Mamamia Out Loud

Yes, it’s Good Friday but we’re being bad and bringing you a show anyway. First point of business is Clare Stephens’ elitist Easter egg power ranking Do you agree with her controversial Number One?
Plus, we’re deep-diving into the Enneagram personality type obsession currently ruining our lives. It seems every A-lister and podcaster is sharing their 'number', so hold our beer. Holly is grumpy about being a 'Peacemaker' 9, Clare is proudly an 'Investigator' 5, and Emily Vernem is a Type 3 Achiever — which apparently means she’s one bad day away from becoming a psychopath. But are Enneagrams just star signs for the self-optimisation era?
Also, Em has a very strict list of things you must never do in the hour before a date (hint: checking social media is a dopamine-killing trap). From 'gambling with dairy' to the peril of last-minute eyebrow tints, we’re sharing chaotic pre-date disasters.
And, we’re asking the very important question: What would you queue for?
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Recommendations
Em recommends Young Sherlock on Prime Video.
Clare recommends The Gambler: A Vince Reid PI Thriller by J.P. Pomare.
Holly recommends The Nocturnals by Frances Whiting.
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Listen: The Worst Person You Know Just Made A Good Point
Listen: Love Story Part 3: The ‘Prince’ Problem & That Plane Scene
Listen: The Co-stars Refusing To Fake It & The Hell Of Organised Fun
Listen: Ghost Stories, Celebrity Facelifts & The Real iPad Babies
Listen: Mia's Babble: The Very Best Bit About Bum Checks
Listen: The Great Petrol Panic & Royal Reality TV Rumours
Listen: Three Very Different Opinions On Lindy West’s Throuple
Listen: Polyamory, Cheating & The Marriage No One Wants To Believe
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What to read:
Why everyone suddenly wants to know their Enneagram personality number.
From Helper to Loyalist: Your reaction to this simple scenario determines your parenting style.
'These 6 first-date rules shouldn't be controversial, but apparently are.'
A definitive ranking of mini Easter eggs from bloody incredible to downright disgusting.
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CREDITS:
Hosts: Emily Vernem, Clare Stephens & Holly Wainwright
Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine
Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock
Video Producer: Josh Green
Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz
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An Instagram post asked working mothers for their tips on juggling, and the comments section rebelled. Which is proof that in the last week of a school term, with the holiday/work pressure building, we are not in the mood for helpful hacks, we are in the mood for burning the whole thing down. So, how and why and when did the 'how do you do it all?' bubble burst?
Plus, Amelia Lester is here to help us pick through the chaos of Washington for anything that looks like a golden glimmer in a pile of poo. And some of the optimism is coming from some very unexpected corners. So, we’re unpacking: what happens when the 'worst person you know' actually makes a great point?
And in other business, butter. Just lots and lots of it. From 'butter-dipped' soft serves at the Royal Easter Show to parents on TikTok feeding their kids whole sticks of the stuff for 'brain fuel', it’s being hailed as the new superfood. So, is butter the new avocado?
Oh, and, the clitoris has finally been mapped, but will that make it any easier for some to find? And Kris Jenner is the latest manifesting good luck symbol for an ambitious generation. Yup. You read that right.
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What To Listen To Next:
Listen to our latest episode: Love Story Part 3: The ‘Prince’ Problem & That Plane Scene
Listen: The Co-stars Refusing To Fake It & The Hell Of Organised Fun
Listen: Ghost Stories, Celebrity Facelifts & The Real iPad Babies
Listen: Mia's Babble: The Very Best Bit About Bum Checks
Listen: The Great Petrol Panic & Royal Reality TV Rumours
Listen: Three Very Different Opinions On Lindy West’s Throuple
Listen: Polyamory, Cheating & The Marriage No One Wants To Believe
Listen: An Unhinged List Of Rules No One Asked For
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What to read:
The most terrifying part of all of this.
A 5-minute explainer on what's happening in Iran.
Every secret scandal the Kardashians have been trying to keep under wraps.
'These Easter hosting hacks are doing all the heavy lifting for me.'
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Zendaya and Robert Pattinson are on a press tour, and the Internet’s calling them ‘classy’ because they’re not pretending to be in lust. Instead, they’re giving each other high-fives like they’re at a corporate seminar. Have we just witnessed the death of the 'fauxmance'?
Plus, in the US, a 20-year-old woman has won a landmark case against YouTube and Meta. She accused the tech billionaires of 'engineering addiction' and ruining her childhood in the process. Their punishment is negligible, so why is this moment being called social media’s ‘Big Tobacco’ moment? And is it a reason for Australia to feel smug about our child social media ban?
In other business, a new biography of Queen Elizabeth II is shattering the 'cuddly grandma' illusion. Why are we so obsessed with minimising the most powerful women in history into just 'nice old ladies'?
Also, anyone want to go to the Evil Ex-Situationship Boxing Rave? Welcome to the particular hell of organised fun.
And Emily, Holly, and Clare discuss the Boomer Hospital reveal. Otherwise known as why your mum waits until five minutes into the phone call to tell you dad’s in the ER.
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What To Listen To Next:
Listen to our latest episode: Ghost Stories, Celebrity Facelifts & The Real iPad Babies
Listen: Mia's Babble: The Very Best Bit About Bum Checks
Listen: The Great Petrol Panic & Royal Reality TV Rumours
Listen: Three Very Different Opinions On Lindy West’s Throuple
Listen: Polyamory, Cheating & The Marriage No One Wants To Believe
Listen: An Unhinged List Of Rules No One Asked For
Listen: Mia's Diary Note: Burnout & Bras & Books, Oh My!
Listen: A Dangerous Influencer Trend & Scurrilous Lip-Reading Gossip
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What to read:
All the lies Robert Pattinson has ever told.
Queen Elizabeth II has died. Her passing marks the end of an extraordinary era.
Fellow Millenials, enough with the 'OK Boomer', already. It's embarrassing.
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We’re following The Washington Post and asking the question Clare Stephens has been quietly pondering for a while: Are boomers the real iPad babies?
Plus, it’s been celebrity facelift week on social media and it’s unclear if actress Denise Richards is being celebrated as a person or an old church in the spon-con post telling us about her “restoration”. Holly wants to know if being open about your facelift is the new vulnerability, or are we just applauding the erasure of a life well-lived?
And, if you’re tired of the "How are you?" and "What are you doing?" cycle of boring small talk, Em has some very specific (and slightly unhinged) alternatives. From questioning how many pigeons it would take in your house before you suspected a conspiracy, to identifying which kitchen utensil you feel most connected to, the woman has you covered.
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Recommendations
Em recommends Deadloch Season 2 on prime.
Clare recommends the blog Wait But Why by Tim Urban, specifically, 10 Thoughts from the Fourth Trimester
Holly recommends the Good Hang with Viola Davis & specifically Julius
What To Listen To Next:
Listen to our latest episode: Mia's Babble: The Very Best Bit About Bum Checks
Listen: The Great Petrol Panic & Royal Reality TV Rumours
Listen: Three Very Different Opinions On Lindy West’s Throuple
Listen: Polyamory, Cheating & The Marriage No One Wants To Believe
Listen: An Unhinged List Of Rules No One Asked For
Listen: Mia's Diary Note: Burnout & Bras & Books, Oh My!
Listen: A Dangerous Influencer Trend & Scurrilous Lip-Reading Gossip
Listen: 'Are Flaps In Or Out?' Mia's Rogue Oscars Fashion Feedback
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Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.
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What to read:
Two famous women just told us what they did to their faces. Somehow, it's still not enough.
The uncomfortable truth about the reaction to Anne Hathaway's 'new face'.
We finally love Anne Hathaway again, she only had to change everything about herself.
'I thought I was bad at small talk. Turns out, I was doing it wrong.'
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CREDITS:
Hosts: Emily Vernem, Clare Stephens & Holly Wainwright
Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine
Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock
Audio Producer: Leah Porges
Video Producer: Josh Green
Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.
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It’s all anyone’s talking about: petrol. How much it’s costing, how much there is to go around and how much worse are things going to get? Is the panic caused by this consequence of war in the Middle East warranted, considering the humanitarian crisis unfolding at the same time? And how do we keep our cool, particularly those of us in regional areas where public transport is a myth?
Plus, Sarah Ferguson has been caught up in a controversy that is, frankly, bizarre even for the royals: she’s been approached to clone and sell Queen Elizabeth's corgis for a reality TV show. Is cloning the late Queen’s pets the ultimate side hustle or a bridge too far?
In other business, noughties fashion icon Rachel Zoe is back in the algorithm, and she’s hard launching her 'divorce era' on The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Is the 'Hot Divorcee' trope actually the most empowering thing on TV right now?
And, we remember Married At First Sight expert Mel Schilling, who has passed away at 54. Her 'Why Not?' attitude and her work raising awareness of colon cancer is a legacy we’re holding close today. As Mel was passionate about telling busy women: If something doesn't feel right, please, get it checked out.
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What To Listen To Next:
Listen to the Quicky explainer: Tributes For MAFS Expert Mel Schilling & Explained: Petrol, Panic Buying & Price Pressure
Listen to our latest episode: Three Very Different Opinions On Lindy West’s Throuple
Listen: Polyamory, Cheating & The Marriage No One Wants To Believe
Listen: An Unhinged List Of Rules No One Asked For
Listen: Mia's Diary Note: Burnout & Bras & Books, Oh My!
Listen: A Dangerous Influencer Trend & Scurrilous Lip-Reading Gossip
Listen: 'Are Flaps In Or Out?' Mia's Rogue Oscars Fashion Feedback
Listen: A Very Awkward Oscars & That Manosphere Doco
Listen: What We Did Before 9am
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What to read:
We need to discuss Fergie and the alleged 'corgi cloning'.
Beloved MAFS expert, Mel Schilling, has died aged 54.
Meghan Markle is coming to Australia. And so, it seems, is her jam.
Rachel Zoe became one of the most famous faces in fashion. This is what her life looks like now.
'At 51, I know one thing. You aren't meant to be with one person for the rest of your life.'
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