He Said, She Said

This week’s episode is a deeply personal one for Ryan, as he opens up about the experience of watching his grandma live with dementia, and the impact it’s had on him. He shares why it’s something that truly scares him, and reflects on the complicated ways we process change, including his own feelings about wanting to hold onto someone as they once were.

We then get into the topic of sleepovers… when is the “right” age, will Leo be allowed, and what about adult ones? Louise and Ryan have very different views on what happens if Leo brings someone home in the future….

And with Louise deep in her reality TV era thanks to Temptation Island (we get Ryan’s very honest reaction to it), the conversation turns to reality shows more broadly… on whether they have any regrets about their Made in Chelsea days?

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Louise and Ryan head to UK Parliament to back the call for a maternity commissioner, with Louise sharing why this fight is so deeply personal. She opens up about her own experience of giving birth and the stark reality that care for women in the UK is still falling short, and why change shouldn’t have to come at the cost of tragedy.

Then it pivots. A weekend away sparks a story no one saw coming, with unexpected glimpse into Ryan’s past as butler in the buff 👀. There’s also a chat about The Fury’s and how their approach to parenting might hold up if Leo married young, or started to swear at them.

And finally, a simple question: should you share your location with your partner? Ryan’s a hard no. Louise couldn’t disagree more….

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Louise has had a rare few days alone while Ryan and Leo headed off on their first father–son trip. Ryan reflects on what that one-on-one time meant to him, while Louise opens up about something many mums don’t say out loud: that she enjoyed the space, and why she refuses to feel guilt for needing time to herself.

That honesty leads into a bigger conversation. Inspired by Emma Grede describing herself as a “three-hour mum”, we unpack the pressure around modern motherhood. How much time is “enough” with your kids, what’s expectation versus reality, and how our own experiences shape the kind of parents we want to be.

We also share a major surrogacy update. It’s a big step forward, and one that brings a mix of hope, nerves, and the weight of everything starting to feel very real. And to close, we answer a listener question about how we navigated our darkest moments together and what it really took to come out the other side.

00:00 Introduction
01:50 Our double date weekend away
03:26 Our driving habits
07:22 Sam forgot to book a hotel room!
15:32 Ryan first trip alone with Leo
19:48 Ryan's Vision of Fatherhood
28:28 Louise's Solo Time away from Leo
34:03 No Mum Guilt in Taking Time Off
37:39 Emma Grede ‘Three Hour Mom’ Controversy
41:34 Sacrifices and Adaptability in Parenting
43:43 Our BIG Surrogacy Update
52:37 Listener Question: Keeping the Spark Alive Through Trauma
58:51 See you next week!

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Louise and Ryan kick things off with a simple question, would they want a boy or a girl next? But their answers reveal something deeper, opening up a conversation about the quiet fears of parenting in a world shaped by the manosphere and everything kids are exposed to online.

That leads into screen time, boundaries, and the looming question every parent faces… what happens when your child asks for a phone? Their take might surprise you...

Plus, Louise shares why she chose to go sober, and a listener question about surrogacy uncovers something unexpected… was Ryan always sure he wanted kids?

00:00 Intro
00:40 Leo's Challenging Behavior Phase
10:53 What Will Leo Be Like When He Grows Up?
12:00 Do we want a boy or girl next?
12:55 The Manosphere and Raising Respectful Men
17:29 The Fear of Having a daughter
20:26 When Will Leo Get a Phone?
22:55 Screen Time and Parenting Challenges
48:02 Louise's Sobriety Journey
1:00:20 Ryan originally didn't want children
1:02:17 Looking Ahead in our surrogacy journey

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It’s a full Thompson takeover this week, with Sam and mum Karen joining Louise.

We get into teenage Louise… and it’s more chaotic than anyone remembers. This sparks a few long-overdue apologies from Louise, and some honesty about their family dynamic now. But it doesn’t stop there. Louise has something she’s been holding onto, and it opens up a conversation they’ve never had before as she asks for an apology of her own...

We also had to talk Made in Chelsea… with Karen’s reaction to them joining, plus her take on one of their most heated arguments. And of course, your questions: Sam as an uncle, the “favourite child” debate, and Sam as an uncle...Is he as good as Louise expected?

00:00 Team Thompson Episode Begins
02:02 Did Sam know he would be Louise's boss?
03:45 Sam’s university rejection story
08:56 Who was the better behaved child?
10:00 Sam reveals how Louise was as a teenager
16:00 Louise apologises to Sam and Karen
22:13 Sam’s apology to Louise never talked about before
30:00 How real is Made in Chelsea?
32:25 Karen watches MAFS!
33:10 Karen’s views on Sam and Louise joining MIC
35:35 Watching Sam and Louise’s most heated MIC clip
39:15 Reflections on doing reality TV
42:00 Surprise from Karen leaves her in tears…
43:30 How Sam’s neurodivergence affects his dating life
47:35 Who is the favourite child?
48:25 Louise’s opinion on Sam’s glow-up
52:42 Who fancies Pete more?
55:15 Is Sam as good an uncle as Louise thought?
59:00 The Karen debate!

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