem

    15:20 – Fewer, bigger, longer: brand building vs short‑termism

    18:58 – Why “idiot competitors” help smart brands win in recessions

    19:41 – CreativeX data: 93% of big‑brand digital ads spend under $10k

    22:38 – When performance thinking invades long‑term brand building

    23:08 – AI and synthetic data: what will really change in marketing

    24:56 – AI‑built marketing plans and a 60–65% cut in jobs

    28:45 – Creator marketing, TikTok and the distinctiveness challenge

    32:31 – The “uncivil war” in effectiveness and why debate matters


    For 40 years, WARC has been providing the marketing industry with rigorous, unbiased evidence and expert effectiveness guidance. The WARC Podcast publishes a new episode every Tuesday and Thursday.
    Subscribe to The WARC Podcast here: https://www.warc.com/en/warc-podcasts
    Sign up to daily WARC News for free: https://www.warc.com/en/latest
    Book a demo: https://www.warc.com/en/subscribe
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    Inside the Cannes Lions Creative Effectiveness jury

    09/07/2026 | 29 mins.
    Cannes Lions jury president Bertille Toledano and juror Jane Wakely share tips for aspiring winners of the Creative Effectiveness Lions, including lessons from this year's Grand Prix and Gold winners, how to present data, outline cultural context & and demonstrate brand growth with rigorous evidence.

    Guests:

    Bertille Toledano, CEO of BETC and Havas Creative Middle East, President of Havas Creative Network

    Jane Wakely, EVP, Chief Consumer & Marketing Officer, PepsiCo; Chief Growth Officer, International Foods

    Chapters:

    00:00 – Intro: Welcome to The WARC Podcast

    01:32 – Meet the Jury: Bertille Toledano & Jane Wakely

    02:47 – Inside the Jury Room: Setting a Vision for Creative Effectiveness

    04:25 – Diversity, Debate & Data: How the Jury Worked Together

    06:51 – Measuring Impact: Retention, Acquisition & Growth Metrics

    08:25 – Case Study: ‘My Japan Railway’ and Design Meets Effectiveness

    10:26 – Is Creative Effectiveness Getting Stronger?

    13:15 – Grand Prix Decision: Why AXA’s ‘Three Words’ Won

    15:51 – Reframing Low-Interest Categories with Human-Centric Ideas

    18:10 – Pedigree in Brazil: Mutt Adoption, Culture and Category Growth

    22:17 – Another Standout Case: IKEA’s ‘Hidden Tags’

    25:25 – How to Write a Winning Effectiveness Paper: Data & Sources

    28:36 – Cultural Context for Global Juries: Don’t Assume Understanding

    29:25 – Category Growth vs Share Growth: What Really Matters


    For 40 years, WARC has been providing the marketing industry with rigorous, unbiased evidence and expert effectiveness guidance. The WARC Podcast publishes a new episode every Tuesday and Thursday.
    Subscribe to The WARC Podcast here: https://www.warc.com/en/warc-podcasts
    Sign up to daily WARC News for free: https://www.warc.com/en/latest
    Book a demo: https://www.warc.com/en/subscribe
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    How Fitflop broke through the performance plateau

    07/07/2026 | 47 mins.
    How do you break out of a performance plateau without extra budget? Footwear brand FitFlop is walking the talk (in FitFlops, of course). Fitflop's Brittany Ellam and Ash Singh from Jellyfish join WARC's David Tiltman to discuss how the brand tapped into thinking from The Multiplier Effect, and the impressive results it achieved by embracing a better approach to investing in brand and performance marketing.

    Guests:

    Brittany Ellam, Interim Global Head of Acquisition & Media, FitFlop

    Ashwin Singh, Media Strategy Director, Jellyfish

    Chapters:

    00:00 – Intro: Why FitFlop is a ‘multiplier effect’ case study

    02:57 – FitFlop’s story: from comfort innovation to global brand

    04:46 – Hitting the performance plateau: shrinking baselines, falling CVR

    08:00 – Jellyfish's diagnosis: mental availability, not demand, is the problem

    12:59 – Funding brand without extra budget: cutting low-intent traffic

    17:46 – The “dynamic replenishment loop” explained

    22:17 – Build–Nudge–Connect: rethinking creative and social proof

    29:35 – Results: +68% ROAS, +30% revenue and rising conversion rates

    36:24 – Internal buy-in, learnings and advice for marketers


    For 40 years, WARC has been providing the marketing industry with rigorous, unbiased evidence and expert effectiveness guidance. The WARC Podcast publishes a new episode every Tuesday and Thursday.
    Subscribe to The WARC Podcast here: https://www.warc.com/en/warc-podcasts
    Sign up to daily WARC News for free: https://www.warc.com/en/latest
    Book a demo: https://www.warc.com/en/subscribe
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