For Tech’s Sake

To celebrate our 100th episode, we invited our listeners to watch us in action live, with the return of special guest Dr Abeba Birhane, founder of the pioneering AI Accountability Lab. We had fun with a game of Good Tech, Bad Tech (trademark pending) followed by a meaty discussion with Abeba about the morality of AI, the challenge of being a critic of AI, and how she met the Pope and Shaggy (no, really).

We are so grateful to everyone who came out for this live recording, and also to The Digital Hub, and Dee and Oisin from the Beár Bia podcast for making it all possible.

All proceeds from this event went to Medical Aid for Palestinians. Donate at MAP.org.uk.

*** Good things we recommend ***
>> AI Accountability Lab
>> Biology as Ideology by Richard Lewontin
>> Abeba’s reflections on the censorship of her keynote at the AI for Good Summit 2025
>> Kabakoo Academies, blending high-tech and indigenous knowledge in Mali
>> Duck Duck Go, a Google alternative

*** More from us ***
Kelly’s Substack: kellysrubbish.substack.com
FTS blog: for-techs-sake.ghost.io
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In this episode, Elaine tries to turn Kelly into a subsea cables stan with the help of Jane Ruffino, a PhD candidate who recently visited a ship in the midst of (literally) winding up TAT-8, the world’s first transatlantic fibre-optic cable. Jane enthusiastically shares what we can learn from the subsea cable industry’s ‘minimum necessary technology’ mindset, and why it’s important that the infrastructure and labour that keeps us connected is made visible.

Find Jane on LinkedIn and at CharacterWorks.co.

*** Good things we recommend ***
>> Jane’s superb article in Wired
>> Our podcast episode, The internet under the sea
>> The Undersea Network, a book by Nicole Starosielski
>> Atlantic-Cable.com
>> Derek Cassidy, communication archaeologist
>> Irish artist Fiona Marron
>> Ye Olde Hurdy-Gurdy Museum of Vintage Radio in Howth, Co. Dublin

*** More from us ***
Kelly’s Substack: kellysrubbish.substack.com
FTS blog: for-techs-sake.ghost.io
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This week, Kelly and Elaine are talking about AT, assistive technology, and how we can all have nicer digital experiences because of it. Our expert guides to AT in this episode are Patrick Fitzgerald, an AT user and DigiCoach for others, and Sarah Boland, an AT facilitator and mentor. We find out some fundamentals for designers and developers to make the web more accessible, as well as some tips for ourselves to be more inclusive with what we post online. Will you take on our anti-Lent alt text challenge?

*** Good things we recommend ***
>> St John of God Liffey Services
>> FreedomTech.ie
>> AccessDesign: An inclusive co-design toolkit
>> Osmo
>> For Tech’s Sake Live!

*** More from us ***
Kelly’s Substack: kellysrubbish.substack.com
FTS blog: for-techs-sake.ghost.io
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Pokémon Go collected 30 billion street-level image scans from its players, and now its creators are using that data to help train delivery robots. This prompted Kelly and Elaine to discuss the many ways human labour contributes to AI training, whether we are aware of it or not.

*** Good things we recommend ***
>> Humanitix ticketing
>> Gravity Climbing Centre
>> For Tech’s Sake Live!
>> Svenska Dagbladet’s investigation into Meta’s AI training

*** More from us ***
Kelly’s Substack: kellysrubbish.substack.com
FTS blog: for-techs-sake.ghost.io
FTS TikTok: fortechssakepod
FTS Instagram: fortechssakepod
FTS Bluesky: fortechssakepod.bsky.social
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Today’s episode is a lesson in AI literacy, busting some myths and revealing the strings behind the magic trick (with a smattering of Irish for Seachtain na Gaeilge). Kelly quizzes Elaine on how we can adapt our language to be clearer in communicating what AI is, and we also speak to Prof Aphra Kerr about the award-winning AlgoWatch project and its efforts to boost literacy among young people.

*** Good things we recommend ***
>> AlgoWatch.eu
>> Elaine’s keynote at CESIcon 2026
>> #DiscussAI
>> Age-Friendly AI
>> Switched On

*** More from us ***
Kelly’s Substack: kellysrubbish.substack.com
FTS blog: for-techs-sake.ghost.io
FTS TikTok: fortechssakepod
FTS Instagram: fortechssakepod
FTS Bluesky: fortechssakepod.bsky.social
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