Mamamia Out Loud

It’s Harry and Meghan week in Australia, and we’re hoping for some big news in Jam World. A lot has changed since the last time they were here and Clare Stephens waited outside the Opera House to touch Prince Harry’s hand. So what can we expect from the royal-not-royal tour?
Bieberchella has broken the internet and healed a lot of Millennial hearts. Between a $10 million pay check and a setlist that involved Justin dueting with his childhood self, Em Vernem is asking: Is this a profound moment of healing, or just a very expensive therapy session we were all forced to watch?
In other business, Melania Trump decided that this chaotic moment in world affairs was the right moment to make an unprompted address about her "friendship" with Jeffrey Epstein.
And Lena Dunham is releasing a memoir reflecting on fast fame. Her honesty about what peak spotlight did to her coupled with one of the world’s most profitable writers finally revealing her identity, Holly Wainwright is asking: If you could make the art and the money without the fame, why on earth would you choose to be known?
Oh, and as the Federal Government launches a campaign telling us all to do our bit for a potential fuel crisis, are you guilty of pantry-maxxing?
What To Listen To Next:
Listen to the Out Loud episode Holly mentions where they talk abotu Lena Denham here: Are We Done Being Bitchy About Lena Dunham?

Listen to our latest episode: 'The Chatbot History That Ruined My Relationship’

Listen: The Hollywood Star Who Hates Everyone
Listen: The One Number That Says Absolutely Everything About You
Listen: A Lil' Treat: Jessie’s Ready To Tell Her Twin Birth Story
Listen: The Co-stars Refusing To Fake It & The Hell Of Organised Fun
Listen: Ghost Stories, Celebrity Facelifts & The Real iPad Babies
Listen: Mia's Babble: The Very Best Bit About Bum Checks
Listen: The Great Petrol Panic & Royal Reality TV Rumours
Listen: Polyamory, Cheating & The Marriage No One Wants To Believe
Listen: An Unhinged List Of Rules No One Asked For
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Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.
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What to read:
Before you criticise Justin Bieber's Coachella performance, here's the point everyone's missing.
Did you grow up in a 'communal towel' or 'dictator towel' family? It says a lot about you.
A brutally honest review of Lena Dunham's new Netflix rom-com Too Much.
HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: The one number that says absolutely everything about you.
'The "blurred lip" trend is everywhere. But I'm going to say what no one else will.'
THE END BITS:
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CREDITS:
Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens & Emily Vernem
Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine
Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock
Video Producer: Josh Green
Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz
Social Producer: Gemma Donohoe
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.
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You click on a link on your partner’s computer and all their unspoken doubts unspool: You have too many cats. You’re ‘fragile’. And then there’s that 'attraction problem'. This is what happened in the viral story we’re unpacking from writer Lindsey Hall about reading her boyfriend’s ChatGPT thread. So, asks Clare, who betrayed who here? And what would you have done?
Also, is having a 'Signature' everything — from a drink to a restaurant to a gift to an outfit — a genius life hack, or just an excuse for us lazy girls?"
Plus, science has apparently discovered the exact dance moves that make a man 'sexy' to women, and Hamish & Andy have been putting it to the test. While an avatar might have the moves, Holly insists no man is actually a good dancer unless he’s Harry Styles or Bad Bunny.
And, Em tells us about the lipstick we’re all meant to be wearing right now, and, crucially, where we should put it.
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Recommendations
Em: Wants you to go and see The Drama at the cinema — a 'grey area' film starring Zendaya and Robert Pattinson.
Clare: The Off Duty podcast (Season 5), specifically the 'Birth Keepers' investigation into the 'Free Birth Society' and the dangers of medical misinformation.
Holly: The book The Hiding Place by Kate Mildenhall, plus the return of Last One Laughing UK on Amazon Prime.
What To Listen To Next:
Listen to our latest episode: The Hollywood Star Who Hates Everyone
Listen: The One Number That Says Absolutely Everything About You
Listen: A Lil' Treat: Jessie’s Ready To Tell Her Twin Birth Story
Listen: The Co-stars Refusing To Fake It & The Hell Of Organised Fun
Listen: Ghost Stories, Celebrity Facelifts & The Real iPad Babies
Listen: Mia's Babble: The Very Best Bit About Bum Checks
Listen: The Great Petrol Panic & Royal Reality TV Rumours
Listen: Polyamory, Cheating & The Marriage No One Wants To Believe
Listen: An Unhinged List Of Rules No One Asked For
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts
Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.
SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media
You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to watch.

Mamamia Out Loud on Apple
What to read:
'I thought my daughter and I were close. Then I found out who she was really opening up to.'
HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: The one number that says absolutely everything about you.
'The "blurred lip" trend is everywhere. But I'm going to say what no one else will.'
'5 things I've bought (and worn on repeat) as a fashion editor on a budget.'
'One moment during the Super Bowl halftime show brought me to tears.'
THE END BITS:
Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com
GET IN TOUCH:
Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]
Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.
Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.
Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud
CREDITS:
Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens & Emily Vernem
Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine
Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock
Video Producer: Josh Green
Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz
Social Producer: Gemma Donohoe
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.
Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Will it be on June 13? Are the people already camping out at a particular Rhode Island resort? Will we even SEE any photos, or will they do a Tom-and-Zendaya? Yes, the Taylor Swift-Travis Kelce wedding frenzy is building and Clare Stephens is sifting through the data to decide whether anyone, at all, knows what they’re talking about.
Meanwhile, Donald Trump is back to saying things that make us want to hide under our beds, but Amelia Lester’s found the perfect antidote to the chaos: 'Competency porn'. Whether it's the awe-inducing precision of the Artemis II astronauts or a nurse who is really, really good at their job, there is nothing more comforting right now than watching someone be genuinely competent at what they do. We’re asking: When the world feels like a dumpster fire, is watching collective brilliance the way to stay sane?
Also, Succession star Brian Cox spent his weekend unloading some very unfiltered (and very unflattering) opinions on everyone from Margot Robbie to Johnny Depp. Holly Wainwright noticed that while Brian is being celebrated for his 'tell-it-like-it-is' attitude, women just… don’t do it.
In other business, we're diving into the 'chicken ick'. That sudden, soul-crushing moment where you can no longer look at a poultry breast without gagging.
And finally, Savannah Guthrie, an unimaginable loss and the quiet bravery of going back to work.
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What To Listen To Next:
Listen to our latest episode: Mia & Anne Stephens: A Nana Leaderboard
Listen: Even More Random Things We Deem Offensive
Listen: The One Number That Says Absolutely Everything About You
Listen: The Worst Person You Know Just Made A Good Point
Listen: The Co-stars Refusing To Fake It & The Hell Of Organised Fun
Listen: The 7 Controversies Of This Year's Biggest Movie
Listen: The Three Questions You Should Ask On A First Date
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts
Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.
You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to watch.

Mamamia Out Loud on Apple
What to read:
All the Taylor Swift wedding rumours, ranked from likely to absolutely not
The one thing that makes Taylor Swift's new music video unlike anything she's done before.
Okay, someone needs to do a welfare check on Dr Robby.
HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: The one number that says absolutely everything about you.
THE END BITS:
Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com
GET IN TOUCH:
Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]
Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.
Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.
Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.
Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Outlouders. Since today isn't a regular kind of Monday, we’re dropping a little treat into your feed. Remember our 'Entirely Random List of Things We Deem Offensive'? Well, you loved it so much that we simply had to do part two.
Before Jessie Stephens headed off to have her twins, she sat down with Holly Wainwright and Claire Murphy to air out a fresh batch of petty grievances and 'no-justification-needed' things we find offensive.
From people who load their groceries onto the conveyor belt prematurely to aggressively long acrylic nails and GPS directions that tell you to 'head northeast', we are officially offended.
Plus, Jessie draws a line in the sand about 'fish that doesn't taste fishy' and Holly unpacks the one hill she will die on: avocado should never, ever be hot.
Join the conversation in the Outlouders Facebook group and let us know the one specific thing that you find just plain rude.
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What To Listen To Next:
Listen to: An Entirely Random List Of Things We Deem Offensive
Listen to our latest episode: The One Number That Says Absolutely Everything About You
Listen: Mia’s Babble: The Questions YOU Want Answered
Listen: The Worst Person You Know Just Made A Good Point
Listen: Love Story Part 3: The ‘Prince’ Problem & That Plane Scene
Listen: The Co-stars Refusing To Fake It & The Hell Of Organised Fun
Listen: Ghost Stories, Celebrity Facelifts & The Real iPad Babies
Listen: Mia's Babble: The Very Best Bit About Bum Checks
Listen: The Great Petrol Panic & Royal Reality TV Rumours
Listen: Three Very Different Opinions On Lindy West’s Throuple
Listen: Polyamory, Cheating & The Marriage No One Wants To Believe
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts
Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.
SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media
You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see
Mamamia Out Loud on Apple
What to read:
'Protect your peace' culture has failed us all.
Forget monsters. Manchildren have officially become the villains of 2025.
Taylor and Ashley were best friends for 13 years. It all went wrong when they trusted a psychic.
Things I Deem Offensive
THE END BITS:
Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com
GET IN TOUCH:
Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]
Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.
Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.
Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

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Yes, it’s Good Friday but we’re being bad and bringing you a show anyway. First point of business is Clare Stephens’ elitist Easter egg power ranking Do you agree with her controversial Number One?
Plus, we’re deep-diving into the Enneagram personality type obsession currently ruining our lives. It seems every A-lister and podcaster is sharing their 'number', so hold our beer. Holly is grumpy about being a 'Peacemaker' 9, Clare is proudly an 'Investigator' 5, and Emily Vernem is a Type 3 Achiever — which apparently means she’s one bad day away from becoming a psychopath. But are Enneagrams just star signs for the self-optimisation era?
Also, Em has a very strict list of things you must never do in the hour before a date (hint: checking social media is a dopamine-killing trap). From 'gambling with dairy' to the peril of last-minute eyebrow tints, we’re sharing chaotic pre-date disasters.
And, we’re asking the very important question: What would you queue for?
To find out your Enneagram, take the test here; https://www.eclecticenergies.com/enneagram/test
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Recommendations
Em recommends Young Sherlock on Prime Video.
Clare recommends The Gambler: A Vince Reid PI Thriller by J.P. Pomare.
Holly recommends The Nocturnals by Frances Whiting.
What To Listen To Next:
Listen to our latest episode: Mia’s Babble: The Questions YOU Want Answered
Listen: The Worst Person You Know Just Made A Good Point
Listen: Love Story Part 3: The ‘Prince’ Problem & That Plane Scene
Listen: The Co-stars Refusing To Fake It & The Hell Of Organised Fun
Listen: Ghost Stories, Celebrity Facelifts & The Real iPad Babies
Listen: Mia's Babble: The Very Best Bit About Bum Checks
Listen: The Great Petrol Panic & Royal Reality TV Rumours
Listen: Three Very Different Opinions On Lindy West’s Throuple
Listen: Polyamory, Cheating & The Marriage No One Wants To Believe
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts
Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.
SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media
You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see
Mamamia Out Loud on Apple
What to read:
Why everyone suddenly wants to know their Enneagram personality number.
From Helper to Loyalist: Your reaction to this simple scenario determines your parenting style.
'These 6 first-date rules shouldn't be controversial, but apparently are.'
A definitive ranking of mini Easter eggs from bloody incredible to downright disgusting.
THE END BITS:
Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com
GET IN TOUCH:
Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]
Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.
Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.
Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud
CREDITS:
Hosts: Emily Vernem, Clare Stephens & Holly Wainwright
Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine
Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock
Video Producer: Josh Green
Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.
Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.