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Collaborative Connections Podcast | Conversations on Cancer Care for Oncology Massage Therapists & Estheticians

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Collaborative Connections Podcast | Conversations on Cancer Care for Oncology Massage Therapists & Estheticians
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  • Ep. 19 - Advancing Oncology Massage and Palliative Care in Italy with Daniela Panzeri
    Discover how oncology massage and palliative care are transforming patient well-being in Italy—and why these healing therapies may change lives worldwide. In this inspiring episode of Collaborative Connections, host Ericka Clinton sits down with Daniela Panzeri, Italy’s sole regional champion for the Society for Oncology Massage, to explore her groundbreaking work integrating massage therapy into hospice and palliative care settings.Daniela shares her journey from the Netherlands to Italy, detailing her unique role as the only massage therapist across three hospices, and reveals how compassionate touch can bring profound comfort to patients facing cancer, dementia, and chronic illness. You’ll learn about the collaborative power of combining oncology massage with music therapy, how Daniela is bridging the gap between healthcare professions, and her mission to educate both practitioners and the public—including writing a powerful new book that captures moving patient stories.If you’re passionate about holistic cancer care, integrative therapies, or seeking inspiration from real-world innovators making a difference, this episode is packed with insights, encouragement, and hope for the future of supportive care. Tune in to find out how one woman’s dedication is shaping a new standard of care in Italy and beyond!Topics Discussed in this Episode:Expanding oncology massage in ItalyIntegrative care for palliative patientsCollaboration with oncology aesthetics professionalsSharing patient stories through literatureEducation and networking in oncology massageClick here to view extended shownotesTo learn more about the Society for Oncology Massage (S4OM) visit http://www.s4om.orgFollow S4OM on your favorite social media platforms!Facebook: Society for Oncology Massage (S4OM) | Auburn ME (facebook.com)Instagram: Society for Oncology Massage (@s4om_org) • Instagram photos and videosTwitter: S4OM_Org (@s4om_org) / TwitterLinkedIn: Society for Oncology Massage | LinkedIn
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  • Ep. 18 – Innovative Oncology Massage Research with Jill Cole, MA, LMT, BCTMB
    In this episode of ‘Collaborative Connections,’ hosted by Ericka Clinton and sponsored by the Society for Oncology Massage and the Society for Oncology Esthetics, we feature Jill Cole, a licensed massage therapist and PhD candidate at the University of Kentucky. Jill shares her journey of becoming a PhD candidate in Rehabilitation and Health Science, focusing on her research in oncology massage, particularly a feasibility study she is conducting at the UK Healthcare Integrative Medicine and Health. She explains the crossover randomized control trial of massage therapy during cancer treatment and discusses the importance and challenges of touch therapy research. Throughout the conversation, Jill emphasizes the need for more biological and large-scale studies in the field and how empirical evidence can support the growth of the massage therapy profession. She highlights the collaborative nature of research and the critical role of massage therapists in advancing the profession through evidence-based practices. Topics discussed: Innovative oncology massage research Understanding the feasibility study framework Effects of massage on pain and anxiety Benefits of interdisciplinary PhD programs Importance of touch therapy research Research and growth in massage therapy Click here to read the extended shownotesTo learn more about the Society for Oncology Massage (S4OM) visit http://www.s4om.orgFollow S4OM on your favorite social media platforms!Facebook: Society for Oncology Massage (S4OM) | Auburn ME (facebook.com)Instagram: Society for Oncology Massage (@s4om_org) • Instagram photos and videosTwitter: S4OM_Org (@s4om_org) / TwitterLinkedIn: Society for Oncology Massage | LinkedIn
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  • Ep. 17 -Enhancing Post-Breast Reconstruction Outcomes with Manual Lymphatic Drainage with Kathleen Lisson, LMT, CLT
    In this episode of 'Collaborative Connections,' hosted by Ericka Clinton and sponsored by the Society for Oncology Massage and the Society for Oncology Esthetics, massage therapist and educator Kathleen Leeson returns to discuss breast reconstruction surgery. Kathleen, a certified lymphedema therapist, health coach, and yoga instructor, shares her expertise on different types of breast reconstruction surgeries, particularly diep flap and implant-based methods. She discusses the physical and emotional aspects of post-surgery recovery, including the importance of lymphatic drainage and scar management. Kathleen also addresses the disparities in access to breast reconstruction and offers practical advice for clients dealing with surgical scars and chronic pain. Topics Discussed: Flap-Based Reconstruction Surgery Diep Flap Surgery Details Post-Operative Lymphatic Drainage Surgeon Referral Importance Swelling Management Techniques Compression Garment Strategies Managing Recovery Expectations Use of Liposuction Post-Surgery Concerns Managing Scar Pain Timestamps00:00 Introduction and Welcome 02:07 Breast Reconstruction Surgery Overview 03:12 Deep Flap Surgery Details 08:03 Implant-Based Reconstruction and Fat Grafting 11:30 Advocating for Better Outcomes 12:13 Advances in Oncology and Fat Grafting 13:03 Equity in Breast Reconstruction 14:16 Innovations in Surgical Techniques 16:19 Capsular Contracture and Pain Management 19:24 Liposuction and Fat Transfer 27:38 Lymphatic Drainage and Healing 33:04 Scar Management and Emotional Healing More About Kathleen Lisson, LMT, CLT Sign up for Kathleen’s Free CE class: https://plasticsurgeryrecoverymassage.teachable.com/p/manual-lymphatic-drainage-more-than-edema-reduction Follow Kathleen on Instagram: @stressreductionforlymphedema Learn more about Kathleen on her website: http://kathleenhelenlisson.com/ Kathleen Helen Lisson is board certified in therapeutic massage and bodywork and is a Certified Lymphedema Therapist. She helps clients with lymphedema and lipedema as well as clients who have had plastic surgery and reconstructive surgery after cancer. She has spoken at the American Vein and Lymphatic Society, Fat Disorders Resource Society, International Society of Lymphology, MLD UK, National Lymphedema Network and Society for Oncology Massage conferences. Kathleen’s writing focuses on providing education resources for her clients with lymphedema and lipedema and her fellow Lymphedema Therapists. She is the author of Swollen, Bloated and Puffy, Lipedema Treatment Guide, Plastic Surgery Recovery Handbook, Southern California Plastic Surgery Cookbook, Mindful Strategies for Adults with Adverse Childhood Experiences and Stress Reduction for Lymphedema. She is a coauthor of the Standard of Care for Lipedema in the United States, which was funded by a grant from the National Institutes of Health National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute (NHLBI) and published in the journal Phlebology. While not working, Kathleen enjoys historical fiction, running and yoga. She lives with her husband Arun and their dog in San Diego, CA. To learn more about the Society for Oncology Massage (S4OM) visit http://www.s4om.orgFollow S4OM on your favorite social media platforms!Facebook: Society for Oncology Massage (S4OM) | Auburn ME (facebook.com)Instagram: Society for Oncology Massage (@s4om_org) • Instagram photos and videosTwitter: S4OM_Org (@s4om_org) / TwitterLinkedIn: Society for Oncology Massage | LinkedIn
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  • Ep. 16 - Effective Collaboration in Cancer Care with Janet Penny & Rebecca Sturgeon
    In this episode of 'Collaborative Connections,' hosted by Clinton, registered massage therapist Janet Penny and curriculum specialist Rebecca Sturgeon explore their collaborative journey in writing 'Oncology Massage - An Integrative Approach to Cancer Care.' They discuss the inspiration behind their partnership, the challenges of compiling a comprehensive guide, and the balance between research and writing.The conversation highlights key chapters such as the intake and therapeutic relationship, and emphasizes the role of community support, personal growth, and the aim to enrich the field of oncology massage. Penny and Sturgeon hope their work inspires others and integrates oncology massage into broader healthcare practices.Topics discussed: Effective Collaboration in Cancer CareGrowing oncology massage awarenessChallenges and breakthroughs in writingMore About Janet PennyVisit Janet's websiteJanet Penny is a registered massage therapist in Ottawa, Canada. Her massage practice focus on people affected by cancer provides the challenges and inspiration that create deeply satisfying work. Janet provides S4OM accredited oncology massage training throughout Canada and is the co-author of Oncology Massage: An integrative approach to cancer care. More About Rebecca SturgeonMy clients and I decide together what is important in their session, giving my clients a sense of control that they may have lost. I create and hold a space where my clients are deeply listened to and their wishes honored. At my core, I am a teacher, and sharing knowledge with my clients, their families and other professionals is something I love to do.I have advanced training in oncology massage and manual lymphatic drainage. I am also an oncology massage educator through Healwell (www.healwell.org), and a preferred provider with the Society for Oncology Massage.To learn more about the Society for Oncology Massage (S4OM) visit http://www.s4om.orgFollow S4OM on your favorite social media platforms!Facebook: Society for Oncology Massage (S4OM) | Auburn ME (facebook.com)Instagram: Society for Oncology Massage (@s4om_org) • Instagram photos and videosTwitter: S4OM_Org (@s4om_org) / TwitterLinkedIn: Society for Oncology Massage | LinkedIn
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  • Ep. 15 - Aromatherapy and Lymphatics in Cancer Care with Nicola McGill
    In this episode of 'Collaborative Connections,' hosted by Erica Clinton, aromatherapist Nicola McGill shares her 25-year journey in aromatherapy and oncology massage. Starting her practice in England, Nicola later moved to Boulder, Colorado, where she provides integrative care to oncology patients. She discusses the inspiration behind her career, the significance of aromatherapy and manual lymphatic drainage, and the holistic benefits of essential oils on the human body. Nicola also touches on the importance of sustainability in aromatherapy and provides insights into how essential oils can support lymphatic health. Topics discussed: Training and Skills for Aromatherapy Different Styles of Aromatherapy Aromatherapy in Oncology Care Risks and Safety in Aromatherapy 00:00 Introduction and Welcome 01:14 Meet Nicola McGill: Aromatherapist and Oncology Massage Therapist 02:59 Nicola's Journey into Aromatherapy 07:04 The Holistic Benefits of Aromatherapy 14:41 Sustainability in Aromatherapy 17:24 Nicola's Passion for Lymphatics 21:13 Integrating Aromatherapy with Lymphatic Drainage 26:34 The Chemistry of Aromatherapy 33:09 Conclusion and Final Thoughts More About Nicola McGill, LLSA, LMT, BCTMB, CLT-LANA Learn More about Nicola Nicola McGill, LLSA, LMT, BCTMB, CLT-LANA, has over 25 years of experience in the field of massage and bodywork both in the U.S. and the United Kingdom. She is a graduate of the London School of Aromatherapy and received diplomas in Reflex Touch and Manual Lymphatic Drainage in Professional Practice at Anglia Polytechnic University, U.K. Upon relocating to the U.S., Nicola received extensive training in the field of oncology massage under the instruction of Gayle MacDonald. In 2010, Nicola received her Lymphedema Therapy Certification through Klose Training and Consulting. She specializes in treating patients with Breast Cancer, Head and Neck Lymphedema. In her clinical practice, Nicola utilizes her bodywork skills as an aromatherapist and MLD practitioner to treat a wide range of medical conditions. Nicola has been on staff at Boulder Community Hospital (BCH) as an Oncology Massage and Lymphedema Therapist. She promotes education and lymphedema risk-reduction practices at cancer support groups and individual treatment sessions while working alongside the Rocky Mountain Cancer Center (RMCC) and the BCH team of healthcare providers. Nicola is also a team member of the Boulder Cancer Survivorship Program at Avanti Therapy where she provides lymphedema education and restorative and comfort-oriented bodywork treatments for individuals undergoing treatments for a cancer diagnosis and those who have completed their treatment. For the past 10 years, she has been an MLD Instructor with Klose Training and Consulting in Colorado. To learn more about the Society for Oncology Massage (S4OM) visit http://www.s4om.orgFollow S4OM on your favorite social media platforms!Facebook: Society for Oncology Massage (S4OM) | Auburn ME (facebook.com)Instagram: Society for Oncology Massage (@s4om_org) • Instagram photos and videosTwitter: S4OM_Org (@s4om_org) / TwitterLinkedIn: Society for Oncology Massage | LinkedIn
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The Collaborative Connections podcast explores the intersection between massage therapy and cancer care. Whether you're a massage therapist, specializing in cancer care or an oncology massage educator, this podcast is for you.To learn more about the Society for Oncology Massage, visit S4OM.org.
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